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Old 05-15-2015, 02:46 PM
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Question Another Wheel Spacer Thread

Of all the posts on wheel spacers, I actually cannot find anything on the particular question I'm curious about.

A purchased Poison Spyder 1.5" Wheel Spacers a while back and have not put them on (yet). Of course, now I see all of the 'hype' around the SpiderTrax spacers and even their review on some "un-named" adapter that claims to use the same materials however analysis of the metal shows that it is not the same.

Anyway, my question. Does anyone here actually have first hand experience using Poison Spyder Wheel Spacers where they broke, caused damage, etc. - basically negative reviews.

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Old 05-15-2015, 04:27 PM   #2
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I understand your safety concerns but Poison Spyder has makes quality gear and I see no reason why the spacers would be any different. Besides if you inspect and torque them regularly as in when you rotate your tires you will be fine. The most likely failure points are the studs and the spacer is hub centric which offloads the studs. A sudden catastrophic failure of the whole spacer would require severe neglect and extreme loads. The damage the spacers create is more subtle in the form of loads on bearings, seals and change in the scrub radius (which many like to believe that it is irrelevant).

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Old 05-15-2015, 04:49 PM   #3
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Probably the main issue with a wheel spacer is when these aren't removed prior to installation: http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/disc-brakes/DSC09396.jpg Other than that, follow the installation instructions and you'll be fine.
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I have them on mine. No issues. I had similar concerns as you. I encourage you to use a torque wrench to verify correct torque on the spacers. You'll need a deep 3/4 inch socket for the spacer nuts. Make sure to use the locktite provided.

I've checked mine periodically when I rotate my tires and they have not loosened or moved.

When you check the torque (after installation), make sure you don't go above the actual prescribed torque you used when you put them on or you may break the locktite. Then you'll have to re-do the locktite and re-torque to spec.
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I drove with them for years; never had any issues. They are quality products.

As others have said: you need to be careful with their torqueing and you should be fine.

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...I encourage you to use a torque wrench to verify correct torque on the spacers. You'll need a deep 3/4 inch socket for the spacer nuts. Make sure to use the locktite provided.

I've checked mine periodically when I rotate my tires and they have not loosened or moved.

When you check the torque (after installation), make sure you don't go above the actual prescribed torque you used when you put them on or you may break the locktite. Then you'll have to re-do the locktite and re-torque to spec.
This is a good reason to use a paint pen to put witness lines on the nuts. Then you can visually inspect the nuts.

I honestly believe folks who trash talk spacers must be wheel salespeople, because there is absolutely no reason to not use a quality hub-centric spacer.
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Old 05-16-2015, 11:37 AM   #7
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I ran them for 6 months. I installed as directed, including removing all the retaining clips on the lugs, and checked torque several times. The torque was always good. In fact, getting them off when I put on new wheels and tires was a bitch. Loc-tite works. The Jeep felt a bit more stable thanks to the wider stance but otherwise I couldn't tell I was running them.

You probably won't find too many negative reviews. Every problem I've seen with the spacers (actually wheel offset adapters, by the way) were from improper installation and usually that was not removing the retaining clips (not a big deal, they are for factory assembly and nothing else). Not doing that can be catastrophic. Otherwise, they are good to go.

Tereflex has a good video on the adapters that might help:

https://youtu.be/3Z8oA9AZWJ4

For the record, Teraflex adapters are 1.25 inches. The Spidertrax are 1.5 and you should not have a problem with the wheel studs extending past the mounting surface of the spacer as is shown in the video. I didn't.
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Thank you everyone for your input. I installed them, took the for a quick spin (10 or so miles), checked the torque, all was good. Did it again at 100 miles. Again, all good!
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I've had them on mine for a while now with 37s and hard wheeling. The main thing people mess up is when they re-torque them they don't dial the wrench back 5lbs and they break the loctite that was holding them.
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The damage the spacers create is more subtle in the form of loads on bearings, seals and change in the scrub radius (which many like to believe that it is irrelevant).
You didn't mention it, but I'm sure you're aware that whatever damage is induced by spacers is exactly the same with aftermarket wheels whose backspacing gives the same offset as the spacers. In other words, your bearings, seals, scrub radius etc. don't know whether you have spacers or new wheels.

Like I said, I'm sure you know this, Spinlock, but a lot of people will think that "damage" is solely a product of the spacers, when it's actually the geometry itself that causes it.

If any measurable damage actually occurs. Hard to say if it's more than theoretical when you're talking 1.5" spacers.
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I drove with them for years; never had any issues. They are quality products.

As others have said: you need to be careful with their torqueing and you should be fine.

Good luck,

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I torqued mine (with lock tite) at 90 and felt I had more wrench so I tightened a little more with the breaker bar.

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