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Old 09-11-2019, 08:13 AM
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Looking for 1st jeep

Hello from NJ
I have been a lurker toying with the idea of buying.
Now i have some cash and a dream
Iím looking for a second car/ beach vehicle
I will drive it on the beaches of NJ to fish as itís main purpose.
But the wifey would like to drive it with the top off in summer

Any AlanD all advice is welcome

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^^^This will give you a idea, on the years and models. The latest is the new JL's and JT's. Obviously, it will be based on your budget. On the used ones, look over the frames for a possible rust issue.
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Just remember, all good things come in time..
On the used ones, look over the frames for a possible rust issue.
Here's a rust caveat for you:

When I was searching for my Jeep last month, I found MANY at a couple of dealers in the Lithia Group here in Oregon. 95% of them had been procured at auction from Alberta or Saskatchewan and brought to Oregon for sale (probably other places as well).

The salesman at VW of Salem probably told me more than he should (I always appear as a stupid country bumpkin when car dealing). I told him I was surprised to see so many Jeeps there. He told me Lithia was a huge car group and said they had buyers who scour the country for Jeeps. Then as we drove to another lot with more of them, he pointed out this little detail shop, complete with hoist, where he said they "check them over and prepare them for sale".

I was near the end of the purchase process for a beautiful White 2014 Sahara with everything I thought I wanted, at a fair but not great price, and around 50000 miles. I had asked for the Carfax repeatedly through the negotiation (about 4 times), just wanting to verify the condition. I was sold on the car, but I just wanted to "dot my Is and cross my Ts" by seeing the Carfax. He finally brought it up online, and that was where I first learned it had 2 reported accidents AND was from Alberta. I halted the negotiations and went out to check the car closer. I figured a reported accident was likely minor (no airbag deployment noted) and planned to just check closer. But the first thing I did was get down on the ground to check the undercarriage.

That is when I saw solid, NEW undercoating...coating EVERYTHING. Even the entire shocks were fully coated and black. There was one spot, about 1" by 2" where the undercoating was either missed or fell off. RUST. Tons of rust. I said no, I did not want the car at any price. Probably the most telling thing was that the salesman and the sales manager didn't even try to sell me that car or any of their other approximately twenty 2013-2016 Wranglers. It seemed apparent that they were trying to pull a fast one and realized I was now a waste of their time as I was onto them and their hiding rust. Big lessons learned for me.

Since most dealers now have Carfax online, I started checking them for all Jeeps I found, and that's how I learned most were coming into the area from Alberta. I also learned to watch pictures and see that the A/C dials were all in Celsius on the Alberta Jeeps, and of course, the window stickers are Canadian.

Maybe some are fine, but certainly not if the rust is purposely hidden with fresh undercoating. Frankly, I was surprised that a new car dealer would stoop to this with used cars. I found my beautiful, local, one-owner, no rust, regularly serviced and loved Jeep at a small dealership about 65 miles away.

So beware in your search!
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Welcome friend. Former Garden State resident here. We wised up 5 years ago and moved to north Pennsylvania

I'm in the same situation as you, just further up the road.

I don't know whether you're looking for a TJ or YJ or JK, but no matter what pay close attention to what anyone on here will say about rust. You are in the Northeast and clean Wranglers are few and far between around here. You have to be willing to get down on the ground with a flashlight, wire brush, and maybe a little hammer and go all around the frame. Stick your finger inside the frame holes and feel around inside for rust. If the frame is rusted there are ways to fix it but be prepared to lay out a couple thousand on it.

I have been looking for months, have driven hours to see a Jeep, and have climbed under maybe 50 Wranglers. I have seen all sorts of shitty undercoats, rust buckets, and have stumbled onto exactly 2 Jeeps with nice frames, but both had bad bodies and interiors.

So I've given up finding something nice around here. I prefer a TJ to a JK so I was put onto a dealer in Texas who sells clean Texas Jeeps. That's where I'm buying from. Crazy? Sure, and I know it. But I'm putting miles and miles on my Honda running all over the Northeast to see "OMG EXCELLENT CONDITION!!!" Jeeps that are anything but. It's time to end the madness.

Good luck my friend with whatever you do.

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Welcome friend. Former Garden State resident here. We wised up 5 years ago and moved to north Pennsylvania

I'm in the same situation as you, just further up the road.

I don't know whether you're looking for a TJ or YJ or JK, but no matter what pay close attention to what anyone on here will say about rust. You are in the Northeast and clean Wranglers are few and far between around here. You have to be willing to get down on the ground with a flashlight, wire brush, and maybe a little hammer and go all around the frame. Stick your finger inside the frame holes and feel around inside for rust. If the frame is rusted there are ways to fix it but be prepared to lay out a couple thousand on it.

I have been looking for months, have driven hours to see a Jeep, and have climbed under maybe 50 Wranglers. I have seen all sorts of shitty undercoats, rust buckets, and have stumbled onto exactly 2 Jeeps with nice frames, but both had bad bodies and interiors.

So I've given up finding something nice around here. I prefer a TJ to a JK so I was put onto a dealer in Texas who sells clean Texas Jeeps. That's where I'm buying from. Crazy? Sure, and I know it. But I'm putting miles and miles on my Honda running all over the Northeast to see "OMG EXCELLENT CONDITION!!!" Jeeps that are anything but. It's time to end the madness.

Good luck my friend with whatever you do.

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