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Old 02-20-2017, 12:00 PM
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Best - popular 2.5 lift kit

OK, I have these items in my ordering basket and I am getting ready to buy them. I hope some one can give me last second advise.

Items IN basket:
TF 2.5 kit 1351000
Rancho RS9000XL shocks 329/330
Rancho caster brackets 62103
TF Exhaust spacer Kit
JKS adj. front track bar XXX121
Procal

Is this everything I need?
Is this better than the AEV Kit for $1000?

I have a 2016 JKsport. Daily driver, no off roading. Wanting Plush Ride.

My only concern is if I purchase full armor later. People say I will drop some with TF. AEV people said that I wouldn't drop any? Also, why isn't exhaust spacer kit needed for AEV lift but are needed on all other lift
kits? Getting ready to push the button hope I am getting the right thing??????
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Not a fan of Teraflex lifts. Also had pro quality and CS with heir tire carrier. But they are popular springs. Rancho sucks are too plush for me and their new brackets will give you an excellent ride.

My AEV 2.5 kits did to steel te almost at ll with a Poison Spyder Mid Brawler Bumper and skid plate. Installed just over 3" of lift/. After settling just over 2.5" of height.
Some feel the Bilstein shocks are stiff, but after 800-100 miles, mine flelt as plush as my stock Sahara shocks, but much more complaint, better handling, etc.

So feels like stock, but much better handling. So not plush nor stiff. Handles on road like a sports SUV and off road very well for MY needs.

But never heard Terfalex on on road manners.

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AEV doesn't need the exhaust spacer because they use a short front shock. This is not an issue on road at all, but it does limit off road capability a little.

As for ride quality, it's very subjective and what you like, I might not like...

But, the TF springs with the 9000XL's is a very good combo and can be tuned pretty plush. The AEV Bilstein's ride a bit firm for me, but tons of people love them. Use the top hole in the Rancho brackets.

While there are springs that handle weight better than others, they will all lose some height to added weight.
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I have a 2013 JKU with the AEV 2.5 XT and geometry correction brackets. Rides the same as my wife's stock sport.
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Darn...Darn...Darn...Still havnt pushed the button yet!!!!

Basically between the two kits the parts are the same except the springs and the shocks. I could get the TF kit with the same 5100 Bilstein shocks for $100 less. That would just leave the springs - correct? Except for the harshness when hitting a bump or pothole I like the way the jeep drives. With the TF kit I am saving about $180 over the AEV kit but I am not worried about the money as long as I get the right kit for me. Why does AEV never discount their product? How can they compete with similar products that offer discounts?
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I am in the same boat and decided to go with the AEV and a monster trac bar along with the sway bar links...just seems like those are the missing parts with the aev lift..
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Darn...Darn...Darn...Still havnt pushed the button yet!!!!

Basically between the two kits the parts are the same except the springs and the shocks. I could get the TF kit with the same 5100 Bilstein shocks for $100 less. That would just leave the springs - correct? Except for the harshness when hitting a bump or pothole I like the way the jeep drives. With the TF kit I am saving about $180 over the AEV kit but I am not worried about the money as long as I get the right kit for me. Why does AEV never discount their product? How can they compete with similar products that offer discounts?
AEV puts their effort in to marketing their products. They aren't really trying to compete on price even though I would say that they are still comparable to many similar kits.

I think you'll find that the Rancho's will ride better than the Bilstein's if that is a really important thing to you.

AEV is a great kit, but not the be all end all... But there isn't a kit that's perfect for everyone.
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Darn...Darn...Darn...Still havnt pushed the button yet!!!!

Basically between the two kits the parts are the same except the springs and the shocks. I could get the TF kit with the same 5100 Bilstein shocks for $100 less. That would just leave the springs - correct? Except for the harshness when hitting a bump or pothole I like the way the jeep drives. With the TF kit I am saving about $180 over the AEV kit but I am not worried about the money as long as I get the right kit for me. Why does AEV never discount their product? How can they compete with similar products that offer discounts?

Agree with Pressurized, not every kit/lift is for everyone. I listed a lot to people here and several vendors and suspension folks. AEV was for ME. Rides in a way, like a stock Sahara but WAY better road handling and overall feel.
Not plush, not too stiff (subjective) but does great for me off road.

You want PLUSH go Rancho. To me flat mushy and like a little feedback. Don't want a Cadillac.
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I am in the same boat and decided to go with the AEV and a monster trac bar along with the sway bar links...just seems like those are the missing parts with the aev lift..
Depends on your use or needs. I say try stock and change over as needed. For my Geo brackets are fine and tram-bar works. But think going to change Trac-Bar soon for piece of mind. Sway link will stay for now. Too good on road and don't need clearence that new links will give. If and when needed, I will follow the good advice here.Think sometimes we ALL can overthink our builds and not everyone needs to sed so much. Think I capable a stock Jeep is to begin with.
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AEV puts their effort in to marketing their products. They aren't really trying to compete on price even though I would say that they are still comparable to many similar kits.

I think you'll find that the Rancho's will ride better than the Bilstein's if that is a really important thing to you.

AEV is a great kit, but not the be all end all... But there isn't a kit that's perfect for everyone.
A lot of companies won't or don't need to compete on pricing. saw this a LOT in the cycling world. Sometimes always discounting your stuff, DOES make your stuff seem overpriced to begin with and makes it look cheaper in the long run. Don't know what AEV's markup is so can't comment. But they are a business and seems like they don't NEED to discount to move stuff. May vendors have too.

Take a Teraflex HD carrier. Look at MSRP and then what you can get form a vendor here or eBay. makes you think they are overpriced to begin with or passing off ok stuff at higher costs to unsuspecting people.

Many of these manufactures that dont mark down, sell well and find ZERO need.
Look at Rapha or Assos in cycling. Chris King, among others.
Apple or Samsung?

I never though my AEV 2.5 kit was priced high or low at $1000 shipped free.
Everything similar was within a $100 or so up or down. some $300-400 higher and more than I ever need. Some guess could have been cheaper, but better for $100-150 less?
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OK I think my mind is made up. I am giving myself until Friday to push the button. I am thinking AEV 2.5 as originally planned.

Can someone educate me about triple rate springs and linear springs. How they function and which is better? Which will hold more weight without sag?

I will definitely get the geometry brackets and procal, unless people think flashCal is better. What are thoughts about front track bar? Do I really need one? If I get one, will probably get JKS.

Saw my first JK where I knew what lift the guy got. He got a 2.5 procomp lift which netted him over 3" of lift. This will be perfect height for me.
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Check out this video from TeraFlex. It was posted a while back by someone else and they go through the different types of coil spring rates.Spring Rates
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I pushed the button today. Went with AEV kit with geometry brackets and jks adj front track bar.
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I pushed the button today. Went with AEV kit with geometry brackets and jks adj front track bar.


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I pushed the button today. Went with AEV kit with geometry brackets and jks adj front track bar.
DO you have a link to everything you bought? I am getting quite confused as to what else i need to buy besides the lift kit itself.
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DO you have a link to everything you bought? I am getting quite confused as to what else i need to buy besides the lift kit itself.

You don't need much with the AEV kit.
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AEV or Rancho Geo Brackets
Procal or Flashcal for Speedo.

That's the basics. Any dealer selling you this kit will suggest these. If not, find a new Vendor. I personally recommend the guys at Rubitrux when it comes to AEV. They will get you what you need.

The extras that you think you might need would be:
Steering Stabilizer (I got with Rubitrux recommendation. OME for cheap.)
Lower Control Arms instead of Brackets
Front Adjust Tracbar
Rear Tracbar

Again discuss with your vendor or who I suggested about your needs, Jeep, terrain and tires.

If you purchase via Rubitrux, all basics you do need are there to add on.
https://www.rubitrux.com/aev-2-5-dua...-lift-kit.html
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DO you have a link to everything you bought? I am getting quite confused as to what else i need to buy besides the lift kit itself.

You don't need much with the AEV kit.
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AEV or Rancho Geo Brackets
Procal or Flashcal for Speedo.

That's the basics. Any dealer selling you this kit will suggest these. If not, find a new Vendor. I personally recommend the guys at Rubitrux when it comes to AEV. They will get you what you need.

The extras that you think you might need would be:
Steering Stabilizer (I got with Rubitrux recommendation. OME for cheap.)
Lower Control Arms instead of Brackets
Front Adjust Tracbar

Again discuss with your vendor or who I suggested about your needs, Jeep, terrain and tires.

If you purchase via Rubitrux, all basics you do need are there to add on.
https://www.rubitrux.com/aev-2-5-dua...-lift-kit.html
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I would recommend front LCA's to get caster back in line. I too had a 2.5" lift installed and noticed a drastic difference in handling after installing front LCA's.
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How about control arms?? I don't want to use cam bolts or drop brackets.. That leaves control arms. Metal cloak adjusts caster with only uppers, other companies use lowers.. I'm confused on direction. I want to go lowers and need flex. What is an affordable lower (or upper if suggested) control arm front and tracbar setup that is reliable/flex able/don't break the bank?


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How about control arms?? I don't want to use cam bolts or drop brackets.. That leaves control arms. Metal cloak adjusts caster with only uppers, other companies use lowers.. I'm confused on direction. I want to go lowers and need flex. What is an affordable lower (or upper if suggested) control arm front and tracbar setup that is reliable/flex able/don't break the bank?

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How about control arms?? I don't want to use cam bolts or drop brackets.. That leaves control arms. Metal cloak adjusts caster with only uppers, other companies use lowers.. I'm confused on direction. I want to go lowers and need flex. What is an affordable lower (or upper if suggested) control arm front and tracbar setup that is reliable/flex able/don't break the bank?


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Uppers are cheaper. Keeps cost down. Depending on how much lift, I would either get adjustable front lowers or a "longer than stock" fixed length front lowers.


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