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Old 04-14-2016, 07:50 AM
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Question Fumoto Drain Plug concerns? Feedback?

For the Jeep enthusiast who likes doing their own oil changes, I see a lot of posts promoting the advantages of these quick drain values, like the Fumoto drain valve in particular. My questions are:

1. What prevents anyone from tampering with the drain plug? What stops someone from reaching under and releasing it – essentially stranding you in a parking lot with no oil?

2. For those on the trails, does it not create an additional place for branches and dirt to get logged or stuck on the underside of the jeep? Additionally, what if it gets knocked – wouldn’t that be enough to cause a loss of oil or does it have to be continually depressed to make oil come out?

3. In my other vehicles, there was always a special washer you had to replace or inspect on the drain plug, if you have this valve installed – is there any serviceable part inside the valve you eventually have to replace or inspect? The cost of a washer is certain peanuts compared to the price of a Fumoto plug. Fumoto can’t last forever? Do they slowly start to drip oil, or is there risk of complete failure and loss of all oil?

4. Does the Jeep factory plug include a magnet? If yes, and I put a Fumoto value in its place, am I losing some protection afforded by the magnet? Or losing the ability to see stuff that would have been stuck on the magnet?

Granted I’ve only seen photos of these, I’m just a bit concerned as to their safety vs something you need a wrench to remove.



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I have been using mine for about 3 years with no issues other than clean hands when i change my oil. I think if someone really wanted to drain your oil a factory plug wouldn't stop them. I did place a magnet on the outside of my oil pan near the drain that i remove when i change the oil. I have not seen any particles come out. I love mine and now use them on all my vehicles. I don't do any serious off road and could see concerns with that. I do also have a small clip on mine that has to be removed to open the valve but don't think it is really needed.

I did have a cheaper one i bought at Pep Boys several years ago and would strongly advise to go with the Fumoto instead.

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Using Fumoto also. O issues whatsoever. I have full skids on and it would be a touch reach for someone to get at it, unless they want to bring an Allen key with them take the time to undo the access panel and then let it all out. The skids have full coverage over the valve so nothing's going to get at it to rip it off. I have a 8" hose that I attach to keep oil off my skids when changing out.
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I've had the Fumoto valve on numerous vehicles with no issues at all. Changed the oil in my 2013 JK last weekend for the first time and I'm reminded again that no matter how much I try I always make some kind of mess without the Fumoto valve. Now I've got one on order so the next oil change I'll install it. The Fumoto valve plus the location of the oil filter on my 2013 = no more messy oil changes!!!
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Given your questions, I think you already understand the risk/benefit trade-off. I put a Fumoto valve on mine after the jeep dealer ground the points off of my factory drain plug. Had to use an extractor to get it off.
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1 - Non issue. Someone could reach under and undo a normal drain plug if they really wanted to

2 - You can purchase a locking clip for it if you want which will prevent the valve from opening inadvertently. If you are doing lots of off roading you should probably have an engine skid plate anyway

3 - There are two seals inside the valve, if you look up how a ball valve works, that is all a Fumoto valve is. They will wear out but it would take thousands of times opening and closing

4 - No magnet from factory
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I have one on my 2013. I like it. It got hella caked with mud on my first trail run, I'm going to get an oil pan skid plate at some point, it could definitely catch on a rock.
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One other characteristic is the lever is locked in place with the valve closed. You have to first push it up/down (can't remember which) then you can turn it to the side to open it up and drain the oil. It is not as easy as you would think to bump it and dump the oil.

I have the clip that was previously mention and that blocks the lever from moving up/down.
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I'm not a fan of them. I'd rather get a replacement drain plug with a magnet and drain the oil the old fashioned way.
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I'm not a fan of them. I'd rather get a replacement drain plug with a magnet and drain the oil the old fashioned way.
Biggest advantage to the Fumoto is being able to attach a hose and drain around your skids rather than into and on them. No matter how careful I tried to be it was always a major mess. With the Fumoto it's infinitely easier and cleaner.

Normally however I would agree, not much benefit if you don't have skids.
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Biggest advantage to the Fumoto is being able to attach a hose and drain around your skids rather than into and on them. No matter how careful I tried to be it was always a major mess. With the Fumoto it's infinitely easier and cleaner.

Normally however I would agree, not much benefit if you don't have skids.

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I tried one years ago on a Tacoma. It was ok. If you remove the fill cap and dipstick on a jeep before removing the drain plug, there isn't as big of a mess. I wear nitrile gloves when I change my oil, so no problems with getting dirty. I loose the plug and then back it out by hand, pushing in on the plug while turning until I feel the final thread on the bolt come across the start of the threads in the pan. Then you can just rotate the plug up and back for little to no mess. I have a big pan for changing oil in my 7 quart F150, 6 quart exploder, 6 quart wrangler, and 5 gallon john deere.
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I have on on my pickup and it's great, I really gotta get one for the jeep. It has a locking clip so it isn't accidentally opened and having the nipples to attached a hose is great to. If it takes a hit and breaks off I'd say you'll be looking at changing the oil pan as well so that's not really a concern for me.
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I plan on putting one on my jeep after I get an engine skid. I had one on my Tacoma and never had a problem. Put the hose on and drain it into a milk jug. I actually looked forward to changing my oil.

Speaking of that anyone need one for a 07 Tacoma pm me.
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I have it also and can echo the good reports of others. It works great and since I have armor under there it allows me to attach a hose and prevent a big mess.
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I know a bunch of folks have these but personally I never understood the love. It really isn't that big of a deal to grab a wrench and loosen that bolt. If you do your own oil changes like I do a too tight drain plug is just not an issue. The other part of this is if the wrong person knows about this they could make things messy, or worse.
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I know a bunch of folks have these but personally I never understood the love. It really isn't that big of a deal to grab a wrench and loosen that bolt. If you do your own oil changes like I do a too tight drain plug is just not an issue. The other part of this is if the wrong person knows about this they could make things messy, or worse.
with skids on good luck fitting a wrench in there plus oil would be all over the skids
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I know a bunch of folks have these but personally I never understood the love. It really isn't that big of a deal to grab a wrench and loosen that bolt. If you do your own oil changes like I do a too tight drain plug is just not an issue. The other part of this is if the wrong person knows about this they could make things messy, or worse.
I have one on all of my vehicles.

It makes an easy task (grabbing a wrench and loosening a bolt) even easier, and cleaner.

Would call that convenience, not love.
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I am pleased with mine since I like to do my own oil changes but can't do it without making a mess. These make it clean. Especially when you have a skid plate to reach through.
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For the Jeep enthusiast who likes doing their own oil changes, I see a lot of posts promoting the advantages of these quick drain values, like the Fumoto drain valve in particular. My questions are: 1. What prevents anyone from tampering with the drain plug? What stops someone from reaching under and releasing it – essentially stranding you in a parking lot with no oil? 2. For those on the trails, does it not create an additional place for branches and dirt to get logged or stuck on the underside of the jeep? Additionally, what if it gets knocked – wouldn’t that be enough to cause a loss of oil or does it have to be continually depressed to make oil come out? 3. In my other vehicles, there was always a special washer you had to replace or inspect on the drain plug, if you have this valve installed – is there any serviceable part inside the valve you eventually have to replace or inspect? The cost of a washer is certain peanuts compared to the price of a Fumoto plug. Fumoto can’t last forever? Do they slowly start to drip oil, or is there risk of complete failure and loss of all oil? 4. Does the Jeep factory plug include a magnet? If yes, and I put a Fumoto value in its place, am I losing some protection afforded by the magnet? Or losing the ability to see stuff that would have been stuck on the magnet? Granted I’ve only seen photos of these, I’m just a bit concerned as to their safety vs something you need a wrench to remove.
I use one as a convenience. My front skid plate's access hole for the drain plug needed a cardboard deflector be made every oil change or it would end up soaked. One of my fellow club members had one and reported good results, so I gave one a try. So far it's ok. I had some of the OP's concerns, particularly when once tightened in place the lever pointed straight down. As a precaution I got Fumoto's lock clip, and I put a plug over the drain as a backstop and to keep dirt out of it. Biggest PITA, the drain hole is small and it takes quite a while to completely drain the crankcase.
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I know a bunch of folks have these but personally I never understood the love. It really isn't that big of a deal to grab a wrench and loosen that bolt. If you do your own oil changes like I do a too tight drain plug is just not an issue. The other part of this is if the wrong person knows about this they could make things messy, or worse.
The only way anyone would know is if you tell them and that would mean that you know them, Right!
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4. Does the Jeep factory plug include a magnet? If yes, and I put a Fumoto value in its place, am I losing some protection afforded by the magnet? Or losing the ability to see stuff that would have been stuck on the magnet?
Not much need for a magnet, most of the engine is aluminum.
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The only way anyone would know is if you tell them and that would mean that you know them, Right!
Thank god no one has the internet..............................
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Thank god no one has the internet..............................
Yeah, I can just imagine someone stumbling across this thread and maniacally laughing when they read that WebDevDan has the Fumoto drain valve installed and then tracking him down so they can easily get under their Jeep and drain the oil.

Probably easier for them to just have a 13mm wrench in their pocket, but whatever.
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Not much need for a magnet, most of the engine is aluminum.
The heads/block are but the rotating assembly is mostly steel or other alloys. Crank, rods, bearings, camshafts etc. Those are the parts that are going to 'wear' and leave little bits of metal in your oil.

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