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Old 01-09-2015, 09:25 AM
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Looking for vendors to buy headers? First post

Hey WF,

First post on the forums, been lurking here unregistered about a year. Couple months ago I picked up my new girl, an 05 TJ Rubicon black on black soft top with the NSG370. 2 owner garage kept with a 2" OME lift, 285/65 BFG KM2s, ARB rock rails, and a Borla catback. Only had 42,000 miles when I picked her up. Lovin it, been too cold though haven't even got to pull the top down.

I noticed when I drove her she had an exhaust tick. It's progressively gotten slightly louder and It seems to be coming from the exhaust manifold at the #6 cylinder right by the fire wall. There appears to be a little bit of black deposit around the flange as well. I got a huge book of service records and the PO took it back to Dodge to have the manifold checked a year or two ago and Dodge told him nothing was wrong. I've tried tightening the bolts on that side and haven't found much relief. If I have to take the manifolds all off to get it to seal , I'm just gonna replace it.

Which leads me to my final dilemma. Im wanting to purchase the Borla headers for my 05 (part #17202). I've checked the big box stores, but do we have any smaller vendors here that sell this or give discounts. I was very active on the R6 Forum, and we had several vendors that supported members and helped us with great deals and pricing, guess I'm hoping someone can point me in that direction here. Thanks guys, looking forward to being a member of the family.

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FWIW most here don't recommend running aftermarket "headers" due to cracking....apparently they crack more than the stockers do.

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There is a fair amount of movement in the stock engine and exhaust. Early TJ manifolds had issues with cracks. Later models have expansion joints that for the most part solved the problem. Yours has them. The aftermarket headers do not have them and just about all of them have had an issue of cracks because of this. Also note if you are looking for performance gain, there is very minimal (to no) gain.

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There is a fair amount of movement in the stock engine and exhaust. Early TJ manifolds had issues with cracks. Later models have expansion joints that for the most part solved the problem. Yours has them. The aftermarket headers do not have them and just about all of them have had an issue of cracks because of this. Also note if you are looking for performance gain, there is very minimal (to no) gain.

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Fair enough, is the exhaust leak/sealing issue a common problem? The headers look a little rough, but nothing I don't think a brush and some soap would handle. They don't appear cracked at all, just not sealin properly. So now I'm thinking pull it off, maybe a cleaning and some high temp paint, clean the mating surface, new gasket and hardware? I'm guessing you wold go this route over the Borlas?
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Fair enough, is the exhaust leak/sealing issue a common problem? The headers look a little rough, but nothing I don't think a brush and some soap would handle. They don't appear cracked at all, just not sealin properly. So now I'm thinking pull it off, maybe a cleaning and some high temp paint, clean the mating surface, new gasket and hardware? I'm guessing you wold go this route over the Borlas?
Exhaust manifold leaks are fairly common, and are usually found in the down tubes near the collector. On mine, it was cracked around to the inside where welding wasn't an option, and couldn't really be seen until the manifold was removed. I would just replace it with an OEM type. You can find them for right around $100 on line.
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This is what mine has done. I'll be replacing it with a stock type manifold when it warms up a bit...

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