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Old 07-21-2019, 12:01 PM
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2018 JKU Sahara Lift Suggestions

2018 Wrangler Sahara JKU - 4dr: Looking for a lift 3.5" suspension (no body) that will allow for 35" tires and a smoother ride then the stock suspension. Also, with the 35" tires is it suggested that I change my gearing? If so please include that...

Looking for opinions / experiences etc so that I might learn from you all before repeating any mistakes... plus want to know how much $$ to have saved to get this done all at once...

Thanks in advance and dont be afraid to share pictures... all information is valuable info:

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Old 07-22-2019, 08:43 AM   #3
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Why 3.5" lift for 35's?

I have a 2.5" Rubicon Express lift installed on my JKUWW and still 3.73 stock gears.

I know when I go to 35's I need to re-gear to 4.11 or a little bit
more. But the 2.5" lift is plenty for 35's My lift installed was about 1400.00 CAD ( you don't have your location in your profile for us to help).


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Once you go 3.5", you need to swap out more parts. I am not up for that any time soon. But it's up to you.



I do highway driving so higher than that is a waste of gas money to me.
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You can run 35" tires with a 2.5" lift. If you want a 3.5" lift, fine. But for that size tire a 2.5" lift will clear them. A 3.5" lift is more expensive, and opens up more potential issues. If money is a concern I would suggest a 2.5" lift. You can do a quality 2.5" lift for around a grand in parts, where as a similar 3.5" lift is easily twice that.
It really depends on what you are going to do with the Jeep as to which brand lift (whether 2.5" or 3.5"). I would suggest AEV, TeraFlex (including the TeraFlex based Most Popular Lift on the Wrangler Forum), and Metal CLoak. There is also a guy who sells a hybrid OME / JKS lift that I hear really good things about.
Most lifts benefit from adding a few extra parts to finish them out. And that is why I am a fan of the Most Popular Lift on the Wrangler Forum, it has it built into the "lift" the option to add those parts as desired. But you can do that with an AEV lift just as easily (just don't tell them you are doing so).
As for gearing and 35" tires, the first question is what gearing do you have to start with. Modern Jeeps come with 3.21, 3.73, or 4.10 gears, depending. If you have 4.10 gears you may be happy with 35's, but I would still recommend gears. If you have 3.73 gears, you may be OK with 35's, but more so if you live where it is flat and close to sea level. If you have 3.21 gears you should absolutely regear. If you re-gear, the two common options are 4.56 and 4.88 gears. Which one is right for you depends, and while both are better than not re-gearing, the differences between the two are fairly small. If you go to 4.56 gears for 35" tires you are like going to be happy, as long as you don't decide later you want 37" tires. If you go with 4.88 gears you will have a little more acceleration and power, at the expense of turning a couple hundred more rpm on the highway.
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Awesome help y'all. I am turning to the 2.5 lift and will have to look at what my current gearing is. Shouldnt be hard to figure out - 2018 JKU Sahara so I am sure I can find that on the website... I do really appreciate all the time and effort you all put into helping me out... I will mostly use this for road use... as they say if I am off road it's not on purpose. Someday perhaps (when paid off) an adventure in mudding etc will be possible ... but this is my daily driver and I am looking for a better quality ride along with just a better equipped (looking) setup.

Again thanks for all the help... I do appreciate it
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I would look at AEV. It is my understanding they may a really nice 2.5” lift with fantastic road manners.
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Awesome help y'all. I am turning to the 2.5 lift and will have to look at what my current gearing is. Shouldnt be hard to figure out - 2018 JKU Sahara so I am sure I can find that on the website... I do really appreciate all the time and effort you all put into helping me out... I will mostly use this for road use... as they say if I am off road it's not on purpose. Someday perhaps (when paid off) an adventure in mudding etc will be possible ... but this is my daily driver and I am looking for a better quality ride along with just a better equipped (looking) setup.

Again thanks for all the help... I do appreciate it
For great on road performance, AEV lifts have a great reputation. My sister in-laws JK has one. The only issue I have with their stuff is the need to add things to it, in my opinion it is not as complete a lift as it should be. But I reckon that it really depends on how picky you are. I am pretty picky.
But an AEV 2.5" DualSport XT lift plus a set of geometry brackets to correct castor (either AEV brackets or Rancho brackets, I prefer the Rancho brackets) would be a good start.
Another great option is the Mopar 2" lift, which is really a 2.5" lift (and like most 2.5" lifts it is closer to a 3" lift). As with the AEV 2.5" lift, I would add a set of geometry brackets. I would not use the cam bolts that come with the Mopar lift. The geometry brackets will correct castor AND improve the ride quality.
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Wow, the opinions on this site are as varied as everyone's jeep. Too many options.

I went with a recommendation from my local 4x4 shop. These guys wheel every weekend and have tried everything on the market. Me? I know only what I read here and I don't have a bucket of money sitting on the floor beside me.

Find a good install shop, they will stand behind the job they do. It's too important to just do it yourself unless you have done it before. My safety and my family is more important that a few bucks saved for an install. (Actually, my shop installed if for cash to save the tax on the labor).

FYI, My 2016 JKUWW still rides exactly the same as it did before the lift. It's just taller and requires a small jump to get in with my short legs and long torso.

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2018 Wrangler Sahara JKU - 4dr: Looking for a lift 3.5" suspension (no body) that will allow for 35" tires and a smoother ride then the stock suspension. Also, with the 35" tires is it suggested that I change my gearing? If so please include that...

Looking for opinions / experiences etc so that I might learn from you all before repeating any mistakes... plus want to know how much $$ to have saved to get this done all at once...

Thanks in advance and dont be afraid to share pictures... all information is valuable info:
You can definitely run 35's on a 2.5, but a proper 3.5 isn't out of the question. I personally like the look of the a little more fender clearance.

For what you describe, the AEV 3.5 Dual Sport SC is an excellent choice. @jadmt can chime in with good feedback on his.

I do think gearing is critical for a good experience with big tires. Your Sahara might have 3.73, but that's still too high for 35's in my opinion. I went to 4.56 and am very happy. If I lived at higher elevation, I would have gone 4.88.

As for local shops doing your install, that's up to you. It's not hard, but does take time and some tools that some people don't have. Remember, we are enthusiasts here on WF... We are not making money off of you. Our recommendations aren't guided by profit.
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I'm going to back up the truck here a bit. <beep beep beep> Ok, you say you want a lift and 35's for a smoother ride. You won't get that by doing those things, period. If you want a smoother ride, you'd be best off keeping the height stock and looking for wider tires that are no higher than stock. That said, a Wrangler is certainly not something I'd have in a sentence along with "smooth ride".
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I went with the Mopar 2 inch lift and added rancho Geo brackets and a yeti adjustable track bar. Ride to me is better than stock and I no longer need NFL concussion protocol when I hit a speed bump or pot hole. This lift as is, netted about 3-1/4 inches.
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