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Old 10-29-2019, 07:30 AM   #61
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Love how people who can't afford one try to mock those who can with comments like "it'll never see dirt" and similar as they spend the weekend patching the floor board holes in their old CJ's. Human nature is funny sometimes.

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I think my next Jeep will be a Gladiator. I have had a number of Jeeps, all with soft tops. It is a pita trying to access the rear cargo area with the top on.

I think it would be nice to have the Gladiator bed and a tonneau cover.
I like my Gladiator with the hard top

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TX, can one person remove the JT hardtop without too much difficulty?
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TX, can one person remove the JT hardtop without too much difficulty?
It is definitely a two person job and even that two people that can lift more than 50 lbs over their head. And getting the front doors back on takes two people because they are not lite either. But it is a lot of fun driving it around with no doors or roof.
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Old 10-31-2019, 05:15 PM   #65
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Wife mentioned yesterday that she's thinking about trading in her 2013 JK Sahara on a Gladiator. We stopped by the dealer and she sat in one to see if she'd like the seating and other things. She priced one on Jeep's Build Your Own website and it came out to a little under $54,000. She checked to make sure that they make PowerSteps for the Gladiator, which they do. I installed a set on her JK. In addition to helping her with her 5'1" height, she occasionally drives elderly relatives around who might otherwise need a ladder to get in it.

If she goes through with it she will be paying for it out of her paychecks. I offered a bit of incentive and said that whatever she puts on a down payment I will match. She's thinking about doing this next spring. And no, it will never be driven off-road but neither was her Sahara over the past 7 years. She's fine with that and so am I. It's her money.

She likes the Overland trim in Granite Crystal with color matching hardtop.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:19 AM   #66
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I looked at a beautiful Red Gladiator in Boone NC. My impression on this tricked out lifted truck was it’s not small at all.
So some say if your not going off road you should just get a Truck from one of the other manufacturers. But when i drove my F150 i never felt like part of a family. I never got and gave waves to my fellow Ford owners. That and now being able to have a Wrangler and a Gladiator for the truck almost everyone needs is awesome.
I will continue to use my JK for those wintery roads i expect every year and the cool family aspect in the warmer months. And rest assured that those non Jeep drivers around me are secretly wishing they had a jeep too!
Will be looking for a good used Gladiator in about 5 years. 😄👍🏻
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Old 11-02-2019, 02:22 PM   #67
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Local dealer has this Gobi Gladiator Rubicon on the lot. $48,800. I would love it but....did some math. My 2016 Tacoma TRD OR is paid for, and they would probably give me in the neighborhood of $28k for it. So, financing at least $20k. over 60 months I'd be looking at around $330/month for the next 5 years. Or, keep my nice Taco and stay out of debt.

Definitely a want vs need thing.

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I just priced out a 2020 F250 STX 4x4 SuperDuty with the new 7.3L...

$49K.

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I just priced out a 2020 F250 STX 4x4 SuperDuty with the new 7.3L...

$49K.

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That 7.3 looks awesome. I have a 17 F250 w/6.2 and I love that combo, but a 7.3 would sure be nice. If I did not use my truck to tow my 10A sometimes and haul stuff, I would consider a JT. It would be a better DD than my 250, but since I WFH my DD usage is limited at best.
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:10 AM   #70
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I just priced out a 2020 F250 STX 4x4 SuperDuty with the new 7.3L...

$49K.

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That'll be a nice truck, but it'll get 12 MPG running unloaded on a good day with the wind to its back, and I'm never going back to that again.
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That'll be a nice truck, but it'll get 12 MPG running unloaded on a good day with the wind to its back, and I'm never going back to that again.
You are spot on, well, maybe 13, but still not good MPG for a DD. No high capability/capacity truck will return decent MPG. If I ever had to start DD again for work, I would consider a JT since it would be a 'fun' truck-like vehicle that i could still do some truck stuff with. I'm not dissing it, just realizing the category of truck it is in.
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I just priced out a 2020 F250 STX 4x4 SuperDuty with the new 7.3L...

$49K.

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funny I did too. you know ford will have some killer cash back offers. Tried to price the tremor package but would not come up in the build for me. Did it last night.
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I have been test driving the Gladiators. One dealer close to our hunting camp even let me take the truck around the trails to make sure it fit.
Interesting truck, rides nice. Only problem is I dislike the standard wheels and tires the Sport S comes with. By the time you add wheels, tires, rock rails etc... you are in stripped down Rubicon territory, which is what I will be test driving this weekend.
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I have been test driving the Gladiators. One dealer close to our hunting camp even let me take the truck around the trails to make sure it fit.
Interesting truck, rides nice. Only problem is I dislike the standard wheels and tires the Sport S comes with. By the time you add wheels, tires, rock rails etc... you are in stripped down Rubicon territory, which is what I will be test driving this weekend.
I have been looking at the Sport S with max tow and while tires and wheels don't matter because I have a set of AEV saltas and 35's that I will keep if I trade for one, the fender flares look goofy to me on the sports.
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I have been looking at the Sport S with max tow and while tires and wheels don't matter because I have a set of AEV saltas and 35's that I will keep if I trade for one, the fender flares look goofy to me on the sports.
I agree. The fenders on the Sports with the Max Tow are bigger than those optioned without the Max Tow. Gives the big ear look until you stuff some larger tires under them.

I just saw a Gladiator on the web at a different dealer . Looks like they put a small lift on the JT and bigger tires. The wheels look to be off a JL Sahara and it looks really good on a black JT.
Naturally they marked up the price $5k over MSRP for what appears to be spare parts they had lying around.
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I agree. The fenders on the Sports with the Max Tow are bigger than those optioned without the Max Tow. Gives the big ear look until you stuff some larger tires under them.

I just saw a Gladiator on the web at a different dealer . Looks like they put a small lift on the JT and bigger tires. The wheels look to be off a JL Sahara and it looks really good on a black JT.
Naturally they marked up the price $5k over MSRP for what appears to be spare parts they had lying around.
it is not that for me, it is they just look funny compared to the Rubicon flares and it is not the little add on lip they add to the max tow that makes it look funny to me. Just the overall shape of the flare. Hard to explain but compare a rubicon flare and the Sport flare even with same tires and wheels.
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I'm not going down the JT route, but I would build a Sport with MaxTow if I did just to get the 4.10s and the upgraded axles. There are so many people out there pulling off perfectly good Rubicon wheels, tires, and probably flares, that you may be able to add those items for a fraction of the cost to order it.

imho it is something to consider for sure.
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Couldn't resist. Cruise control went out on the JKU WW. Replaced with a JT Rubicon.
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Couldn't resist. Cruise control went out on the JKU WW. Replaced with a JT Rubicon.
I can't think of a better reason. looks great.
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A 2-door version with a longer bed might peak my interest.
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I just priced out a 2020 440i xDrive Coupe with a 3.0...

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That's a lot of moolah ...


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I have an 18 JKU, traded in my Dodge Ram 1500 Rebel when I bought it. I've been watching the release of the Gladiator closely, thinking I could get the best of both worlds with a Gladiator at some point. I just did a build sheet for an Overland, with the options I would want it came to an MSRP of $65,000 Canadian (about $50,000 US). Given this is considered a mid-size truck, even with the off-road capability it is priced way higher than other mid-size 4 wheel drive pick-ups. It's going to be interesting to see what sales look like over the next couple of years.

Like you I thought the price was to high, after looking at the dealer in Las Vegas, then looking in Utah and Arizona I believe I found a deal. Traded our 2018 JK for the Gladiator total price out the door was $47k. Now it has all the bells and whistles less the lift and larger tires. Probably should look again. I am sure once inventory for 2021 is due to arrive prices will come down more.
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As i might have said or insinuated before i will wait till the used market has a good supply. Presently driving my 2013 used JKUS. Might consider trading or selling our Grand Cherokee for a nice used JT. Future looks bright. Done buying New. Thankfully most of the wrangler owners take care of and don’t beat the crud out of them off-road. I like trail driving just not a see how close i can come to flipping it on a technical rock climb guy anymore.
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