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Jeep 2016 unlimited rubicon DIES IN REVERSE

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#1 ·
I have an odd problem. I own a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. currently it is at the dealer but they are having issues determining the root cause of my current problem.

Problem: Upon my first start of the day; I start my jeep, i have brake peal engaged jeep starts no issue at all. I put my jeep into reverse and it low idles (kind of shutters) then dies. Sometimes it does a hard shutter low idle and can stay alive. This issue can happen with remote start or standard ignition key start. It does not happen every start but is not uncommon.

Another strange piece not sure if it is really related... If i put into reverse but do not engage the brake completely it will survive he (let is slowly reverse with brake slightly engaged), but it still shutters and low idles however it usually can survive. so not sure if pressing or engaging the brake has anything to do with it.

any help is much appreciated.
 
#3 ·
I have a 16 Willy's JK with a very similar issue. It has never actually died completely, but just like you describe the first time I shift into reverse it idles down and runs rough for a couple seconds.

Doesn't do it if I shift into drive or if it's been run for a bit. I read somewhere once that it could be an issue with the torque converter if it's an automatic.

Curious to see if the dealer can figure it out for you.
 
#5 ·
mattyg1985, I've also read from other post/forums possible torque converter; i mentioned this to dealer but did seem interested in anything from the evil "internet"

I have an automatic and just like you state it never happens in drive only reverse. An interesting point is that is seems if i engage the brake harder it is more likely to occur.
 
#6 ·
Get an experienced mechanic asap .

I have an automatic and just like you state it never happens in drive only reverse. An interesting point is that is seems if i engage the brake harder it is more likely to occur.
Sounds like a safety issue , and also sounds like you need an experienced independent mechanic as the dealer doesn't want to listen to you . :bop:
 
#9 ·
Looks like Jeep Dealer may have found the root cause.
"Found Code: P0441" Purge Solinoid Vacum sticking. replaced Purge Solinoid.

Vehicle under warrently no charge for parts and labor. Hope this if fixed for good.

Thanks to everyone who responded here. Great Forum.
 
#11 ·
So is this the purge valve on the evap canister? Since I'm having similar but less severe issues and out of warranty already I'm thinking I might just swap it out myself. Only about $20 at O'Reilly.

I have the added fun that I installed an evap relocation kit, but that shouldn't be the cause since I was having this problem before.

I'm not throwing any codes either.
 
#13 ·
I'm so sorry to hear this--please let us know ahead of time if you have another appointment scheduling by sending a PM with your VIN so we can be involved.

Kori
Jeep Social Care Specialist
 
#15 ·
crank shaft position sensor is bad.... crank and camshaft sensors when they go bad don't give error codes when they start to fail but will cause the computer on the jeep to turn off the engine.....

Good news is they are cheap and easy to replace....
 
#16 ·
They say we test not guess sometimes throwing parts at it dont work.After someone figures out a problem it is easy for others. Intermittent or temperature related is sometimes tough to figure out. The dealer may have to keep it a few days with Chrysler involvement. I know it takes a little more power from the engine it go into reverse than into drive
 
#17 ·
First i want to thank everyone for the responses and interest. Additionally Kori with Jeep Social Care Specialist involvement has been very useful and appreciated. This is the reason i joined this Forum. Jeep has such a good support system with their owners.

I have now received my Jeep from back from my local Jeep dealership. They have informed me they believe they have found the root cause.
Info from Dealership: "Transmission Input shaft & seals, and needs torque converter, TCC stincking and causing die out." They replaced torque converter & input shaft/seals.

At this point i have not experienced the issue again. With brake engaged, i put it into reverse i no long experience any low idle, nor does it die. I am optimistic this is the fix.

Thanks again for the help.
 
#400 ·
Hello Brad I am experiencing the same issue with my jeep and the dealer cannot determine what is the problem. Is there anyway you could look for the paperwork from when the jeep was in the dealership and see what it said on the service paperwork for exactly what they did and what the reason was. I might need to get a copy of it so I can get mine fixed because I haven’t having no luck with the dealer thank you
 
#19 ·
Same Problem

I have a 2016 Unlimited, 34,000 miles on it... It has been stalling on me like crazy when i reverse out of my driveway and sometimes ill make it out of the drive and it will stall out putting it into drive... It has been at the dealership for a week now and they still cant figure out the root cause. I will mention what dealership told you was the root cause
 
#20 ·
I have a 2016 Unlimited, 34,000 miles on it... It has been stalling on me like crazy when i reverse out of my driveway and sometimes ill make it out of the drive and it will stall out putting it into drive... It has been at the dealership for a week now and they still cant figure out the root cause. I will mention what dealership told you was the root cause
Hi paulyg1683,
We regret to hear this! We would like to offer an additional layer of assistance while you are working with your dealer. Please send us a private message with your VIN, phone number and servicing dealer.
Julie
Jeep Social Care Specialist
 
#24 ·
Hi Julie,
thank you!! I actually got my Wrangler back today after two weeks, they needed to replace the torque converter. So the dealership ended up replacing the transmission as well
Thanks for following up on this, paulyg1683. I am glad to hear that the dealership was able to get everything addressed for you. Please do feel free to send us a PM in the further if you need any assistance.
Julie
Jeep Social Care Specialist
 
#30 ·
Welcome to the Forum Siebring50,

Why don't you PM Julie at JeepCares? Once you contact her let her know your next dealer appointment and VIN. I'm sure she can help.

Let us know how it goes for you.

Good Luck, L.M.
 
#32 ·
Mine is doing the same thing! I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited with less than 39,000 miles; which I bought new with 8 miles on it. Warranty just went out and this started! So far, it is only when I put her in reverse to backup. If I let off the break quickly after switching to reverse, she doesn’t die. But if I hold break while backing out (reverse) of my drive, she dies. No problems in Drive or going down the road... (as of this moment). Thought it was cold weather at first, but it started happening more often.
Can I get some help?
-Jennifer
 
#34 ·
Welcome to the Forum 270teacher,

Contact Julie at JeepCares. I don't know if she can help with your Jeep at 39K miles, but it's certainly worth the effort to ask.

Good Luck, L.M.
 
#36 ·
best option is to call jeep cares and contact bonnie she has my case documented. Mine was doing the same thing on a cold day first startup it would stall in reverse. They had my car for a month and changed the transmission valve cover, they tried the solenoid, until they finally replaced the Torque Converter which was the issue. Have had my car for a year now basically with no problems
 
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