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Old 11-16-2019, 11:53 PM
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Bad steering box?

I think my steering box is bad? Could be alignment? But I got it to go away after greasing tie rod/drag link/ball joints. 3 weeks after it went away;it’s back.

My wheel is just sticking after a turn to whichever side I was turning. This happened a few weeks ago, and because of a surgery, I hadn’t driven the Jeep much. I figured I just needed to grease the tie rod/drag link ends/and ball joints. After doing so, the problem was fixed and I thought, “phew! That was easy”. I started daily driving it again, went wheeling twice, and everything seemed fine... until this evening. It’s been 3 weeks, and it’s been driving fine all day. We get out of a movie and stiff sticky steering is back.
  • Checked PS fluid level - levels are good
  • Removed steering stabilizer - didn’t help
  • Checked PS Pump area - no signs of leakage or sounds of bad PS Pump

So when I checked the steering box I saw what could be a seal leak? I definitely hear the steering box “working” (it’s not a bad noise, but like hearing it react to moving the steering wheel).

What do y’all think? Any suggestions? Thanks much

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Old 11-17-2019, 06:58 AM   #2
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Caster is what causes your steering wheel to return to center. If you think you have a bad box I'd suggest disconnecting the input shaft and drag link at the pitman arm and turning it by hand to see if you feel anywhere that it hangs up. I don't think a seal leak would cause what you're describing.

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Old 11-17-2019, 08:19 AM
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Caster is what causes your steering wheel to return to center. If you think you have a bad box I'd suggest disconnecting the input shaft and drag link at the pitman arm and turning it by hand to see if you feel anywhere that it hangs up. I don't think a seal leak would cause what you're describing.
I understand thatís what caster does, but Iíve never had a problem with my caster angle. It drove great after the lift. Iíve got adjustable CAs on a 2.5Ē lift, and this problem never existed after 3 years of being lifted. I didnít think caster would be able to change without me purposely changing it?

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Also just to get ahead of some of the culprits:
  • Ball joints - teraflex adjustable, been in for least a few thousand miles totally broke in
  • Tie rod - synergy, been greased with their recommended high end grease
  • Drag link - synergy, same as above
  • Trackbar - synergy, same as above
  • Lift - rock krawler X factor 2.5” adjustable

I hated to start another “I have a steering problem” thread. I’ve just checked the usual suspects and not entirely sure what other bad could cause it. I’m tempted to grease the ends again, but I also don’t want that covering up a potential bigger issue. Greasing every 3 weeks seems excessive? Christmas is around the corner and the Jeep has to make it across country twice.

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Is there something I can do to test they are where my problem is? I checked them for damage but Iíll dig around more
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Although I've never seen a bad front axle u-joint cause steering binding I suppose it could be possible. Like I suggested above, disconnect the steering at the pitman arm and with the Jeep off the ground cycle the steering wheel to feel for binding. Also grab the tire and turn the wheels from lock to lock to feel for any binding.
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Although I've never seen a bad front axle u-joint cause steering binding I suppose it could be possible. Like I suggested above, disconnect the steering at the pitman arm and with the Jeep off the ground cycle the steering wheel to feel for binding. Also grab the tire and turn the wheels from lock to lock to feel for any binding.
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So weird enough this ended up being crazy tight ball joints. I didn’t torque them at all, so it is weird they got tight. The shop tried to loosen and retorque with no luck so they are being warrantied by teraflex.
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So weird enough this ended up being crazy tight ball joints. I didnít torque them at all, so it is weird they got tight. The shop tried to loosen and retorque with no luck so they are being warrantied by teraflex.
Wow I've never heard of that happening before. Glad you got it figured out.
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Wow I've never heard of that happening before. Glad you got it figured out.
Had this happen on an f350 before....very weird indeed....

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