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Old 02-10-2014, 08:09 PM
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Coil Spacers found all 4 Corners, no other parts???

Discovered spacers on top of coils today. About 2" thick. No new shocks, link drops, or track bars. Bought supposedly as "no lift". I have 35's now. Jeep wanders on the road. Could it be the spacers without the other components? Alignment is spot on. I was planning on a lift anyway, but don't think the 2" I'm seeing is enough. Should I go for 3.5", or will a 2.5 coil lift do what I need?
Light off-road use. And a DD.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:14 PM   #2
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You thought you had 35's without a lift? The wandering could be the tires. Uneven PSI, wear, or balance.

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Old 02-10-2014, 08:17 PM   #3
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Discovered spacers on top of coils today. About 2" thick. No new shocks, link drops, or track bars. Bought supposedly as "no lift". I have 35's now. Jeep wanders on the road. Could it be the spacers without the other components? Alignment is spot on. I was planning on a lift anyway, but don't think the 2" I'm seeing is enough. Should I go for 3.5", or will a 2.5 coil lift do what I need?
Light off-road use. And a DD.
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Did you measure them by eye? Take in count wranglers come with coil isolators. Some people confuse them with spacers. So make sure they are actual spacers.
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Did you measure them by eye? Take in count wranglers come with coil isolators. Some people confuse them with spacers. So make sure they are actual spacers.
A 2" spacer is pretty obvious compared to the isolators.
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My first Jeep. And I could not see the pucks. I had them on a F150, and they were noticeable. Tires are Nitto Terragrappler 325/65x18, measuring 34". Since we're on tires, what pressure should I be using?
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Do a chalk test to determine proper PSI.
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How tall are the isolators?
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Less than an 1".
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Wandering is more than likely Caster angle unless one tire is very low.

Many of us love the big look and feel but try to go with as little as you need if you want to avoid other required mods sooner or later. The 2.5" is solid compromise of performance and reliability unless you really want a taller lift and accept its total costs.
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Discovered spacers on top of coils today. About 2" thick. No new shocks, link drops, or track bars. Bought supposedly as "no lift". I have 35's now. Jeep wanders on the road. Could it be the spacers without the other components? Alignment is spot on. I was planning on a lift anyway, but don't think the 2" I'm seeing is enough. Should I go for 3.5", or will a 2.5 coil lift do what I need?
Light off-road use. And a DD.
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With the spacers you don't need new shocks our anything for that matter.

That is sometimes referred to as a budget boost....probably done to accommodate the 35's.

Sometimes steering stabilizers can push one way or another of its an aftermarket.
It's probably the tires tho.
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The tires are pretty wide, nearly 13" per specs. Would a stabilizer dampen some of that? The stock unit looks pretty dinky. I hear that all coil lifts are better than spacers, even steel spacers. If I added a winch later, would the coils be a better choice? I really wish it were about an inch or so taller than it is now. I guess I'll have to gauge what the spacer height is. The front spacer looks to be about an inch taller than the rear, to level perhaps?
Pardon all the newb questions. Like I said, my first Jeep and I've owned 17 trucks since 1976. I really want to start off on the right foot...on a reasonable budget.
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The SS from the factory is sufficient. Some ss will push left or right can't remember which way.

How bad does it want to wander.?
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With the spacers you don't need new shocks our anything for that matter. That is sometimes referred to as a budget boost.
If in fact it is 2" spacers he does need more parts then just spacers. A proper complete Budget Boost comes with more then just spacers. Without a rear Trackbar relocation bracket the rear axle is shifted passenger side, the front axle to the driver side.

My suggestion to the OP.
If you plan on adding heavy bumpers and a winch, go ahead and buy a proper 2.5" spring lift. If you are keeping factory bumpers you can purchase a rear Trackbar bracket to bring your rear Trackbar back in line.
A couple of extended rear swaybar links wouldn't hurt either.
Front lower control arm geometry correction brackets would help caster but at only 2" lift, caster shouldn't be a problem anyway.
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I would take the time and loosen all Ca and TB bolts. Shake jeep around and re torque at ride height. The original owner could of installed the spacers without freeing up the factory bushings.
Next have the alignment checked for caster/toe.
After decide on caster correction/track bars, etc
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You know, when I hit these soft speed bumps on my school road, after rebounding, it wants to push to one side, sorta diagonal, hard to describe. i dont like this, and want to correct it for sure. The rear sway looks to be out of level.

OK, now for the million dollar question, RE 2.5 or 3.5 lift? Which will net me the closest to 3"-3.5" with all coils? I want geometry correct.
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If in fact it is 2" spacers he does need more parts then just spacers. A proper complete Budget Boost comes with more then just spacers. Without a rear Trackbar relocation bracket the rear axle is shifted passenger side, the front axle to the driver side.

My suggestion to the OP.
If you plan on adding heavy bumpers and a winch, go ahead and buy a proper 2.5" spring lift. If you are keeping factory bumpers you can purchase a rear Trackbar bracket to bring your rear Trackbar back in line.
A couple of extended rear swaybar links wouldn't hurt either.
Front lower control arm geometry correction brackets would help caster but at only 2" lift, caster shouldn't be a problem anyway.
The tera flex budget kit doesn't come with anything for the track bar...our rear sway bar.

Comes with shocks bump stops, front sway bar links an's brake line relocation brackets.

Anything 3 and above your going to need the rear sway bar relocation bracket and adjustable TB.
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You know, when I hit these soft speed bumps on my school road, after rebounding, it wants to push to one side, sorta diagonal, hard to describe. i dont like this, and want to correct it for sure. The rear sway looks to be out of level.

OK, now for the million dollar question, RE 2.5 or 3.5 lift? Which will net me the closest to 3"-3.5" with all coils? I want geometry correct.
If you go 3.5" you will have to address the steering geomentry and control arms of your want to do it right.

I have added the Tera Flex flip kit for steering geometry correction. I also have the adjustable upper control arms and fixed lowers .

Ian going to replace the fixed lower super flex arms for adjustable ones eventually.

My caster is 3.2 but I want to try to get more without getting issues with the angles of the drive shaft etc...

The flip kit made a huge difference in steering.

You will invest some money with 3.5" of lift to improve the ride and handling. I also upgraded the front drive shaft because Iam closer to 4.5"..i have a 1"spacer up front and a 3/4 in the rear.

If your at 3.5" you ll have to address the drive shaft at some point.

A 2.5" lift you might want the adjustable control arms but the l drive shifts wont be as huge of a deal.
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Sounds like I just need to go with a proper 2.5" lift and loose the spacers?
So, about the wandering, any solutions?
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You know, when I hit these soft speed bumps on my school road, after rebounding, it wants to push to one side, sorta diagonal, hard to describe. i dont like this, and want to correct it for sure. The rear sway looks to be out of level.

OK, now for the million dollar question, RE 2.5 or 3.5 lift? Which will net me the closest to 3"-3.5" with all coils? I want geometry correct.
this is how a vehicle with a trackbar in the front works. the trackbar will actually make the body move in a moon shape in relation to the axle depending on lift height and to make it worse your steering geometry is changing while this happens as well. with my super long rock krawler springs it is very noticeable.

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