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Old 08-07-2017, 11:53 PM
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Bumps Under Leather Seat Cover

Hi all. I've been enjoying the forums for a long time and finally saved up enough to buy a brand new Sahara. I love it!

One problem that I noticed today is that there are two marble sized bumps under the passenger side leather seat cover (stock, not Katzkin). The bumps are soft and not noticed by anyone sitting on the seat, but you can see them if you look and feel them if you run your fingers over the seat.

I'm a perfectionist and kind of want them fixed, but I'm very nervous about the dealer stripping the leather off to remove whatever extra fabric/detritus made its way under there. I'm worried something else will go wrong using the process (I've had bad luck at dealerships before).

What's everyone's take? Should I try to ignore it (OCD :-( ugh...) or do you think it's a minor fix for the dealer and I should get it repaired. They agreed to fix it.

Thanks for the help!!!

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Old 08-08-2017, 01:42 AM   #2
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You can verify with the Service Manager if they are going to do the work in house or take the seat bottom to a local upholstery shop. Most dealers use a local upholstery shop for they have the tools and expertise to do in 5 minutes what would take an in house tech an hour to do.

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Old 08-08-2017, 09:53 AM
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Rgreen- thanks for the advice. I'll ask them. If they do it in house, would you still have it done?
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UPDATE: Saw the dealer and the service station. They noted that it looks like the slight bump is not under the cover, but a slight variation in the leather itself at that spot. They took pictures and said they'll submit to FCA and see if they'll send a new leather cover.

Anyone else have anything like this? It's just a couple of tiny leather variations each about the size of a pea. You can't feel it when you sit, only when you run your finger over them.

Does this sound normal? Am I over worrying? Or should I push FCA to replace the seat? It was an expensive purchase. I just want things to be perfect (or as much as they reasonably should be).

All of your thoughts are GREATLY appreciated.
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you paid for new with no flaws, that's what you should get. new cover should make seat look like new if installed correct. remember it's not the dealers fault. treat them with as much respect as you would expect to receive and you'll get better results.
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You know, cows aren't perfect.

They sometimes rub against barbed wire and get scarred.

That could be where the leather defect comes from.

I know Bentley inspects every inch of their leather for defects, but you bought a Jeep, not a Bentley.

If FCA will fix it, great. I wouldn't get your hopes up, though.

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The marks don't look like what was in the earlier post (wrt heating vents). They're two small (width of a pea and a dime respectively) slightly raised spots where the grain goes in a different direction. It looks like the cow skin had a scar perhaps.

I've read another forum where a user had something similar and had to fight viciously with Jeep to get a new cover (~700 dollars FCA said).

It's a rough thing because I can understand that cows sometimes have scar tissue, but I don't see this in any of my friends Jeeps and online I only ever found one person with something similar. Just knowing they are sitting there next to me and I'm the guy who rolled the bad dice really gets in my head and cuts back on the enjoyment of this thing a bit for me.

If I had caused the defect, it oddly wouldn't bother me. But as it is, I _paid_ for the defect, which irritates me to no end.
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No cows were killed to make Jeep leather. It's synthetic man made stuff.
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@DFisk1975 - Is that true? I read that the McKinley Leather Trim is leather on the seat back and the bottom where your rump goes, and that the sides and wings are synthetic or made from a different animal.

The blemish in this case is right where you sit at the front of the seat. If that's synthetic then I'm going to fight vehemently to have FCA replace the entire cover since there is no reason synthetic would blemish.

If it's real, then I'm on the fence as it could be a mark from the cow. This is driving me mad. Anyone have an idea of someone that would be able to tell if this is normal? A Katzkin dealer maybe? I'd think they'd try to sell their wares though, so don't quite trust what they'd say here.

Any ideas or suggestions would help this new Jeep owner sleep a little better.
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[QUOTE="BostonMAJeeper;31038761"]@DFisk1975 - Is that true? I read that the McKinley Leather Trim is leather on the seat back and the bottom where your rump goes, and that the sides and wings are synthetic or made from a different animal.

Doing a net search I see that the McKinley seats are real genuine cow leather on the bottom and seat back. Sorry for the confusion.
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