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Old 05-23-2017, 07:59 PM
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Freedom Panel Leak over Radio

Had my panels off and on before, but now, a stream of water flows out over the radio when going uphill. This is the best I can do with aligning them:

Can I get them square?

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Old 05-24-2017, 08:21 AM   #2
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If they are suddenly leaking when they were not before it's most likely a pinched seal or improper installation. It happened to me.
I suggest taking them off and cleaning all the rubber seals and applying either Honda Shin Etsu grease or 303 rubber seal protectant to all the seal before reinstalling the panels.
I have had good results using the Shin Etsu grease. You can get both off of Amazon.
My panels when installed do not line up perfectly. I just lay them in where they want to sit.
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do you have the rear big screw things installed? if so, those are probably too tight. they pull the rear down and the front up, creating leaks.

just snug them, they are actually not needed unless you are running front panels without rear part of the top.
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do you have the rear big screw things installed? if so, those are probably too tight. they pull the rear down and the front up, creating leaks.

just snug them, they are actually not needed unless you are running front panels without rear part of the top.
Yes, install the the "big screws" Snug them down so the panel is flush with the top. The panels should be even with the top in the back, not above or below.
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thanks.
I did clean the seals with 303. I'll get the grease. I sit in both seats and push up and gently let the panel sit back down to avoid pinching the seals. The screws are finger-tight and snug. It was parked with the nose slightly elevated. Nothing else came in after the initial dribble while I drove home in the rain.
It is garaged-kept. We got a lotta rain coming, so I'll be doing some more "testing"
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I just had mine in for multiple leaks (primarily, the front floors were soaked on both sides). Several seals were replaced. A few days later (and before I had removed the tops), I had the same leak you described. This happened a couple of times in the first few blocks when I first drove it after rain. But like you, no further problem after a short drive. I've since had the tops off and on, and it's raining today, so we'll see if there are further issues. By the way, when the dealer reinstalled the Freedom Tops, they had the "big screws" so tight that I could barely get one loose and had to go back to the dealer because the other one was so tight I couldn't budge it. I had already read here on the forum that those shouldn't be tight, so I'm hoping that was the problem.
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I just had mine in for multiple leaks (primarily, the front floors were soaked on both sides). Several seals were replaced. A few days later (and before I had removed the tops), I had the same leak you described. This happened a couple of times in the first few blocks when I first drove it after rain. But like you, no further problem after a short drive. I've since had the tops off and on, and it's raining today, so we'll see if there are further issues. By the way, when the dealer reinstalled the Freedom Tops, they had the "big screws" so tight that I could barely get one loose and had to go back to the dealer because the other one was so tight I couldn't budge it. I had already read here on the forum that those shouldn't be tight, so I'm hoping that was the problem.


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So, are my seals (over the radio) messed up? Need to replace?
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Had the exact same leak and they replaced the foam seals where the 2 tops meet up near the front header and all is well now even when parking nose down in a major rain storm.

That is a tough spot because no mater what water will sit between the two panels since its basically a channel. One thing to check like people said is to make sure things aren't pinched. I basically slide both panels on, and before I tighten everything down, lift straight up and back down from inside (each panel) so that they are placed straight back down on their seal points (there are some rubber seals that protrude out from the panels that can fold over if you slide even a half inch after putting them in place).

I also had door leaks but the tech who addressed the 2nd time actually took the time to realign the doors and that fixed all those issues since the doors were not aligned correctly from the factory.

Jeep must be spending a fortune in warranty claims for freedom panel leaks after sale, at this point they probably would have saved money long term on a complete redesign of the sealing system.

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