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Old 08-13-2018, 05:44 AM
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Big Brake Kit and Towing

2018 willys 2dr and I have added a Mopar 2 imch lift, rancho Geo brackets and yeti track bar. It also has the optional factory rear locker. We sometimes need to pull our 16x7, tandem axle enclosed trailer locally to festivuls and the trailer empty weighs 2250 lbs. Will adding a big brake kit help out with braking while I am towing? Would the Mopar or teraflex kit be better for this application? I saw Mopar has a heavy duty. Brake kit for all four brakes but couldn't tell if it was for the jk or JL. Lastly, is the quaratec hitch and harness ok here or would you recommend something else?

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I'm running 35s and have a heavy 4 door.

I added the dynatrac brake kit before getting a 2600lb dry weight camper. It significantly improved braking performance.

Also I had 0 problems stopping the trailer recently even when my electronic trailer brake had stopped working.
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I'm going to do a combination of the Crown front kit and Teraflex in the rear.

https://www.crownautomotive.net/Big-...t/RT31046.html

I like that the Crown kit uses Dodge Ram components making replacement parts super easy.

In the rear, I'm just going to use the TF big rotor kit.

There are other add ons that you can do with the Crown kit, like the larger brake booster and master cylinder.
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Does the trailer have brakes? If so then add the harness and a trailer brake controller. Trailer brakes ALWAYS help.

And upgrading your Jeep brakes would be a smart bet as well.. But you are over the JK weight limit since I'm pretty sure it's under the JKU limit of 3000 lbs.
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Does the trailer have brakes? If so then add the harness and a trailer brake controller. Trailer brakes ALWAYS help.

And upgrading your Jeep brakes would be a smart bet as well.. But you are over the JK weight limit since I'm pretty sure it's under the JKU limit of 3000 lbs.
2dr max towing capacity is always 2000lbs.

https://www.jeep.com/jeep-capabilities/towing.html
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I have the Crown front brake kit with the stock booster. It is a huge upgrade over stock, and would certainly improve your towing performance, just not increase your tow rating.
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Does the trailer have brakes? If so then add the harness and a trailer brake controller. Trailer brakes ALWAYS help.

And upgrading your Jeep brakes would be a smart bet as well.. But you are over the JK weight limit since I'm pretty sure it's under the JKU limit of 3000 lbs.
2dr max towing capacity is always 2000lbs.

https://www.jeep.com/jeep-capabilities/towing.html
Not the willys with lsd, or in my case a rear locker, and 3.73. they are 3500lbs. Says so, like, everywhere in the manual, inside my door and on my Jeep wave account.
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@Pressurized ... crown will have a rear BRK like teraflex within a few months per Adam at Crown Automotive. Just for uniformity. Specs are still unknown at this time.
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I run the Crown front kit with a Mopar master cylinder and booster upgrade, 35's and a 995 lb dry popup I pull with my 2 dr. Probably have 500-600 lbs of gear in it.

Before the brake upgrade, stopping was sometimes a bit hairy. After the kit. It stops great.
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@Pressurized ... crown will have a rear BRK like teraflex within a few months per Adam at Crown Automotive. Just for uniformity. Specs are still unknown at this time.
Very interesting... I'll keep watching for it.
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Does the trailer have brakes? If so then add the harness and a trailer brake controller. Trailer brakes ALWAYS help.

And upgrading your Jeep brakes would be a smart bet as well.. But you are over the JK weight limit since I'm pretty sure it's under the JKU limit of 3000 lbs.
Yes, the trailer has brakes.
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Yes, the trailer has brakes.
Then the Mopar 7-pin harness and a trailer brake controller would be a good way to go.. take some pressure off of your Jeep brakes and there are other benefits as well.
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I'm running 35s and have a heavy 4 door.

I added the dynatrac brake kit before getting a 2600lb dry weight camper. It significantly improved braking performance.

Also I had 0 problems stopping the trailer recently even when my electronic trailer brake had stopped working.
so it seems like you like the Dynatrac kit? do you have front and rear? I'm looking at that one and the Teraflex one. Leaning towards Dynatrac - seems like price for front/back is pretty similar for Dynatrac vs. Teraflex. I've seen a lot of reviews of the Teraflex, but not many of the Dyna.
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so it seems like you like the Dynatrac kit? do you have front and rear? I'm looking at that one and the Teraflex one. Leaning towards Dynatrac - seems like price for front/back is pretty similar for Dynatrac vs. Teraflex. I've seen a lot of reviews of the Teraflex, but not many of the Dyna.
I love my Dynatrac brakes. Not a lot of dust, brakes very flat and it seems to be wearing well. I have 20K on them now and they are looking good. Even towing my trailer at 2000 lbs+ without trailer brakes it stops good.
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I love my Dynatrac brakes. Not a lot of dust, brakes very flat and it seems to be wearing well. I have 20K on them now and they are looking good. Even towing my trailer at 2000 lbs+ without trailer brakes it stops good.
Thanks for the feedback. Def leaning towards Dynatrac ones - just need to pull the trigger!
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Crown front with Teraflex rear rotor kit here. Running 35s and stopping is solid.


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Crown front with Teraflex rear rotor kit here. Running 35s and stopping is solid.


Did you do the booster and/or the MC?
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Did you do the booster and/or the MC?
No ..stock one is sufficient.
I did add SS brake lines up front.
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The dynatrac pro-grip is awesome. However this will not up your tow rating. That's really based off the short wheelbase.

My belief is that no wrangler should be towing anything with tandem axles. I've towed a u-haul 6x12 a couple of times locally in town, I would not want to run down the highway with one loaded up.
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The dynatrac pro-grip is awesome. However this will not up your tow rating. That's really based off the short wheelbase.

My belief is that no wrangler should be towing anything with tandem axles. I've towed a u-haul 6x12 a couple of times locally in town, I would not want to run down the highway with one loaded up.
Remember he is rated at 3500 lbs unlike us.

I have about 2500 lbs in my trailer right now, not really an issue but I don't have very little frontal or side area. That is a 1/2 yard of river rock and 400 lbs of lumber. Of course I am running a pretty light tongue weight and kept my speed down below 60 mph getting it all home. My Dynatrac brakes don't have any issue slowing it down and again that is without trailer brakes.

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A 2dr is still too small to pull a 16' trailer.
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I won't ever be going more than 25 miles with it and with traffic in our Beach area we really can't go over 30-35 and what will be in the trailer is a 10x20,10x10 tent, hair bows and children's clothes so the load itself isn't big. We will basically pull this trailer 2-3 times a year, and, honestly, we made down size it if we can.

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I love my Dynatrac brakes. Not a lot of dust, brakes very flat and it seems to be wearing well. I have 20K on them now and they are looking good. Even towing my trailer at 2000 lbs+ without trailer brakes it stops good.
Seconded. I didn't think many on this forum had installed them, nice to see others have also. It is the best braking mod I've ever done before.
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so it seems like you like the Dynatrac kit? do you have front and rear? I'm looking at that one and the Teraflex one. Leaning towards Dynatrac - seems like price for front/back is pretty similar for Dynatrac vs. Teraflex. I've seen a lot of reviews of the Teraflex, but not many of the Dyna.
Yep, love it. No regrets. It actually reminds me of how the brakes felt in a Ferrari I drove lol. And combined with the metalcloak lift, I can't even tell I'm pulling a 3000lb loaded trailer. And that's with no rear sway bar. The only issue I have is mediocre acceleration and hp.
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A 2dr is still too small to pull a 16' trailer.
As far as I am aware there is no length limitation for towing a trailer. Though I agree if there is to much side area wind sway can become an issue. But trailers like the Alto R series with retractable roofs at a little over 17 feet and only weighing 1800 lbs are about perfect for the 2 doors.
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Hey Terry, I'll argue with you here too. Sure there's no length limit in the books. I speak from 27 years of experience towing all kinds of trailers with many different tow vehicles. Short wheel base with a long trailer is a recipe for being one of the jackknifed messes on the side of the highway. Yesterday I saw a full size chevy van jack knived and totaled with a U-haul 6x12 behind it in the median of a local highway.

If you want to stick to numbers in the book, how about the max frontal area of 36 sq/ft for a Wrangler? That alone says any 7' wide rectangle trailer is a no go. Doesn't matter if they magically upped the 2 dr to tow 3500 with no changes made to the JK.
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Ok, my wife's business has two trailers actually, both enclosed, 16x7 and a 12x6, both with brakes. We we're going to sell the smaller one but it sounds like we would be better off selling the larger one, which I can already trade for a couple of really nice Native kayaks so that's probably what we will do along with adding a big brake kit. Thanks for the tips.

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