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Old 08-07-2019, 12:15 PM
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Gladiator v Ram

First, I'm a really big fan of the new Gladiator. I'd like to own one but I just don't think it would like to drag my 24' box trailer full of ATV's around. I've been looking at them online anyway and I came up with this comparison today (see attachment). Those are at the same local dealer. Makes the Gladiator a really hard sell in my opinion.

$1300 more for a Ram 2500 with the Cummins diesel. A real hard sell indeed. Anyway I'll be sticking with my old Ford for awhile anyway.

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If looking to do truck things I agree its a hard sell, and then add in the ram discounts they are doing right now.. I think if you need a truck for work, hualing stuff towing.. RAM.. if you need something that you will use to put stuff it the back for camping, maybe some minor towing and want to get off the beatin path more, then Gladiator.
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Id hands down go for the Ram, I think the JT is neat but not worth the expense. id be more in line to cross-shop a JT with a Tacoma. but then again I will never own a JL solely due to price
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Price comparison works North of the boarder as well. Prices are in Canadian dollars.....just multiply .75 cents to get US pricing.






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I've been driving my brother's 5.0 F-150 the past few weeks. I love it. I can see why people are buying pickups! I'd take a RAM over a Gladiator any day. I think.
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It's only a hard sell if you're planning to keep this truck until it falls apart.

If resale value may ever become an issue a few years down the road, the Gladiator is a far better purchase because the Ram won't be worth anything. That's why the banks are projecting the Gladiator at 70% retained value at 4 years, vs. 52% on the Ram. That's also why everybody is leasing Gladiators....the payments are so low due to the fact they don't hardly depreciate at all.

However, if you're keeping the truck forever, then resale doesn't matter and the Ram would certainly tow the trailer much easier.
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drag my 24' box trailer full of ATV's around.
Done deal.
Buy a real truck.
260 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm and ~7600lbs tow capacity... going to be a pretty busy tiring deal...
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650 pound-feet by 1500rpm and depending on options over 900 lb/ft when needed... and ~18,000lbs tow capacity... oh ya, that trailer back there...


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Do you want a Jeep or do you want a truck? Ram it is then.
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Ill stick to my outdated F350 before Id get one of them.
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A Ram with the diesel will do everything better than the JT except off road ability. You can put the JT in the trailer and the Ram will tow it better than the JT with just the trailer. The Ram is quieter, better MPG, longer range, better ride, and probably resale just as good with the diesel. I know, I have a 2014 Ram diesel 2500 4x4 Laramie loaded and it totally rocks my 8K pound TT all over the pacific northwest. My 2014 JKUR is just a toy compared to it. For towing, the Ram and the JT are not even on the same page. Even the Ram 1500 will out tow the JT.
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I will probably vote for JT even though I agree Ram is a better truck overall.
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Just curious how the JT's ride? I haven't heard yet, is the ride similar to the JK or more like a truck. Trucks these days have a better ride then most cars I grew up in.....
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I would not touch a Ram classic with a 10’ pole - I traded my 17 1500 Hemi Ram for a JK. The known (yes they will happen) Hemi lifter issues made it a no brainer for me. The new Ram is nice, no interest in them.

I have always hated IFS 4x4 trucks, prefer SFA - staying JK/JL/JT.

The Cummins is an excellent engine, but the extra expense of it make owning one not worth it for me.

I love my JK, but if it needs replacing, a JT will get a hard look. Or a JK/JL and a Southern GM squarebody.
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[QUOTE=WXman;34462155]It's only a hard sell if you're planning to keep this truck until it falls apart.

If resale value may ever become an issue a few years down the road, the Gladiator is a far better purchase because the Ram won't be worth anything. That's why the banks are projecting the Gladiator at 70% retained value at 4 years, vs. 52% on the Ram. That's also why everybody is leasing Gladiators....the payments are so low due to the fact they don't hardly depreciate at all.

Really the Ram is a TRUCK the Gladiator is a Jeep . The Ram in four years will be worth more with the average miles 50,000 . Looking at 52% back no way in four years the ram will still be a 35,000 or 40,000 real; truck .
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Resale on the CTD ram is excellent! I just got rid on my 2012 CTD and got 75% of what I paid for it.
I love my JK but I have a 2500 for the real work. The Gladiator is neat but if you are doing any heavy hauling it is way to small. If you are heading to Lowes for drywall and some 2x4's, pulling an ATV or stuff like that it is fine. Now it will kick my 2500's butt off road, but then that is why I have a 2dr JK...
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The RAM is a real truck. The Gladiator is a crossover that closely resembles a truck.

Hook some real weight to that Gladiator and it'll break everything from the fan back.

I'm a Jeep guy but if you want a truck buy a truck.
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The RAM is a real truck. The Gladiator is a crossover that closely resembles a truck.

Hook some real weight to that Gladiator and it'll break everything from the fan back.

I'm a Jeep guy but if you want a truck buy a truck.
This is 100% untrue.

But, just for kicks and giggles, please do explain what qualifies a truck as a "real truck".

I've towed maximum weight with everything from a Jeep Liberty to a F-350 dually with the diesel engine. I can tell you for a fact that the Jeep Gladiator is definitely a real truck. It handles maximum towing like a champ. It even gets better MPG with 3.5 tons on the back than any full size truck I've ever owned.
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This is 100% untrue.

But, just for kicks and giggles, please do explain what qualifies a truck as a "real truck".

I've towed maximum weight with everything from a Jeep Liberty to a F-350 dually with the diesel engine. I can tell you for a fact that the Jeep Gladiator is definitely a real truck. It handles maximum towing like a champ. It even gets better MPG with 3.5 tons on the back than any full size truck I've ever owned.
A whole 7,000 pounds! And the best gas mileage ever!? Fantastic!

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Come hook that thing to my hydrovac full of water. Tell yourself whatever it takes to help you sleep at night, you didn't buy a real truck. I've owned a Commander and a Grand Cherokee that towed more than the JT. They weren't trucks either.

So, as someone said. They're great for some drywall, or maybe a load of yoga mats. And as I said, hook some real weight onto that thing and it'll break in four pieces.
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For me a personal, non commercial truck is a vehicle that's primarily used for hauling and towing. (Regular cab & 8 foot bed).

I was doing some renovations the other day. I ran down to Lowe's and got some drywall. I slid two 4ft x 8ft sheets in the bed of my old F-150... Then I slammed the gate shut. You certainly can't do this with a Gladiator... (Or most of the trucks on the road today for that matter).
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If you're going to CONSTANTLY be towing or hauling, get the Ram. If you're going to occasionally haul, or tow lighter loads under the max tow rating and want something that will play better off road than a full size, get the JT. I own a full size pickup because I have a 5th wheel, and have horses. I tow heavy loads every once in a while, and drag my travel trailer around with my pickup. My JT gets used for occasional loads, some light towing, and otherwise is a commuter/weekend warrior. It is a pickup of convenience. If you need to do TRUCK stuff every day, get a new TRUCK. if you need to do TRUCK stuff occasionally, get the JT and a cheap beater used 3/4 ton pickup.
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Forgot to mention, I bought my JT on 7-3, and have driven my full size truck about 5 times since then. The JT has almost 5k on it already. I figure I'm a regular rural user of a pickup, and probably will use the JT 10:1 over the truck.
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GMC 2500 all day long. - If it wasn't for that little thing we call off roading. The JT is not a truck, it's some kind of SUV or cross-over or a mix of both.
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It's a tough sell when my Power Wagon was $10K off MSRP. Even after the cost of wheels and tires, this seemed more reasonably-priced. It has all the Rubicon features: solid axles, disconnecting sway bar, locking front and rear diffs, and thankfully for my uses a reasonable transfer case ratio so I don't have to drive 3mph in low. Also has a factory 12K lb. Warn winch. Windows are huge, and with all four down, the rear glass open, and large sunroof open, it's a very open-air feeling. 2019's are even nicer with an iPad-sized center screen and option to have the Harman-Kardon sound system. And they still are running around $6K off sticker, thought the sticker price has gone up versus 2018.

Sitting in the RAM feels like sitting in an airport hanger versus a JL/JT (which feels like it lost some shoulder room coming from the JK). And of course it has a 6.4L HEMI and can still tow almost 10K lbs (reduced versus regular 2500 due to added PW weight).

JL still may tempt me some day with the diesel and a olive green color offering, but the JT will probably never make my list. The additional covered and air-conditioned cargo room in the JL is too nice and one of the biggest things I gave up moving to a truck.
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JamesWyatt brings up an excellent point. I see hot deals on RAMS all the time. Thousands upon thousands off, sometimes five figures. Not sure how that affects resale (prob doesn't help...), but from what I've seen you can get a whole lot more vehicle for less by going the RAM route. Plus, man.. their interiors are just tops.

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