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Old 06-25-2018, 07:26 PM
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Closed System Winching and Factor 55 FlatLink E Installation and Review

Just installed my new winch and Factor 55 FlatLink E winch shackle mount. A synthetic line winch and a closed system winch set up in my opinion really makes the entire winch process much safer. Installs with the only tool needed being a pair of snap ring pliers. As an additional bonus this is some beautiful bumper jewelry, will almost be a shame to scratch it up.

It appears very well made and is made in the USA. I also ordered and installed the rope guard to prevent UV light exposure.




https://factor55.com/product/flatlink-e-expert/

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I'm running the Flatlink Splicer. Quality piece and tucks super close to the bumper.
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Now that they have the cover to protect the line on the flatlink I'm seriously considering swapping out my prolink for one...
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Now that they have the cover to protect the line on the flatlink I'm seriously considering swapping out my prolink for one...
I really liked the idea that it covers the end of the line and keeps it out of the sunlight. They also said it can act as a slider on steep approach angles. All of their items appear very well engineered and manufactured.
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Just installed my new winch and Factor 55 FlatLink E winch shackle mount. A synthetic line winch and a closed system winch set up in my opinion really makes the entire winch process much safer. Installs with the only tool needed being a pair of snap ring pliers. As an additional bonus this is some beautiful bumper jewelry, will almost be a shame to scratch it up.

It appears very well made and is made in the USA. I also ordered and installed the rope guard to prevent UV light exposure.




https://factor55.com/product/flatlink-e-expert/
Why is it more safe than exposed setup?
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Why is it more safe than exposed setup?
There's some info about the idea on factor 55s website.

Closed system isn't about whether or not the line is exposed, it is that you use closed connectors (d rings and such) instead of open, like the traditional winch hook.
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There's some info about the idea on factor 55s website.



Closed system isn't about whether or not the line is exposed, it is that you use closed connectors (d rings and such) instead of open, like the traditional winch hook.
Properly maintained gear/equipment is safe for the loads it was designed for and has worked for hundreds of years when assembled correctly.
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Properly maintained gear/equipment is safe for the loads it was designed for and has worked for hundreds of years when assembled correctly.
I agree with your comment, but a closed system using solid connections such as shackles is inherently safer than a standard winch hook with or without a spring loaded clasp, especially among users that rarely use rigging.
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I agree with your comment, but a closed system using solid connections such as shackles is inherently safer than a standard winch hook with or without a spring loaded clasp, especially among users that rarely use rigging.
So why spend all that money for their system when you can simply take the slip hook off the thimble and replace it with an anchor shackle with four 3/4" flat washers to keep it the shackle centered in the thimble? A couple of bucks down at ACE and your done.
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I agree with your comment, but a closed system using solid connections such as shackles is inherently safer than a standard winch hook with or without a spring loaded clasp, especially among users that rarely use rigging.
For $180 I can walk down (inspect/correct) any rigging before the next pull. On a Jeep winch assist you're not that far away for it to be an issue.
I don't recall shackles ever being an issue even during the use of hundreds of feet of wire or nylon line.
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For $180 I can walk down (inspect/correct) any rigging before the next pull. On a Jeep winch assist you're not that far away for it to be an issue.
I don't recall shackles ever being an issue even during the use of hundreds of feet of wire or nylon line.
That's the great thing about living in America, you can do things the way you want to do them and I can do things the way I want to do them.
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Properly maintained gear/equipment is safe for the loads it was designed for and has worked for hundreds of years when assembled correctly.
As far as I'm aware, closed had been preferred over open for most rigging situations for that whole time.

Obviously it depends on what is being done, but I can truly see the point about closed on something like a winch pull of a jeep, where terrain and changes in traction on the winched vehicle and everything else can result in the line suddenly going slack.

Considering all the variables you can't control for in a recovery situation, it seems like the extra measure of security provided by making sure all the rigging is fully captured is just a good idea.

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For $180 I can walk down (inspect/correct) any rigging before the next pull. On a Jeep winch assist you're not that far away for it to be an issue.
I don't recall shackles ever being an issue even during the use of hundreds of feet of wire or nylon line.
Again, the issue isn't necessarily just between pulls, but during a pull.

As far as the question of shackles being an issue, I assume you are referring to bow shackles/d-ring shackles? Those are closed, so the idea of closed system would be that you use those instead of open hooks.
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An example of Poor rigging"

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