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Old 01-20-2020, 03:30 PM
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Antirock vs No sway bar

A little backstory...

So for the last 6-8 months I’ve been driving my jeep with my sway bar ALWAYS disconnected.

Recently while out snow wheeling I came sliding sideways to a stop after approaching a slippery downhill section with way too much speed and it really made me think about the chance of a rollover.

I’ve also noticed my jeep literally being blown around on the highway in high winds. A lightweight 2 door mixed with no sway bar makes for a scary drive.. and now that i’ll be driving on the highway a lot more for school, i’m looking at the front rockjock (currie) antirock sway bar.



THE QUESTION...

My sway bar no longer stays up on its own so it’s tied up and my links are stock length so probably shouldn’t be used with the ~3” total lift I now have up front.

Links are anywhere from $150 to over $200 and I see the front antirock for $650 so quite an investment and I’m just wondering if anyone has gone from no sway bar to an antirock INSTEAD of going from connected to an antirock like most people.

*****I want to know if it will be a noticeable improvement over no sway bar or not!

Thank you and leave any questions below if my write up didn’t make sense 🙂

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That price seems high! But yes, you will see a difference. In your case it will firm up the body roll. It is great on road and help off road.

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That price seems high! But yes, you will see a difference. In your case it will firm up the body roll. It is great on road and help off road.

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That’s what I like to hear, getting back my on road drivability while not limiting off-roadability is the goal!

And for price, yeah it’s high but i’m in canada so there are very few options for ordering parts and that price is also in CAD
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Curious to hear others opinions on the Antirock... don't hear much about them here
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I went disconnects first and ended up getting antirocks anyway. They are definitely the best option. I think the on road driving in actually improved over stock. A lot of my driving is on rough roads and I feel like I have way less body roll at speed going over bumps and holes.
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I'm very happy with my Antirock.

I know some have said that they see excessive body roll but that's not my experience. I do not miss my stock sway bar nor do I see any loss of flex on the trails over simply being disconnected.
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Antirock front and back on a light two door here.

4 1/2 inches of actual suspension lift from a 3.5 AEV.

MUCH better ride than stock, only a little more body roll than stock sway bar connected, not noticed any significant difference off road, AWESOME setup on long rough trails. Feels solid on the freeway at 70.
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I went disconnects first and ended up getting antirocks anyway. They are definitely the best option. I think the on road driving in actually improved over stock. A lot of my driving is on rough roads and I feel like I have way less body roll at speed going over bumps and holes.
Rough roads are very common up here in canada with our 8 months of winter and currently some big bumps will like throw my jeep and make it feel like i have to fight to keep it in the lane.

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I'm very happy with my Antirock.

I know some have said that they see excessive body roll but that's not my experience. I do not miss my stock sway bar nor do I see any loss of flex on the trails over simply being disconnected.
that’s good to hear, stock like feeling with the same off-road ability is why people seem to love these so much

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Antirock front and back on a light two door here.

4 1/2 inches of actual suspension lift from a 3.5 AEV.

MUCH better ride than stock, only a little more body roll than stock sway bar connected, not noticed any significant difference off road, AWESOME setup on long rough trails. Feels solid on the freeway at 70.
Curious if your jeep is noticeably looser with the front and rear antirock now. I only have a 2” lift with a pick up front but I wouldn’t want to make the whole jeep sway when I turned the wheel but I feel like the rear antirock could be a good option to reduce the ass end getting thrown when hitting a bump on one side of the road.
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A little backstory...

So for the last 6-8 months I’ve been driving my jeep with my sway bar ALWAYS disconnected.

Recently while out snow wheeling I came sliding sideways to a stop after approaching a slippery downhill section with way too much speed and it really made me think about the chance of a rollover.

I’ve also noticed my jeep literally being blown around on the highway in high winds. A lightweight 2 door mixed with no sway bar makes for a scary drive.. and now that i’ll be driving on the highway a lot more for school, i’m looking at the front rockjock (currie) antirock sway bar.



THE QUESTION...

My sway bar no longer stays up on its own so it’s tied up and my links are stock length so probably shouldn’t be used with the ~3” total lift I now have up front.

Links are anywhere from $150 to over $200 and I see the front antirock for $650 so quite an investment and I’m just wondering if anyone has gone from no sway bar to an antirock INSTEAD of going from connected to an antirock like most people.

*****I want to know if it will be a noticeable improvement over no sway bar or not!

Thank you and leave any questions below if my write up didn’t make sense 🙂
ANY sway bar (antirock or otherwise) will limit suspension travel both on and off road because that's what they are specifically designed to do.... and off-road you don't want to restrict suspension travel... which is why they came up with disconnects.


Sway bars control body roll by restricting spring/shock expansion/compression of one axle spring relative to the spring/shock on the other side of the axle. If you have weak, cushy springs then you need a strong sway bar to prevent excessive expansion/contraction differences. If you have tough springs then you need little to no sway bar at all. Indeed sway bars weren't really even a part of the automotive world until the introduction of the "Cadillac ride". Soft spongy springs which provided a great ride but were downright dangerous in a 'swerve and brake' emergency.


Anyway, the long and short of it is that how much sway bar is required in a give case is wholly and completely dependent on how strong your springs are and how anti reactive your shocks are. Given that, and in your case where you're feeling unsafe on the trails with no sway bar, then I would suggest the springs and/or shocks are your REAL issue.


You can use an anitrock to cover up the real issue if you want in much the same way people try to cover up their steering issues with a stronger stabilizer, but it's not really something I would do.


I should add that I operate with no sway bars at all.... but then I have the TF 3" sport lift (tough springs) with the falcon 3.3 shocks. I don't need too much in the way of spring dampening control.
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Curious if your jeep is noticeably looser with the front and rear antirock now. I only have a 2” lift with a pick up front but I wouldn’t want to make the whole jeep sway when I turned the wheel but I feel like the rear antirock could be a good option to reduce the ass end getting thrown when hitting a bump on one side of the road.
Can't speak specifically to this because I have the stock sway bar. But from the research I have done, they rear sway bar is much thinner (not as stiff) as the front on a JK. Therefore the change is even less noticeable between stock and the antirock. Again, I don't have personal experience on that, but I can say after I installed the front I haven't felt the need to do the rear.
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Rough roads are very common up here in canada with our 8 months of winter and currently some big bumps will like throw my jeep and make it feel like i have to fight to keep it in the lane.

that’s good to hear, stock like feeling with the same off-road ability is why people seem to love these so much

Curious if your jeep is noticeably looser with the front and rear antirock now. I only have a 2” lift with a pick up front but I wouldn’t want to make the whole jeep sway when I turned the wheel but I feel like the rear antirock could be a good option to reduce the ass end getting thrown when hitting a bump on one side of the road.
The whole Jeep does not feel like it sways when I turn the wheel. I never disconnected the rear sway bar so no comparison there. Cornering is pretty close to stock - the only place I really notice anything different is when changing from turning sharply one direction to sharply the other (chicane?) where the additional roll is noticeable.

I'm not sure what you mean by looser. The whole Jeep floats over pretty much any terrain much better than stock - the rear is much more stable and does not bounce around in the situation you describe. I'm not sure how much of that is due to the Antirock and how much is the AEV suspension which is tuned to overlanding. The rear Antirock moves the pivot point to behind the axle rather than in front and as a result has longer arms.

My wife thinks it is "springier" - you do get a little more return as the suspension returns from compressed. Again may be the AEV suspension rather than the Antirock.

I think Bob makes an excellent point that the combination of springs/shocks/sway bar will determine the ride you get. Personally I like the combination I have - great on the road, great on the trail and good enough articulation for any rocks I'm willing to try I find it hard to believe that all the pros who run Antirock are covering up issues with their shocks and springs though
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Interesting article - I can say it is true to my experience with front and rear Antirock and some words from the man himself - although he obviously has a financial interest in selling Antirock

https://wranglerforum.com/threads/ho...rformance.197/
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I use an Off Road Only Sway Loc. I love the thing. Tighter in on road mode and awesome in off road mode. Really best of both world in my opinion. I have the manual switch version. If someone really need a push button switch inside the cab they make that too. The off road mode is smother than being disconnected. I get a full yet controlled flex all the way to the bump stops.
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I use an Off Road Only Sway Loc. I love the thing. Tighter in on road mode and awesome in off road mode. Really best of both world in my opinion. I have the manual switch version. If someone really need a push button switch inside the cab they make that too. The off road mode is smother than being disconnected. I get a full yet controlled flex all the way to the bump stops.
Great addition! Nice to see alternatives! This looks great.

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