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Old 04-10-2014, 05:42 PM
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bottoming out!!!

i have an issue with bottoming out, i cant stand it! i have a 4" bds lift kit, i recently bought fox shocks 2.0 all around and still bottoming out. some of my friends were telling me my coils/springs were shot. i was going to throw cheap shocks on and see how the soft compression works out. any ideas jeeper friends?

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In what instances are you bottoming out? Wheeling? Higher speed trail riding? Streets?

How old is your lift?

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Hmm yea... Odd.

What siZe tire and are you bump stopped properly ?
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:12 PM
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im bottoming on streets and some crevices, going 10-15 mph. im running 35s, the lift is about 3 years from the original owner. on the bump stop side im not so sure, the shop would of told me if so.
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Take a pic of your front and rear coils. Where exactly is it hitting ? Front/rear ... Maybe something else is contacting like track bar bracket/coil ?
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i can feel my rear pumpkin dragging against the ground, im sorry let me rephrase that my rearend bottoms out and my front rarely. give me a few minutes, thanks
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i can feel my rear pumpkin dragging against the ground, im sorry let me rephrase that my rearend bottoms out and my front rarely. give me a few minutes, thanks
Umm that's kinda impossible!!. Your axle always has the same clearance. The tires keep it from hitting the ground.
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i can feel my rear pumpkin dragging against the ground, im sorry let me rephrase that my rearend bottoms out and my front rarely. give me a few minutes, thanks
This makes no sense. Your pumpkin can't touch the ground unless you're driving around on rotors.
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This is the rear pictures only


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Axle clearance comes from tire size. If you're hitting your pumkin that often, either get bigger tires or get a better spotter to give you better lines to crawl.
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while im driving locally, mainly pavement roads when i bottom out. say if the was a large crevice, dip or pothole i can feel my rearend slam against the street. i run 35-40 psi in my tires
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while im driving locally, mainly pavement roads when i bottom out. say if the was a large crevice, dip or pothole i can feel my rearend slam against the street. i run 35-40 psi in my tires
What size ?
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315/75/16

This is my rearend clearance I have, I know I have no shocks back there.
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Your rear end, at no point, is touching the ground. When you hit a dip or a bump, your rear end does not get any closer to the ground than it is now (unless your tires are completely compressing).

Likely, what you feel is your bump stops slamming into the rear end....meaning the body is slamming down and completely compressing the springs.. Why on earth do you not have shocks on your Jeep? Please excuse this if it is not the case, but you do realize that shocks (along with the spring) control the rate at which your vehicle can move up and down on the suspension. Some shocks are quite stiff and keep the body more rigid on the suspension, and some are more soft and allow for a more comfortable ride on the road. Not having any is forcing the spring to take the brunt of every bump or dip.
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You have a good point on the bumpstops slamming against the axle. There's a really nasty dip I cross around town and I feel like it's my rearend smashing into the ground. I have to drive slowly over it to prevent that from happening. I threw the shocks on my xj but I'm determined to change my coils out due to this reason. I understand the rate will bounce around that's the only thing that's holding the rear side up. Thanks for your input, I appreciate your concerns.
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ha ha ha very hilarious, no shocks no driving.
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No shocks is your problem here. There is no help from your shocks to dampen the movement on the springs. There is a reason they are there. Your springs are bottoming out and the bumpstops are being smashed into the rear end. Even a small dip in the road causes serious movement in your suspension. Without the shocks there is nothing stopping it.
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ha ha ha very hilarious, no shocks no driving.
Well that's taking it like a champ
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Is this thread a joke?
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i am very familiar with no shocks means no driving, its like driving a bounce house. since i removed my shocks, i have not drove my jeep. when i had fox 2.0 shocks all around i still felt my problem. it has been sitting for awhile now til resolve this problem.
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Is this thread a joke?
nah dude, haha. just having difficulties with my jeep
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I will say at quick glance you need to fix the bolt and captive nut on the axle side of your rear trackbar....

no way that the axle is bottoming on anything... I recently replaced all my BDS stuff.... about 3 years old and very much worn out.
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thanks for the input, unfortunately it is. im currently fed up with it.
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unfortunately what is? If you arent driving with the shocks out of it like I originally thought based on the beginning of this thread, then I would say your springs are completely worn and allowing themselves to compress to the max and slam the bumpstop.
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Time to get some new spring. "Teraflex" cough cough
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:14 PM
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Bottoming out, that's absurd driving with no shocks!!! Then this thread will be a joke, I had brand new shocks on there and still bottomed out and it had to be the springs/coils unless there was another major factor playing in the situation that I didn't notice. Thanks socomike I wasn't 100% sure that was the problem.
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315/75/16 This is my rearend clearance I have, I know I have no shocks back there.
Those are some nice looking tires. What kind are they?
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Put some chalk or grease on top of the rear bump stop pads. Drive and see if the chalk/grease transfers to the bumper. Put shocks back on first

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