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Old 07-09-2019, 01:43 PM
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Gladiator 3.0L Ecodiesel

I am holding out for the diesel option, anyone else? I am hoping for more range on a tank of fuel and better fuel economy.

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Finally saw a Gladiator out in the wild with the wife. We are in the market for a new vehicle and she loved it! One stipulation, has to be a diesel, we had a cheater VW and sold it back to VW for a ridiculous deal but want our next vehicle to be a diesel.

Already have a 98 TJ, would love to see two Jeeps in the garage!

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1) They've promised EcoDiesel to the JL guys for 3 model years now, and it's still not on the order sheet. I'm wondering if it'll ever actually happen.
2) Diesel averages $0.50 per gallon more in the U.S. which eats up a lot of the money saved on fuel economy.
3) Diesel is only available at 51% of stations in the U.S. according to AAA, which means that your "range" is actually limited by fear of finding fuel.
4) The upfront cost is going to be thousands of dollars.
5) Maintenance is going to run 100-150% more cost.
6) The track record on this engine is horrendous with cam sprocket failures, CP4 injection pump failures, etc. The new one will have to prove itself.
7) The emissions controls on this new engine are going to be insane and unreliable.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:39 AM
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1) They've promised EcoDiesel to the JL guys for 3 model years now, and it's still not on the order sheet. I'm wondering if it'll ever actually happen. 2) Diesel averages $0.50 per gallon more in the U.S. which eats up a lot of the money saved on fuel economy. 3) Diesel is only available at 51% of stations in the U.S. according to AAA, which means that your "range" is actually limited by fear of finding fuel. 4) The upfront cost is going to be thousands of dollars. 5) Maintenance is going to run 100-150% more cost. 6) The track record on this engine is horrendous with cam sprocket failures, CP4 injection pump failures, etc. The new one will have to prove itself. 7) The emissions controls on this new engine are going to be insane and unreliable.

They are releasing this engine in the Dodge 1500 pickups soon and I will closely follow the reviews and maintenance issues. I know they made a lot of improvements on the engine and I am hoping the Cam sprocket is one of them. I have found no specifics on the improvements yet though.
I’m not worried about diesel fuel availability, there are enough diesel vehicles out there it shouldn’t be a problem.
I don’t plan on necessary saving any money overall (cost of diesel vs has) but having a longer range on a single tank makes trips out to the boonies lower risk.
Overall I figure I have at least a year to see how the new engines perform before the make any JTs with them. I will wait and see at this point.
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I am waiting for it to come out...

I ended up buying a ZR2 Bison Diesel to keep me calm for now... but have to be honest... I will be very tempted to buy a Gladiator Diesel when it comes out. Had it been out it would have been in my driveway already.

Not complaining about the ZR2 Bison, I just like modifying stuff and a Jeep is perfect to keep me busy modding...so many aftermarket parts available for Jeep over what is available for the ZR2...

I am hoping that I can move over the stuff that I am doing in the ZR2... trying to do everything modular and with the ability to remove and move to another vehicle... I am building everything so it fits under the tonneau cover...
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I am waiting for it to come out...

I ended up buying a ZR2 Bison Diesel to keep me calm for now... but have to be honest... I will be very tempted to buy a Gladiator Diesel when it comes out. Had it been out it would have been in my driveway already.

Not complaining about the ZR2 Bison, I just like modifying stuff and a Jeep is perfect to keep me busy modding...so many aftermarket parts available for Jeep over what is available for the ZR2...

I am hoping that I can move over the stuff that I am doing in the ZR2... trying to do everything modular and with the ability to remove and move to another vehicle... I am building everything so it fits under the tonneau cover...
That looks great, I had wondered what everyone would come up with for the bed. I like the Mopar bed storage too, just don’t know how practical it will be long term.
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Yes , in town Diesel is harder to find , but on the road every truck stop has it and the bigger chain gas do too. Stations like Loves and Bruns Bros have the cleanest restrooms, ask my wife, and better food anyway!
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I've owned half a dozen diesels and never worried about getting fuel - including trips to Baja.

I too was planning to get a ZR2 Bison diesel, but I was holding out for a better transmission in the 2020 mid-cycle refresh. When I found out that the main thing being improved in the 2020 model year was a bigger touch screen (woohoo) I opted for a slightly used JKUR to tide me over until Chevy gets their act together. I think the new turbo 4 from the Sliverado would be a good option in the ZR2 if they ever do that.

For me diesels are all about the torque down low. After owning turbo diesel trucks a few times and actually using that torque I know how useful it is. That being said a turbo 4 would be great, too (for the same reasons) and also great in a Jeep (JL or JT) but not that ungodly Italian hybrid Alfa Romeo thing they are using right now..
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I agree with sbsyncro, I owned a 6.2 Diesel 4x4 Suburban, had no problem getting fuel. And with gobs of low end I pulled a Land Cruz up a sandy rock face that he couldn't climb because he forgot to lock his hubs , I motored up to him hooked up and climbed like that little thing wasn't even there. The guys I was with called it the Trash Truck because no matter were I went they could hear me coming....
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Isnít the EcoDiesel thatís going into the Gladiator the same engine thatís been in Dodge trucks for a while now ó the one with horrible reliability and complete failures?


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Isnít the EcoDiesel thatís going into the Gladiator the same engine thatís been in Dodge trucks for a while now ó the one with horrible reliability and complete failures?


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Yes, except this is an updated version with even more potential trouble areas such as "low friction cylinder coating and lightweight pistons" and "dual EGR system". They have not publicly stated that they've fixed the issues with the previous generation engine, but they have publicly stated that they're adding even more "junk" to the engine. No thanks...

Ford tried that "low friction coating" with "lightweight pistons" on the 5.0L V8 for the 2018 model year. Go do a Google search and see how that's worked out for them. Those engines are eating themselves alive.
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Isnít the EcoDiesel thatís going into the Gladiator the same engine thatís been in Dodge trucks for a while now ó the one with horrible reliability and complete failures?


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Pretty much, with some changes, not necessarily for the better. I'd pass on that engine in a big way. Lets not forget the up-charge for the diesel, no thanks.

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