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Old 03-20-2018, 07:45 PM
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Found this on my internet searches:

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Thank you for this. This is a very easy method to disable ESS that doesn't seem to have any drawbacks. This will be the first thing I do if I ever get a JL.

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Thanks for posting this video. When I watched it the other day I decided that I'd rather push the button than have the annoying dash lights. Unconnected connectors that aren't well protected have a tendency to get corroded or gunked up.
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I also found information online that if you have the towing package and have something plugged in to the 7-pin connector, the computer thinks your are towing something and this is disabled. This would be the route I would take before disconnecting harnesses, sensors.
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I also found information online that if you have the towing package and have something plugged in to the 7-pin connector, the computer thinks your are towing something and this is disabled. This would be the route I would take before disconnecting harnesses, sensors.
this would work then:

https://www.amazon.ca/MaxxHaul-70429...ch+brake+light

I have that and i find it handy for all the low civics looking at their phones....
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I also found information online that if you have the towing package and have something plugged in to the 7-pin connector, the computer thinks your are towing something and this is disabled. This would be the route I would take before disconnecting harnesses, sensors.
Does being in "tow mode" affect any other systems?
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Does being in "tow mode" affect any other systems?
Tow mode often doesn't allow the vehicle to go into OD, and in some cases changes the shift points of the transmission [higher rpms].
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I also found information online that if you have the towing package and have something plugged in to the 7-pin connector, the computer thinks your are towing something and this is disabled. This would be the route I would take before disconnecting harnesses, sensors.

No, this does not disable the ESS on a JLU/JL.
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No, this does not disable the ESS on a JLU/JL.
Are you sure about this? I saw it on the internet so it has to be true, non?
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It turns off with a button....easy peasy. No reason to modify anything.
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It turns off with a button....easy peasy. No reason to modify anything.
If it stayed off when pressed instead of resetting every time you get in, I would be ok. I forgot to press it yesterday, was trying to pull out of a parking lot and didnít noticed it had kicked in and shut off the motor. When I went to pull out into traffic, the lag for the starter to start the motor back up for me was unacceptable. I didnít hammer down on the gas or anything, but that little bit of delay isnít something I want to worry about or have to deal with.

In the end, yes Iím trying to retrain my habits to turn it off every time I get in, but I will be working on a more permanent solution that doesnít require disconnecting anything or that could negatively impact any other systems.
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If it stayed off when pressed instead of resetting every time you get in, I would be ok. I forgot to press it yesterday, was trying to pull out of a parking lot and didnít noticed it had kicked in and shut off the motor. When I went to pull out into traffic, the lag for the starter to start the motor back up for me was unacceptable. I didnít hammer down on the gas or anything, but that little bit of delay isnít something I want to worry about or have to deal with.

In the end, yes Iím trying to retrain my habits to turn it off every time I get in, but I will be working on a more permanent solution that doesnít require disconnecting anything or that could negatively impact any other systems.
I agree. It is something I would want to disable until I pushed a button or unplugged a dongle to turn it back on, not having to turn it off every time I start the vehicle to drive. The extra 10 cents a week it might save in gas isn't worth it to me.
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Are you sure about this? I saw it on the internet so it has to be true, non?
Yes, I'm 100% absolutely sure.

I also know the JL/JLU has 2, 12v batteries. The smaller of the two is related to the ESS. I know the location of the ESS battery and I know how to trickel charge it. I also know if you disconnect the main battery the ESS battery has the ability / and is able to start the vehicle.
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If it stayed off when pressed instead of resetting every time you get in, I would be ok. I forgot to press it yesterday, was trying to pull out of a parking lot and didnít noticed it had kicked in and shut off the motor. When I went to pull out into traffic, the lag for the starter to start the motor back up for me was unacceptable. I didnít hammer down on the gas or anything, but that little bit of delay isnít something I want to worry about or have to deal with.

In the end, yes Iím trying to retrain my habits to turn it off every time I get in, but I will be working on a more permanent solution that doesnít require disconnecting anything or that could negatively impact any other systems.
Understood...

I guess it just hasnt been an issue for me or the wife. Its second nature...I hit the start button and then hit the button to turn the autostop off by habit.

I am shocked to hear its slow to start the engine...on our BMWs it starts faster than I can get my foot from the brake to the accelerator. Even so, call me old school but I still dont like it.

Anyway, best of luck on finding a permanent solution.
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Understood...



I guess it just hasnt been an issue for me or the wife. Its second nature...I hit the start button and then hit the button to turn the autostop off by habit.



I am shocked to hear its slow to start the engine...on our BMWs it starts faster than I can get my foot from the brake to the accelerator. Even so, call me old school but I still dont like it.



Anyway, best of luck on finding a permanent solution.


I was surprised by the delay as well. Itís not THAT bad, but still noticeable for me. Iíve spent a lot of time over the past few years in the EU and grew quite accustomed to ESS, since it was in every single rental I got.

Iím still training myself to make it part of my routine, just in case a non-intrusive fix takes longer to come up with. So far, that one small thing hasnít even come close to bothering me that much with the huge list of other things that I absolutely love about my JL.
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I wonder when Flash Cal will have a programmer. I would assume it would be a feature included with the pro version. Will need one for bigger tires and or gears anyway.
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I was at Easter Jeep Safari this week. Dozens of JLs, both 2 and 4 doors. Most had the ESS disabled via a hack with a small module in the ODB port. The module also changed shift points, adjusted for tire size, etc The few folks I talked to said it was readily available on the interweb but did not seem to come from one of our main vendors. On a side note, the JLs were tearing up the trails like no ones business, tackling the hard stuff and making it look easy. Most on 35s keeping up with the 37s & 40s. Very impressive.
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I just did the secondary hood pin deal as described in the vid and it has been fine for over a week..
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I keep forgetting to turn it off. Every first stop it would cut off... oops *pushes button*


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There's an aftermarket module made specifically for Chryslers that disables this. Believe these are referenced in some WK2 forums..
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There's an aftermarket module made specifically for Chryslers that disables this. Believe these are referenced in some WK2 forums..

If it plugs into the OBD2 port, I'd have it in my pocket and install it on the dealer's lot before I drove it home. That is exactly what I plan on doing when the time comes.
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I was at Easter Jeep Safari this week. Dozens of JLs, both 2 and 4 doors. Most had the ESS disabled via a hack with a small module in the ODB port. The module also changed shift points, adjusted for tire size, etc The few folks I talked to said it was readily available on the interweb but did not seem to come from one of our main vendors. On a side note, the JLs were tearing up the trails like no ones business, tackling the hard stuff and making it look easy. Most on 35s keeping up with the 37s & 40s. Very impressive.
Modified Sports? Or all Rubicon's?
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Awesome video. Thank you! Just FYI for others, this worked for me, but my switches were opposite. My "number 2" switch (on the right), showed the hood open. Disconnecting the switch on the RIGHT allowed the Stop/Start to be deactivated, but the hood did not show it was open.
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They sell a harness to plug in under the dash to make the computer remember your last settings before you shut the vehicle off. It was 1xx bucks and well well WELL worth it. Vehicle remembers I had the ESS off when I shut my jeep off. When starting it up, the ESS is off. And best of all, easily disconnects if you need to service vehicle. Best mod I did so far!
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They sell a harness to plug in under the dash to make the computer remember your last settings before you shut the vehicle off. It was 1xx bucks and well well WELL worth it. Vehicle remembers I had the ESS off when I shut my jeep off. When starting it up, the ESS is off. And best of all, easily disconnects if you need to service vehicle. Best mod I did so far!

Yes, I have been running with the harness on my Rubi now for months. It works great. Works flawlessly... you forget you even installed it.

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Yes, I have been running with the harness on my Rubi now for months. It works great. Works flawlessly... you forget you even installed it.

Thats the one. I drove my wifes Grand Cherokee yesterday and that ESS crap was on. I hated it soooooo much. So happy I got this harness. So so happy!
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I hate it too, forget about the starter wear and tear, how about your hot oil dropping back down into the pan 100 times a day only to have to be pumped up to the top of the engine at every stop light. Yea i'm sure that's gonna be good for engine life. Chrysler probably gets a big tax break from the government for "saving gas and cutting pollution " and when your engine wears 10 years sooner than normal you can go buy a new Jeep. Win-win for them.
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I bought the tazer jl for my jlu and it not only remembers my ESS choice but allows so many other tweaks. My favorite is the ability to add additional cameras to the vehicle. I am going to add 2 side cameras to the jeep sometime this summer that will allow me full view of the sides of the vehicle when my turn signals are activated. The screens display on the uconnect monitor. I am also contemplating mounting a camera on the front of the jeep to help with front visibility.

Until I get the cameras and mount them I have my backup camera configured to come on when I use my turn signals. It isn't perfect but when my doors are off I have better visibility than without it.
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I bought the tazer jl for my jlu and it not only remembers my ESS choice but allows so many other tweaks. My favorite is the ability to add additional cameras to the vehicle. I am going to add 2 side cameras to the jeep sometime this summer that will allow me full view of the sides of the vehicle when my turn signals are activated. The screens display on the uconnect monitor. I am also contemplating mounting a camera on the front of the jeep to help with front visibility.

Until I get the cameras and mount them I have my backup camera configured to come on when I use my turn signals. It isn't perfect but when my doors are off I have better visibility than without it.

Known issue is that the Tazer JL drops the ball periodically in regard to ESS Disable. Joe at ZAutomotive is aware of this fact but has not been able to tender Tazer JL firmware that gets ESS Disable working correctly. Right now expect to see intermittently, the Tazer JL not disabling ESS on occasion.. It does most of the time but... Hopefully, Joe will get it fixed but he has not been able to for many months now.


For a device that works perfectly 100% of the time in regard to ESS Disable and the JL, do install a Smart Stop Start unit that was mentioned earlier in this thread. Do know that there are guys running both the Smart Stop Start and a Tazer JL, just because the Tazer JL drops the ball ESS disable wise.

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