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Old 01-30-2019, 08:19 AM   #151
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I stopped by the local dealership last week to talk about the Gladiator. After seeing the sticker price of a new Wrangler Rubicon, I can only imagine the Gladiator will be similar or more expensive (especially with all the hype going on). I just can't justify spending $50k plus for a dang Jeep. I'm starting to think you Jeep-people are cray-cray for actually spending that on a Jeep! Who spends that kind of money on a Chrysler product?? I'm sure some of you Jeep loyalists out there will now feel a sense of urgency to lash-out at me for voicing my opinion, but I'm okay with that. However, I'll give Jeep the benefit of the doubt until the Gladiator hits the dealer's lot with a posted price tag, yet I'm about 95% certain I will buy a traditional Silverado or F150 early this summer.
You're echoing my earlier sentiments. $50k+ for a stock Jeep Rubicon, that will no doubt need even more cash thrown at it? Not inconceiveable to have over $80k in a built JLUR you are then going to subject to the rocks out here? JMHO, of course, but Jeep squeezed the customers' gonands just too far on the JL, across the board. As for the Gladiator, if they're going to call it that, why not make it look like one?

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Old 01-30-2019, 10:32 AM   #152
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It's neither a Gladiator nor a Scrambler. It shares the face of a Wrangler and has a separate truck bed. The Gladiator shared a face with the Waggie and the CJ8 didn't have a separate bed. I understand the "throw back", I just don't like it
I think some of the reasoning behind using the Gladiator name was specifically to tell us that Jeep will not be releasing a full size truck.

While I think there is a huge market for a Ram wearing Jeep logos and maybe a reworked grill, I understand that FCA management doesn't want Jeep cutting into Ram sales so it's just not going to happen. By using the Gladiator name on the new truck, they're making that pretty clear.

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I don't have any issue with Jeep using the Gladiator name for the JT. It IS a truck, it IS a Jeep.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:07 PM   #154
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So here is my struggle on the Gladiator. It seems outside of the cool factor, and believe me I think it is very cool, I can't get to a justification for one for what they will most likely end up charging. I've owned trucks, cars, SUVs and a Wrangler ages ago. I just bought a JKURHR. I love it. I had a list of what I wanted in an SUV and it was the only thing out there that checked all the boxes. I looked at Tacoma TRD Pros, ZR2s, 4Runners and anything else remotely similar and just ended up deciding I didn't need a truck again, didn't want to pay the truck premium in the market and other "off-road" SUVs just didn't look as fun. I contemplated waiting on the Gladiator but I know it is going to be priced ridiculously high and there won't be a lot of haggle room because people will be standing in line for them. Once in a blue moon I could use a truck for something but generally my Home Depot trips fit in an SUV or on top of an SUV with a rack. I think Jeep is going to sell a ton though because of the cool factor and face it, the majority of people buying 50 and 60k trucks don't need them. They like them so fine by me. I think it will be the same thing. If you really need a truck then evaluate the Gladiator as a truck, but in reality I think most buyers will not do that. I personally like having the enclosed rear because I almost always have kids sports stuff or my hobby stuff inside the vehicle and you just don't leave stuff in the back of a truck all the time. Sure, you can buy a truck and then put a shell on it (I did this myself year's ago), but then you end up limiting the trucks carrying ability. I guess my ramble in short is, it is going to be a really cool Jeep product but end of day, most truck buyers don't really need a truck. My thought process is think of what you really need, list and weigh all options and go from there. Especially given truck pricing which is crazy. I'll admit in a few years when there are some used ones on the market it might be more enticing. But considering what loaded Rubis are now, Jeep will get a truck premium and it just is too much for something that should be used as a tool when most of the time they are driven around with an empty bed.
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I've gotten along just fine for years using a folding 4x8' utility trailer for the two or three times a year I need to haul something, instead of owning a gigantic truck that's hauling air the rest of the time....
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... using a folding 4x8' utility trailer for the two or three times a year I need to haul something, instead of owning a gigantic truck that's hauling air the rest of the time....
Yup, picked up a used Wrangler cheap with a hitch so I'm all set. And having something a little beat up fits much better with my idea of the Jeep ethos than some extremely expensive afraid-to-get-a-scratch new vehicle.

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I do not need to haul anything - still want one. They say that it is better to have what you do not need then to need what you do not have.
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I agree with the post about most people donít by trucks to actually use them for there purpose . I am one of the weirdos that actually needs a truck . I haul our boat every weekend to the lake in summer , constantly moving stuff .

But letís face it ... any more these are purely lifestyle vehicles . I think the JT will be super cool. Hope to see some soon.

I bought a raptor instead though . Wanted that full size truck again . Kept my jkurhr as well .


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A diesel option would be epic any one hear of it
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A diesel option would be epic any one hear of it
They have pretty much confirmed the 3.0 EcoDiesel will be an option. However, due to limitations in the cooling system, the tow rating for the diesel will be less than the 3.6 gas engine. But if you're not pushing the towing limits, it will be a good overall improvement over the 3.6. The diesel will have much better low end torque than the 3.6.
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I think a diesel should be available in every wrangler I think it would be killer off road


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The talk is that the 3.0 EcoDiesel will be available in the JL as well as the JT for the 2020 model year.

I like the idea of having a diesel and I've looked into getting one. But when you add up the purchase cost and then put in the mods that I would want to do to make it as capable or more as the paid for JK I currently have, the budget quickly goes way higher than I am comfortable with. Even selling the JK to fund the new Jeep build, it's just not in the cards for me.
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You would rather have less torque and worse fuel milage?
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You would rather have less torque and worse fuel milage?
Along with 20% lower fuel costs, lower maintenance costs and better reliability?

Yes, I'd rather have the big gasser every time.
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Along with 20% lower fuel costs, lower maintenance costs and better reliability?

Yes, I'd rather have the big gasser every time.
Get 26 MPG in my diesel GC, Hemi's get about 18, price per mile is cheaper with diesel.. As for reliability, I'll take a diesels over the gas burner any day. You got me on maintenance, the 3.0 takes 9 quarts of Rotella but adding an extra $10 every 6000 miles is not a deal breaker. Going to have to come up with a better argument for that under powered overrated engine.
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I had a Passat diesel got 50mpg it was a 97 I canít wait to see this new gladiator


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Get 26 MPG in my diesel GC, Hemi's get about 18, price per mile is cheaper with diesel.. As for reliability, I'll take a diesels over the gas burner any day. You got me on maintenance, the 3.0 takes 9 quarts of Rotella but adding an extra $10 every 6000 miles is not a deal breaker. Going to have to come up with a better argument for that under powered overrated engine.
Maintenance is more than engine oil...DEF fluid adds up, emission repair costs are more frequent not to mention the spun bearings. The $300/yr saved in fuel costs are quickly spent, plus the higher initial upfront price paid just to get the oil burner. Unless your using it for towing, diesel isn't for everybody.

The Hemi may be a decade old, iron block of a boat anchor, but it's the best FCA has to offer for now.
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The Hemi may be a decade old, iron block of a boat anchor, but it's the best FCA has to offer for now.
That's a lot like saying you're the tallest midget in the circus.
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Will definetely think about it. Sold my JKU Sport a while ago and bought a truck cause i needed the size of a truck with 4x4 so i bought a RAM 1500 crew cab 4x4 with the Hemi, but i do miss my Wrangler a lot especially cause i can't rock crawl with this thing and it's little boring in that regards. I may sell the wife's truck, let the wife take over my RAM and get a Gladiator for myself. i have a family of 5 with the oldeset getting into high school this year so i'll have no room for short base anything for a big while
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I saw the Gladiator at our local show, and it looks a lot better in person than in videos / photos. It was also getting a lot of attention, so my guess is it will sell well as long as the price isn’t crazy.

Some will anything over $50K is crazy, but ALL trucks have become extremely expensive. A mid-level Ford Ranger was stickered in the upper $40K’s; comparable F-150’s are now upper $50K’s. The entire truck market is pricey, so it’s all about how the Gladiator is priced relative to the competition.

I’ll stick with my JKU because I already have an F250 that I use to tow an enclosed car trailer. But the Gladiator did look pretty good.
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I can't wait to see one in person. In the videos it just looks long and awkward. In regards to pricing I just have trouble understanding the market anymore. The price point for Wranglers and light/mid duty trucks is staggering to me.

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I saw the Gladiator at our local show, and it looks a lot better in person than in videos / photos. It was also getting a lot of attention, so my guess is it will sell well as long as the price isnít crazy.

Some will anything over $50K is crazy, but ALL trucks have become extremely expensive. A mid-level Ford Ranger was stickered in the upper $40Kís; comparable F-150ís are now upper $50Kís. The entire truck market is pricey, so itís all about how the Gladiator is priced relative to the competition.

Iíll stick with my JKU because I already have an F250 that I use to tow an enclosed car trailer. But the Gladiator did look pretty good.
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I plan to buy a JTR once the diesel option comes out. I started easing the wife into the idea about 6~7 months ago and dropped my estimated price on her once the gasser prices were announced. That way she will not be sticker shocked when the time comes to pull the trigger. lol

Hopefully the Sting Gray color is still an option then.
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