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Old 09-14-2014, 07:43 PM
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Changed Oil on 2014 JKU

ok just changed my oil on my 2014 JKU, guy sold me the wrong oil filter, (Fram CH10995) I started it up and engine light came on and oil pressure was low. Shut it off put old stock filter back in with the fresh oil now the pressure is back up good but the engine light is still on.

I think the correct filter for the 2014 is CH11665

also how do I reset the oil life % on the dash?

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Turn the ignition switch to on without starting. push the gas peddle 3 times, turn off ignition.

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^^^The left filter is for 2013, and prior.
The right filter is for 2014, and 2015.
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Thank you, it worked, unhooked the battery to get rid of engine light.

yeah that's exactly the difference I got. I'll go swap it out tomorrow. Thanks again.
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For gods sake don't use a Fram. They're cheap, and they fall apart internally and you won't know until AFTER the engine damage is done. Go with Wix, or Mopar, or Supertech (rebranded Bosch), or really anything besides Fram.
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For gods sake don't use a Fram. They're cheap, and they fall apart internally and you won't know until AFTER the engine damage is done. Go with Wix, or Mopar, or Supertech (rebranded Bosch), or really anything besides Fram.
I've been using Fram filters for 35 years and have never had a problem. Have you actually seen this happen?
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Same here, I've been hearing not to buy Fram for the last 10 years but this is the first time I've heard why.
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Nothing wrong with the FRAM filters for this application.
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I've built engines off and on for 40 years and I would rather run no filter at all than run fram. There was a time when Chrysler would balk at any engine warranty work (1980s) if fram had been used. A search through service bulletins from that time will verify. Mr. Ross asked if anyone had seen these filters come apart. The simple answer is, yes I have. It's not just the paper deteriorating that I've seen cause problems but the valving and lack of proper internal coatings that become an issue. I understand they are better now than they used to be but for my money the top line Wix (NAPA), or purolator is the way to go. Use what you want and good luck with your choices.
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For gods sake don't use a Fram. They're cheap, and they fall apart internally and you won't know until AFTER the engine damage is done. Go with Wix, or Mopar, or Supertech (rebranded Bosch), or really anything besides Fram.
Just got the WIX it's all he had in stock and it is half the price of the Fram
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I've built engines off and on for 40 years and I would rather run no filter at all than run fram. There was a time when Chrysler would balk at any engine warranty work (1980s) if fram had been used. A search through service bulletins from that time will verify. Mr. Ross asked if anyone had seen these filters come apart. The simple answer is, yes I have. It's not just the paper deteriorating that I've seen cause problems but the valving and lack of proper internal coatings that become an issue. I understand they are better now than they used to be but for my money the top line Wix (NAPA), or purolator is the way to go. Use what you want and good luck with your choices.
It is not the 1980's. Also, there is no relationship with the cartridge filters and FRAM's fiber end cap canned filters.
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Nothing wrong with the FRAM filters for this application.
Other than a WIX is 1/2 the cost at RockAuto Parts.
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$7 at O'Reilly, 0 shipping cost..
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Other than a WIX is 1/2 the cost at RockAuto Parts.
$6.63 at my Wal-Mart and made in the USA for the FRAM vs. Poland for the WIX.
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$3.45 from Discount Fleet Supply. Well, that's the filter for 2012, at least (57526). I bought a bunch of those and a case of 12 (51143) for my Corvette for $41.

Dude you can buy all the Frams you want. They knowingly sell an inferior product for most of the vehicles on the road. I've seen enough of their spin-ons that were mush inside to know that they'll never see a dime of my money. I generally prefer made in the USA products myself, but there are plenty of examples of bad American companies but it's not an gimme.
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Fram, they don't call them "the orange can of death" for nothing.

I too would not run a Fram on anything I own but it is your motor.

I have passed on buying used vehicles just seeing they run a Fram oil filter.
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When I have time I will provide direct insight to my experience with Fram..

I too used Fram for 40 years until my findings.

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Just got the WIX it's all he had in stock and it is half the price of the Fram
I said I got a wix Damn .... stop the rants. NEVER had a problem with the pretty orange ones... lol

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It is not the 1980's. Also, there is no relationship with the cartridge filters and FRAM's fiber end cap canned filters.
The point you seem to be missing is that they have not kept up with the rest of the industry. No it's not the 80s but it's certainly not the 50s either and the cartridge inserts now being used are 50s technology with upgrades to the filter compounds. As I said before, use what you want. I wish you luck with it.
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Be glad it's on top of the engine at least. My other car is a 1966 with a cartridge that fits into a can...holds a full quart of oil. Screws up to the block next to the oil pan, held in place with one large bolt through the center. A little harrowing to lay underneath it and unscrew it while it's still on the warm side, being veeeerrrrry careful not to jostle it when it finally comes free. I've managed to avoid dumping it on myself so far.
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The point you seem to be missing is that they have not kept up with the rest of the industry. No it's not the 80s but it's certainly not the 50s either and the cartridge inserts now being used are 50s technology with upgrades to the filter compounds. As I said before, use what you want. I wish you luck with it.
We are talking cartridge filters here and you are offering nothing but old anecdotes from 40+ years ago.

You would thing the internet would be littered with "Fram blew up my engine" stories but all we get are like fellows repeating the same tag line from a bygone era. Same types that think Quaker State and Pennzoil are made of wax and varnish and sludging up engines.
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Nothing wrong with the FRAM filters for this application.

Exactly- You really can't blame Fram or any other brand if you're using the wrong filter for the application.
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Out of morbid curiosity, I recently looked at a Fram filter for a Pentastar, and it was virtually identical to the Wix I run. Based on appearance, I don't think I'd have a problem running a Fram in this application.

In the case of the Fram steel-bodied, spin-on filters there's no way in hell I'd use one. The reason is the cardboard filter element backer, which can break down and wreak havoc. I know a guy that lost a rebuilt engine due to this years ago. Less filter element surface area compared to others as well.

Eons ago Fram made a good filter, but in the last 30 years virtually everyone has surpassed them. Like anything else, you get what you pay for.
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Totally agree... but I would still buy Mopar.

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At one time Wix and Mopar were made under the same roof and on the same equipment. That may or may not have changed but I doubt it. Although the contract specified how the Mopar was made there was little to stop the manufacturer from duplicating the product, specifically the element coatings without breaching the contract.
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^There's a massive amount of rebranding in oil filters. Not as much as with batteries, but there are still only a few actual filter manufacturers that distribute through the brands you see on shelves.

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We are talking cartridge filters here and you are offering nothing but old anecdotes from 40+ years ago.

You would thing the internet would be littered with "Fram blew up my engine" stories but all we get are like fellows repeating the same tag line from a bygone era. Same types that think Quaker State and Pennzoil are made of wax and varnish and sludging up engines.
I've seen crappy Fram filters in the 2000s. So long as the guts of their filters are cheap cardboard, you're going to see bypass valves collapse or clog and either unfiltered oil circulate or all circulation stop. These are not insignificant problems. You're right this stuff dates back 40 years, but the problem is the rest of the world moved on to better materials and design, while Fram added a rubber grip instead. If they've finally moved beyond the 1970s recently, great. That's not a ringing endorsement.

Does any of that matter on this cartridge that doesn't have those issues? No, not really. But why would I switch brands TO Fram? Especially when I found a cheaper one that works better and has had an excellent reputation for decades, when I also use it for my other car? These are rhetorical, obviously.
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I run Wix filters for two reasons:

A. They make a superior product.

B. Between all the vehicles, motorcycles, and other motorized equipment on my property, there are eight entities requiring filters. Much easier for me to just go here and get them all, delivered to my door:

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