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Old 04-10-2014, 09:51 PM
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Post Advice on upcoming project please

Ok so a JK is within grasp at this point in my life. However, I don't like the electrical systems in the newer
Jeeps. I need some tips and advice on my mental image dream Jeep:

I want to buy a JK Sport or Sahara with factory upgraded axles, but not a Rubicon.
I want to remove the factory engine and drivetrain and swap for a GM Motor and everything that goes with that
(please remind me of the biggest concerns here!)
I want to have as few wires or cables as possible on the entire rig, just battery to alternator to starter etc,
other than a fuse block for accessories, lights n all that, perfectly simple to troubleshoot and repair on the fly.
May have to get an older style motor? with non electric cooling, carbureted, non-electric lockers...
I wouldn't consider myself an auto mechanic but I can do just about anything with my YJ.

The point is to have the simplest, turn-key-and-go dependable, easy to work on, invincible, low-maintenance,
immune-to-EMP bugout Jeep (basically!) The ability to have all electrical destroyed, and have it back to 100% in a
short amount of time. Have everything other than the starter run through Precision Design's sPOD system or similar
unit. Engine and all other components must be of simple design, like a Jeep should be! That's the problem with JK's
but the physical designs are nice!

Maybe I could just go with a base model and find a nice wrecked Gm truck to salvage most of the parts I would need.
Parting out the fatory JK stuff would offset the cost alot there.
Then upgrade suspension parts etc. however I want.

I know this endeavour is no small task, will require welding and fabrication, more shop tools than I own, and
$thousands even after offset cost.

But I know it is plausible. I will appreciate all thoughts, tips, advice, and suggestions. Has anyone seen a rig
similar to what I describe? Where should I start? What are some not-so-obvious key issues with this project?

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Old 04-11-2014, 01:21 AM   #2
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base sport. And tear it open...

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Simple call Motec.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:41 PM
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@Puddlesplasher

Yeah either or a Sport or just the Base model (is it called SE or X?)
Because would it be in my best interest to fit full size GM axles under it?
Already compatible with my Engine, just weld perches and everything accordingly.

@caryt

Motec makes high-tech electronics that I don't want any part of with this project.
I am looking for simplistic, minimalistic. All mechanical devices, not electrical. Other than wench, lights, CB, etc., which will all be wired from a single power supply unit.

All necessary engine status gauges (speedo, oil pressure, temp) can be mechanical, non-electric.

I don't need super high performance, just dependability.
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If cost is no concern and 'non-electric' why not an older diesel?

And in a post-EMP world, where is any fuel coming from, let alone a host of other daily necessities?

You're talking about building a basic motorized Bug Out Bag. The choices are numerous, the skills & costs are extensive, and the excitement of doing such has to be real satisfaction should the project be completed.

Suitable secure warehousing of supportive supplies seem to be part of the project.

I read a story a few years ago about a guy that did similar in the Colorado back country, and IIRC decided on older diesel Land Rovers.

About mid-70s is where the Silicon Life Forms began infesting domestic automotive design, IIRC.

Good luck, keep us posted.
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Old 04-12-2014, 02:34 PM
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Thanks Jake! Yeah that's good info, an older diesel might be the way to go. As for all the other necessities, well I guess if I can't find enough to survive then there's nothing else to worry about anyway! Can you link that article? I wouldn't do land rover though, I live here in the mountains and there are trails here that ONLY a Jeep or Razor or racing quad/dirtbike can climb (I would love to see a Rover in our pack one day though just to see!)

However, I think if done right the first time, and not rushed or hurried too much, other than the base cost of the Jeep, the total cost doesn't have to be outrageous. I can tear it down to chassis, body, axles, suspension and steering by myself for free. Just find the perfect engine/drivetrain and fit it in, and re do the rest myself.. All done by adequately skilled and experienced hands, it should go smooth and quick and not break my piggy bank.
Am I wrong? Am I missing something fundamental? Jeeps are the ultimate for engine swaps, hell there is probably a bolt-on kit for what I want! lol jk (pun intended)
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You would be better off getting a pre smog whatever and building what your looking for rather than wasting ton's of $ modding a new one.

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