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Old 05-14-2018, 12:22 AM
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Winch use survey

This is a survey of people that have 'winches' on the front of their jeeps.

My estimation is that when you decide to put a winch on your jeep, you have an expenditure of AT LEAST $700 to $2000 for this upgrade. I had a winch on my YJ that cost me approximately $1000 for the winch, bumper to mount it, pulleys, etc. etc,.

I put it on my YJ in 2005 and in the 13 years I owned the jeep with a winch on it, I used it exactly ZERO times. Never once did I go anywhere where I needed the winch to get out of where I got myself into. I have gone place where other jeeper's just watched to see if I would roll or flip over, but NEVER have I had to use my winch. I am sure that the extra weight on the front of my jeep have been a help for NOT flipping over backwards. BUT, never have I had to use the winch for getting out of a place my two lockers would not get me out of.

In a kind of POLL, how many people have winches on the front bumper of their Jeeps and have NEVER used them?

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On my current Jeep yes, but it is only 2 months old.

Every other Jeep I had, about 14 over the years, I have used it on each one, a lot.......

I guess I tend to get into situations or the people I am with get into one and I have to pull them out.........

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This is a survey of people that have 'winches' on the front of their jeeps.

My estimation is that when you decide to put a winch on your jeep, you have an expenditure of AT LEAST $700 to $2000 for this upgrade. I had a winch on my YJ that cost me approximately $1000 for the winch, bumper to mount it, pulleys, etc. etc,.

I put it on my YJ in 2005 and in the 13 years I owned the jeep with a winch on it, I used it exactly ZERO times. Never once did I go anywhere where I needed the winch to get out of where I got myself into. I have gone place where other jeeper's just watched to see if I would roll or flip over, but NEVER have I had to use my winch. I am sure that the extra weight on the front of my jeep have been a help for NOT flipping over backwards. BUT, never have I had to use the winch for getting out of a place my two lockers would not get me out of.

In a kind of POLL, how many people have winches on the front bumper of their Jeeps and have NEVER used them?

Not me.
A winch on the Jeep to me means you wheel either by yourself (not a good idea) or with others that get stuck (you wheel in some pretty good terrain).

Putting a winch on the Jeep and never having used it other than to do maintenance on the winch tells me your not comfortable with the winch and its intended uses. Placing a winch on the bumper and not knowing how to use it is like purchasing a firearm and carrying it as a scare tactic IMO.

It requires a lot of education for safety purposes and too much money to sit there and get rusty. I have used my winches thru the years for recovery of others more than myself.
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I have a winch for insurance. I don't want to collect on my life insurance, lol. I don't try to get stuck either. I had front and rear winches on a Ram diesel, and never had to use them. I was just prudent about where I went off-road, instead of going wherever I might want to go.
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I have a Warn PowerPlant that includes an air compressor. I use the compressor a lot, seldom the winch, and I've never used it for self-recovery... yet.
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My old ride was an XJ that we would get buried regularly in the back woods of the Northeast. Chains, straps, and a Hi-lift jack would get us out, one click, one inch at a time. Oh, how I wished I had a winch in my broke-ass college years.

Now, i've saved my pennies to get a decent JK with a winch, and only used it once in three years, to help rescue a random lost Ford Exploder that was WAY too far down a nasty trail.

Edit: there was that one time I used it to bend my car exhaust back into place...
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In my experience, for most people a winch is most useful on vehicles that are closer to stock than they are on well built off road trucks. Built vehicles are more likely to get through spots where less built ones will need help.
That said, it's always nice to have at least one person along who has a winch installed.

Myself, I like having a winch because I am often out alone, I have a habit of choosing roads simply to see where they go and often find trails etc that demand checking out.
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Maxtor makes a good point about winches on lesser built Jeeps. I use my Jeep as a daily driver and often go on the easy trails alone.
I know my abilities and the abilities of my Jeep and I try to not exceed either.

Some Jeepers say "If you're not getting stuck, you're not wheeling hard enough". I don't want to work that hard.

I've used my winch once to straighten a gate post that someone hit with a piece of machinery.

Like a pistol, "It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".

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Not me.
A winch on the Jeep to me means you wheel either by yourself (not a good idea) or with others that get stuck (you wheel in some pretty good terrain).

Putting a winch on the Jeep and never having used it other than to do maintenance on the winch tells me your not comfortable with the winch and its intended uses. Placing a winch on the bumper and not knowing how to use it is like purchasing a firearm and carrying it as a scare tactic IMO.

It requires a lot of education for safety purposes and too much money to sit there and get rusty. I have used my winches thru the years for recovery of others more than myself.
Oh I am very familiar and comfortable with winches and have used them many times in "PROFESSIONAL & COMMERCIAL" applications. The wifey and I do wheel 90% of the time by ourselves because we were retired for 8 years and everybody we jeeped with at that time had to work. I am an adrenaline junkie when we go out and have even asked the wife to get out more than once just in case the jeep 'slipped'. Just seems that everywhere we aimed Betsey, (the old 87 YJ) she would NOT BE STOPPED! I guess I will put one on the new heeps because of the ole adage, "Better to have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it!" The one in my shopping cart is only $1700. Pocket change, RIGHT!!!
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Maxtor makes a good point about winches on lesser built Jeeps. I use my Jeep as a daily driver and often go on the easy trails alone.
I know my abilities and the abilities of my Jeep and I try to not exceed either.

Some Jeepers say "If you're not getting stuck, you're not wheeling hard enough". I don't want to work that hard.

I've used my winch once to straighten a gate post that someone hit with a piece of machinery.

Like a pistol, "It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".

Good Luck, L.M.
L.M. That is a very wise and accurate phrase. It is what I try to live by also. It seems that when I decided to "watch" a particular obstacle being wheeled instead of leading the way, it always resulted in broken parts or winches being broken out and used for those who chose to, say- SHOW OFF. I try to NOT break parts on purpose either. WELL SAID!!!
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i have used mine a bit. this one actually required a chainsaw too, since i slid down in between two trees in the show and ice.

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I keep one for the same reason I keep a full size spare on the back. My lady and I wheel alone, typically, and not having the means to get out of a jam is foolish.
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Having discussed it with 'The Boss' after all the great input, WE both agree that a good winch is not a nice to have upgrade, it is a MUST HAVE. I am NEVER without my CCW, and I would like to say I was glad I had my winch when something unexpected happens rather than WISH I HAD BOUGHT ONE.. Thanks for all the input and good logic.
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My estimation is that when you decide to put a winch on your jeep, you have an expenditure of AT LEAST $700 to $2000 for this upgrade.
I have a cheap $300 quadratec winch that has served me well. I'm not going to deny that it wasn't in the back of my mind when using it though..

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BUT, never have I had to use the winch for getting out of a place my two lockers would not get me out of.
Using that logic, how would you make the argument for having lockers? That's like saying "I've never been in a place that my two open differentials couldn't get me out of..."

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In my experience, for most people a winch is most useful on vehicles that are closer to stock than they are on well built off road trucks. Built vehicles are more likely to get through spots where less built ones will need help.
I couldn't disagree more. I've seen people wheel the snot out of a stock rig and people with buggies that are terrified to used them. I think it's all driver dependent.

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It seems that when I decided to "watch" a particular obstacle being wheeled instead of leading the way, it always resulted in broken parts or winches being broken out and used for those who chose to, say- SHOW OFF. I try to NOT break parts on purpose either. WELL SAID!!!
Some people like a challenge. If you break a part that doesn't mean you were showing off...(who breaks parts on purpose on a trail just for fun?)

These pictures are of a buddy and me on a trail called carnage canyon...rated a 9-10. This trail is less than a mile long (.8 to be exact) and it took us 6 hours to get through it. I used my winch no less than 10 times. I snapped the cable half way through. Some trails actually require a winch. I learned a lot about my Jeep and driving ability that day. And it was fun!
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a foolish thing to not have if your wheeling alone, in my opinion. taught the wife how to operate it correctly as well.
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In the last 2 years I used the winch 4-5 times. Mainly fooling around knowing that the chance of getting stuck was there, but I had a winch. Only once used to get me off a rock. But to put it in perspective, I have had a spare tire for 25 years and never used it. (other than in rotation)
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Just got my winch about 2 months ago. Havent had to use it yet, have cleaned the rope once and also keep it covered to protect from elements here in the mid-atlantic. But in my mind, it is a crucial piece of equipment to have. similar to insurance, there when you need it.
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My old ride was an XJ that we would get buried regularly in the back woods of the Northeast. Chains, straps, and a Hi-lift jack would get us out, one click, one inch at a time. Oh, how I wished I had a winch in my broke-ass college years.

Now, i've saved my pennies to get a decent JK with a winch, and only used it once in three years, to help rescue a random lost Ford Exploder that was WAY too far down a nasty trail.

Edit: there was that one time I used it to bend my car exhaust back into place...
Yeah exactly, back in college spent 8 hours on an icy ridge in colorado trying not to let my truck and my buddies jeep fall of the side of the cliff. one click at a time with his hi-lift and my truck chained to the back of his jeep, and both tied to trees on the non cliff side to keep from sliding over the edge.
ramen noodle for a month then we both got winches and used them several time over the years. not taking my new (to me) JKU out until I mount one on there.
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as far as price goes it was a dirt cheap ebay 12K winch, looking at one again. for about the same price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-BULL-1200...19.m1438.l2649

Any one used one of these with the little wireless remotes before?

How reliable are the remotes? and how much more complex does it make the control box?

my old one on the truck still works after 10 years exposed to the elements, but it didnt have the wireless. I kinda like the idea of the remote to winch from further 10 feet away from the jeep.
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as far as price goes it was a dirt cheap ebay 12K winch, looking at one again. for about the same price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-BULL-1200...19.m1438.l2649

Any one used one of these with the little wireless remotes before?

How reliable are the remotes? and how much more complex does it make the control box?

my old one on the truck still works after 10 years exposed to the elements, but it didnt have the wireless. I kinda like the idea of the remote to winch from further 10 feet away from the jeep.
It looks like it is already installed, and should be self contained. Ill bet it is just as tough as a standard control box.

And the wireless addon boxes are just as easy to wire up. If you've ever used a relay, you can figure out how to install these things.
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Yeah you're right, I probably dont have to do anything to the control box just connect the winch up and it will be good to go.

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In a kind of POLL, how many people have winches on the front bumper of their Jeeps and have NEVER used them?
We're going to find out.

Just put a bumper-mounted winch on, in anticipation of some solo-wheeling out in Colorado (on popular, well traveled trails). I don't really anticipate using it to get us out of trouble, but I could see using to help someone else out. Then again, it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. The last time we went out I took my dad's manual cable puller (not a Come Along brand, but similar). But as I get older I don't want to risk not having the brute strength to use something like that.

As we get more comfortable with the vehicle and taking it off road, there is at least one trail where a winch is mandatory equipment (Poughkeepsie Gulch). I want to knock that one off of my bucket list before I die.
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IMO, it doesn't matter if one has a bone stock rig, or has spent thousands (maybe 10s of thousands) on all the best off-road goodies one can order and slap on their rig, the best advice when it comes to off-roading comes from a very wise man named Harry Callahan...... "A man's got to know his limitations."

Unfortunately, man has still not learned this through the ages......
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Winch use survey

I have a warn xd9000i on my JK. It was on my TJ as well. It was used twice on the TJ. once to help down a tree, and once to pull a Hyundai off a curb during an ice storm.

On the Jk It hasnít been used because itís a rubicon...everyone knows they donít get stuck.

ESP on the street. I havenít had time to have any off-roading severe enough to risk getting it stuck. Nor the desire...getting stuck sucks.


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As we get more comfortable with the vehicle and taking it off road, there is at least one trail where a winch is mandatory equipment (Poughkeepsie Gulch). I want to knock that one off of my bucket list before I die.
Poughkeepsie is not a mandatory winch need...

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On the Jk It hasnít been used because itís a rubicon...everyone knows they donít get stuck.
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We go to the mountains camping and wheeling at least 4 times a year for a week each time (yes I trailer my old Jeep YJ behind my RV), and I use my winch at least once a day every day we are out there, either recovering myself, or others on the trail. I also use it to drag trees out of the way or drag them out to buck them up for firewood. I also use my jeep to run around town in the winter and I generally use it a few times a year dragging people out of snow banks
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[QUOTE=hosejockey61;33772709]Poughkeepsie is not a mandatory winch need...


...until you need one.

You're correct in that it's not mandatory. It is recommended.
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I got stuck last winter in the snow... I wasn't wheeling offroad.. I was just going down a country road not far from where I live that I've driven down many times before. I misjudged the depth of a snowdrift and got hung up. (Front and rear wheels spinning).

So there I sat looking at a tree about 50 feet away that I could have hooked up to and easily pulled myself clear of the drift. That's when I decided to get a winch.

I may never need it again, but at least I'll have some piece of mind for the money I spent. Plus I think a Jeep looks cooler with a winch mounted on an after market front bumper.
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Have had winches on all five of my prior jeeps, and each at times required their use, kind of depends where you might be going. Living in Colorado there are a lot of conditions and weather to consider. My last two F150's all have had receiver winches and even they have been used. They are a tool for my adventures.
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