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Old 11-14-2019, 06:56 AM
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Ok, this has been amusing to say the least. About 9 months ago I bought my first Jeep, a 95 YJ and I freaking love that thing. However, in this short time I have realized I wanted more room and to make longer trips, ie planning on going from TN to AZ this summer on a 10 day Jeep trip......so about 2 weeks ago I bought a JKU.

NOW, that being said, its SO FUNNY reading the JK forum. When I get on the YJ side, its about parts and builds, gears and frames and yall PREACH regear, tire size to axle ratios.....man you can get flammed on here for thinking of running 35s on a Dana 30!!! NOT ON THE JK SIDE!!!

EVERY SINGLE ONE (large amount) of them is running 35s on a 30 and some run 37s! Threads are about seat covers, heat warmers, sound systems and bluetooth Halo lights, and light bars! Very few WHEELING threads. Very amusing the mindset difference between the 2!

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You mean there's nothing about them spontaneously combusting?.Or the poo, poo V6 mini van engine?
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Ok, this has been amusing to say the least. About 9 months ago I bought my first Jeep, a 95 YJ and I freaking love that thing. However, in this short time I have realized I wanted more room and to make longer trips, ie planning on going from TN to AZ this summer on a 10 day Jeep trip......so about 2 weeks ago I bought a JKU.

NOW, that being said, its SO FUNNY reading the JK forum. When I get on the YJ side, its about parts and builds, gears and frames and yall PREACH regear, tire size to axle ratios.....man you can get flammed on here for thinking of running 35s on a Dana 30!!! NOT ON THE JK SIDE!!! AHAHAAHA

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is running 35s on a 30 and some run 37s! Threads are about seat covers, heat warmers, sound systems and bluetooth Halo lights, and light bars! Very few WHEELING threads. Very amusing the mindset difference between the 2!
IMO you're partially correct and partially misinformed.

It's a different demographic, and that's what possibly has saved Jeep from extinction. So personally I'm willing to deal with the soccer mom builds to keep the brand alive. Although there are plenty of JK people building Jeeps to take off road, you just need to sort thru the light bars and radios to find them.

The JK section also preaches regear, but the 2012+ engine trans combo makes running 35s on stock 3.73 or 4.10 gears acceptable (for the most part). That combo leaves you with a better ratio than the standard 3.21 gear set with stock 32s.

On another note, the new Dana 30 HD on the JK is more than capable of running 35s. The housing is just as strong as the Dana 44 HD in the rubicon, the 30 is just a smaller gear set and lower spline shafts. Plenty for the mall, but if you're wheeling hard you'd want to upgrade.

And my wife won't go without heated seats, which can be added to a YJ too. But she probably doesn't wheel as hard as you LOL Her build (below) is in my sig, maybe it meets your standards??( Minus the heated seats and seat covers...)



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What about the electrical problems and constant sensor issues that will shut down the motor at the worst possible time in the JK's?
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Are you serious? You must be reading a very different forum. To say "EVERY SINGLE" capitalized, is very specific, which is absolutely not true

It's also funny to read the hyperbole about a "minivan" engine. Trying to dismiss the engine because it is also used in a minivan is hilarious. It is the most popular mopar engine that is used in many vehicles. It's potent, reliable and delivers great power and torque.

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One word.........Fiat..bwwwhahhahahaha,ha,ha... One has to wonder what sales would look like if somebody obtained all the tooling for say a 65 CJ5 and reproduced them. Brand spanking new off the line. Locked D44, 4 speed, D18 or 20 case and that mighty 4 banger. The JK's or whatever as of lately are are nice and luxurious, but you gotta love the real deal. Same goes for the original Broncos and some other choice rigs.Man, where do I sign up for one
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Funny enough, I just scanned both forums "general" section.

First few posts in YJ are how to add a third row and what to name it.

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Jeep died in 2007 now they just make unreliable minivans for the unwashed masses. Not that there is anything wrong with that, soccer moms and LGBT can enjoy modifying jeeps now. It's 2019 after all.

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What about the electrical problems and constant sensor issues that will shut down the motor at the worst possible time in the JK's?
Because no YJ has ever broken down? LOL
Come on man.... In 90,000+ miles I've had 1 trail break down on our 2014 that couldn't be fixed on the trail. Zero break downs on the 2013, 2016 or the 2018.

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One word.........Fiat..bwwwhahhahahaha,ha,ha... One has to wonder what sales would look like if somebody obtained all the tooling for say a 65 CJ5 and reproduced them. Brand spanking new off the line. Locked D44, 4 speed, D18 or 20 case and that mighty 4 banger. The JK's or whatever as of lately are are nice and luxurious, but you gotta love the real deal. Same goes for the original Broncos and some other choice rigs.Man, where do I sign up for one
I agree, but that vehicle will never be built because of all the crappy regs we have now days. The newer Jeeps are the closest you'll get to that. Our 2016 still had manual locks, half doors, no power, etc, although we did opt for AC. They're out there if you want one.

I wonder if the FIAT Jeeps will be making fun of the new ones when they're owned by Peugeot?

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Because no YJ has ever broken down? LOLCome on man.... In 90,000+ miles I've had 1 trail break down on our 2014 that couldn't be fixed on the trail. Zero break downs on the 2013, 2016 or the 2018.
Well then you have been fortunate. I personally know many JK owners and they constantly whine about electrical and sensor issues.
Many YJ's/TJ's break down just a lot easier and cheaper to fix them.

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I agree, but that vehicle will never be built because of all the crappy regs we have now days. The newer Jeeps are the closest you'll get to that. Our 2016 still had manual locks, half doors, no power, etc, although we did opt for AC. They're out there if you want one.

I wonder if the FIAT Jeeps will be making fun of the new ones when they're owned by Peugeot?

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Ever hear of the Mahindra Roxor? CJ5 clone with a turbo charged diesel 4 cyl, assembled in the USA and licensed for production by Jeep.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Mahi...w=1366&bih=671
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Ever hear of the Mahindra Roxor? CJ5 clone with a turbo charged diesel 4 cyl and assembled in the USA.
Those are very cool, but not currently street legal.
We don't trailer our rigs, but if we did that would be a good option.

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Those are very cool, but not currently street legal.
We don't trailer our rigs, but if we did that would be a good option.

Moving this to the general section.
Don't know where you live but in South Carolina they are street legal. A tune put in the computer can raise the HP to 120+ Hp and top speed to 70+ mph... I forget the torque rating after the tune. All this is comparable to the 2.5 found in CJ, Yj and Tj's. And half the price of a JK.
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Don't know where you live but in South Carolina they are street legal. A tune put in the computer can raise the HP to 120+ Hp and top speed to 70+ mph... I forget the torque rating after the tune. All this is comparable to the 2.5 found in CJ, Yj and Tj's. And half the price of a JK.

Hmm wonder why it's legal there? As a company they state they're not road legal in North America.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...t-legal-status

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Ever hear of the Mahindra Roxor? CJ5 clone with a turbo charged diesel 4 cyl, assembled in the USA and licensed for production by Jeep.

As much as i hate the JK and JL i probbaly hate the Mahindra Roxor more. I think i would rather have anything built by the Italians or French over something built in a third world hell hole by Indians.

The Roxor does have a lot less wiring and things to go wrong i will give it that. But if i wanted to spend 20k on a sxs i would buy one preferably made in Japan, I know how bad the quality is on Polaris RZR's. I would not spend 20K on a sxs with leaf springs just because it looks kinda like a jeep.
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Silentfoe, get your panties out of a wad. Its meant to be humorous. I OWN an 08 JK with the minivan motor ON 35s with a dana 30! If you can"t see that Im sorry. And if I need to be specific with you obviously that doesn't apply to everyone but apparently you cant read between the lines. However if you want to tell me you can't see exactly what was being implied, well thats on you.

I do think its very interesting how different the two group of owners is. I have one of each and have no problem with the way things are. But if you only had a YJ you would think its the end of the world to drive on a dana 30 and 35s but its perfectly acceptable with the JK guys. Its funny no YJ guys got all tore up about it, when CLEARLY you can run 35s on a Dana 30, and even 37s so it seems!

On a side note, my minivan motor keeps me from destroying my jeep on 35s because it can't deliver massive power and torque to my axles and snap something as easy, so it seems to be a working combination. Man lighten up!

Blue, I was in no way saying JK owners dont wheel, just looking at the post. Ive got the older dana 30 and as of right now, its handling the tires just fine. I do plan to sleeve and gusset the axle and regear in the next few months, but it obviously is working. Love the pics, your wifes jeep is awesome. Not sure why everyone got so freaking offended? The vast majority of videos online are 4 door jeeps now. I mean, I did state that I bought one and I love the thing.

You know, when I rode bikes I had a street bike and a cruiser and cruisers only waved to cruisers and street bikes to streetbikes. I never cared, as long as you were on 2 wheels you got a wave. SAME HERE, I dont care how pretty your rig is, how stock it is, how built it is or how many light bars you have, if you have it out in the dirt, congrats, and if you want it just because it looks good, kudos to you too. I just went to windrock and rode with a guy in a completely stock Sahara and we had a great time. IT was also impressive to see what that thing could do stock!
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I OWN an 08 JK with the minivan motor ON 35s with a dana 30!
So, you have the underpowered 3.8L, 202 HP engine and are putting that in the same category as the 3.6L 285 HP engine in the newer JKs? Those two are not even close, in addition to many other improvements made since 2008. I bet you still drive a manual, too.
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Hmm wonder why it's legal there? As a company they state they're not road legal in North America.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...t-legal-status
They can be made street legal almost anywhere. There are places that sell kits to do so. Even the dealer sells all required parts to make them legal.

https://www.dirtlegal.com/blog/2018/...-your-marriage

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Dirt Legal is one of the few companies able to reliably make the Mahindra Roxor street legal. From golf carts to military Humvees, we’ve seen it all."

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Actually Roadi,you are correct! the YJ is manual, but the 08 is automatic. Its easier to wheel, and to make it more interesting, the YJ is for sale. In your haste to reply you must have overlooked the point, the 08 is clearly weaker than current JKs and its still functioning without blowing up.
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Actually Roadi,you are correct! the YJ is manual, but the 08 is automatic. Its easier to wheel, and to make it more interesting, the YJ is for sale. In your haste to reply you must have overlooked the point, the 08 is clearly weaker than current JKs and its still functioning without blowing up.

But does it have Stow-and-Go seating?
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Are you serious? You must be reading a very different forum. To say "EVERY SINGLE" capitalized, is very specific, which is absolutely not true

It's also funny to read the hyperbole about a "minivan" engine. Trying to dismiss the engine because it is also used in a minivan is hilarious. It is the most popular mopar engine that is used in many vehicles. It's potent, reliable and delivers great power and torque.

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Not sure your overall point here is am LGBT YJ, do you approve this mom built if for her son...we love it
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