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Old 10-12-2018, 04:27 PM
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Got my alignment numbers, where to go from here?

Installed a 2.5 inch lift recently, and have definitely been having some flighty steering, pulling, and overall sketchiness in the driving. I put on some geometry correction brackets and that did help a bit, but nothing major. I went to get an alignment check today and the numbers were less than ideal in a few areas. I do plan on getting new tires within the next few weeks so I’m going to hold off on a full alignment until then, but is there anything else I can do to help fix things? Adjustable control arms and things like that? Thanks so much for the help!

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I apologize for the less than clear picture, I’ll try to post up a better one!

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Adjustable CAs would let you dial the caster right in to your sweet spot. There are lots of options out there, so you can decide how far into the water you want to go.
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Caster is still low, which Geo brackets? You need to go down 1 or maybe 2 holes on the brackets.
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Caster is still low, which Geo brackets? You need to go down 1 or maybe 2 holes on the brackets.
Rubicon Express brackets (Rubicon Express Part RE9800 - Rubicon Express Control Arm Drop Brackets - RE9800-WS2)

There are three holes for the upper arm to go into, they are currently in the highest of the three
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Rubicon Express brackets (Rubicon Express Part RE9800 - Rubicon Express Control Arm Drop Brackets - RE9800-WS2)

There are three holes for the upper arm to go into, they are currently in the highest of the three
For testing purposes, go down to the bottom hole. It might make caster a little high, but you are low right now, so I suspect not. You will know right away when you drive if caster and handling are improved.
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For testing purposes, go down to the bottom hole. It might make caster a little high, but you are low right now, so I suspect not. You will know right away when you drive if caster and handling are improved.
I took the upper arms out of the top holes, and they ended up lining up perfectly with the bottom holes. That definitely did seem to help with some of that flighty steering feeling but of course not so much with the pulling issues. It seems to me like that will work out well short term, and long term I hope to be able to get some adjustable arms. The toe and thrust angle seem to be awfully far off too, so I guess that is the next thing to try and tackle. Thank you for the info!
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I took the upper arms out of the top holes, and they ended up lining up perfectly with the bottom holes. That definitely did seem to help with some of that flighty steering feeling but of course not so much with the pulling issues. It seems to me like that will work out well short term, and long term I hope to be able to get some adjustable arms. The toe and thrust angle seem to be awfully far off too, so I guess that is the next thing to try and tackle. Thank you for the info!
Yes, TOE should be set to .08 to .10 per side. If you still have the numbers on your sheet, that's a problem.

For the rear thrust angle, it isn't usually a problem with handling, but it looks like you have a rear track bar bracket that has over corrected... This is very common and I did a bit of work on the topic here: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/s...r-1183905.html

I ended up as did many others, using the Superlift Track Bar. At the time it was also an incredible value at $119... Now it's up to $179, but we know it works.
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Yes, TOE should be set to .08 to .10 per side. If you still have the numbers on your sheet, that's a problem.

For the rear thrust angle, it isn't usually a problem with handling, but it looks like you have a rear track bar bracket that has over corrected... This is very common and I did a bit of work on the topic here: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/s...r-1183905.html

I ended up as did many others, using the Superlift Track Bar. At the time it was also an incredible value at $119... Now it's up to $179, but we know it works.
I was actually just reading through that thread, very informative and I'll have to get on that! Any ideas how to fix the toe issues? Those numbers seem really far off compared to what it should be
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I was actually just reading through that thread, very informative and I'll have to get on that! Any ideas how to fix the toe issues? Those numbers seem really far off compared to what it should be
Your total toe is .25 which isn't that bad... is your steering wheel crooked when driving straight?
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Your total toe is .25 which isn't that bad... is your steering wheel crooked when driving straight?
Ah ok I misread the toe numbers then and interpreted it wrong with their "suggested" values. The steering wheel definitely isn't perfect, but I have been adjusting that little by little trying to get it straight. The main symptoms I have been getting that made me want to get an alignment check in the first place was a decent pull to the right, as well as the usual bump steer and flighty steering
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Ah ok I misread the toe numbers then and interpreted it wrong with their "suggested" values. The steering wheel definitely isn't perfect, but I have been adjusting that little by little trying to get it straight. The main symptoms I have been getting that made me want to get an alignment check in the first place was a decent pull to the right, as well as the usual bump steer and flighty steering
That is a shop that did not take the time to straighten the steering wheel before generating those numbers. Not the end of the world, but I hate it when people don't take the time to do things right.
Filghty steering would happen with the lower castor.
Bump steer is sometimes because your drag link and track bar are not parallel.
A pull to one side can be a pressurized steering stabilizer or tires.

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