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Old 01-26-2020, 07:54 PM
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Help with C1035 U140C JK 2015 Right Rear Wheel

If there is a thread on these 2 codes can you direct me. I have looked all over. First off, I feel like ever since joining this forum, my Jeep has encountered more problems then ever. LOL It has also been a lot more fun.

My traction control and ABS light just came on I am at 35K miles. I pulled the codes using superchips.
C1035 Right Rear Wheel Speed Comparative Performance
U140C Implausible Right Rear Wheel Speed Signal Received

I bought a duralast sensor changed it, cleared the code and it came right back with the ABS/Traction control light on. It should be noted that when I pulled the old one out it had a ton of metal shavings on it, the new one as well and a ton more metal shavings on it. Note (I do notice on my rotor there is a small gauge 10" or so around it on only this rotor.)

It should be noted a few things happened the day before this light came on. Which may have absolutely nothing to do with the codes and could just be coincidental:
I took my car into dealership that day to get the passenger airbag recall done. Then right after I picked up the Alpine X409 unit and installed it...when putting the dash back together I accidentally put the traction control/emergency light switch/hill decent plugandplay adapter into the wrong port...It stayed there for a few minutes while the car was on. (I do think these things are coincidental but wanted to mention)

I put the car back together drove it around with the radio making sure all the parts worked and the ABS Light/Traction control came on.

If anyone could help self diagnose it would be greatly appreciated. I think this is going to be a dealer thing...that will cost $600...What are your thoughts.

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If there is a thread on these 2 codes can you direct me. I have looked all over. First off, I feel like ever since joining this forum, my Jeep has encountered more problems then ever. LOL It has also been a lot more fun.



My traction control and ABS light just came on I am at 35K miles. I pulled the codes using superchips.

C1035 Right Rear Wheel Speed Comparative Performance

U140C Implausible Right Rear Wheel Speed Signal Received



I bought a duralast sensor changed it, cleared the code and it came right back with the ABS/Traction control light on. It should be noted that when I pulled the old one out it had a ton of metal shavings on it, the new one as well and a ton more metal shavings on it. Note (I do notice on my rotor there is a small gauge 10" or so around it on only this rotor.)



It should be noted a few things happened the day before this light came on. Which may have absolutely nothing to do with the codes and could just be coincidental:

I took my car into dealership that day to get the passenger airbag recall done. Then right after I picked up the Alpine X409 unit and installed it...when putting the dash back together I accidentally put the traction control/emergency light switch/hill decent plugandplay adapter into the wrong port...It stayed there for a few minutes while the car was on. (I do think these things are coincidental but wanted to mention)



I put the car back together drove it around with the radio making sure all the parts worked and the ABS Light/Traction control came on.



If anyone could help self diagnose it would be greatly appreciated. I think this is going to be a dealer thing...that will cost $600...What are your thoughts.
It may be worth resetting PCM by disconnecting battery for 30mins. You may have already done that of course.

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If the sensor has metal shavings on it then there is something going on with the tone ring inside and/or hub assembly. Chances are great you will have to change the bearing unit out.
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Nope I have NOT done that yet. I had the battery disconnected for a while, while screwing with the radio. SO I am going to try that solution NOW>
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Nope I have NOT done that yet. I had the battery disconnected for a while, while screwing with the radio. SO I am going to try that solution NOW>
It's a long shot but those things are sensitive.

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If the sensor has metal shavings on it then there is something going on with the tone ring inside and/or hub assembly. Chances are great you will have to change the bearing unit out.

OK, ty. I was afraid of something like this. I started reading about this. I see a $12 part and the whole assembly for about 120. I assume I just have to take the wheel off and the rotor and look and find out. I watched a video on it, it looks a bit difficult but more just scary for me as I need to go buy a good jack.
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It's a long shot but those things are sensitive.

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It was definitely worth a shot. disconnected the negative battery for about 30 minutes, drove it and ABS Light came right back on.

Thanks for thinking of it. Going to see if it is the other option.
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OK, ty. I was afraid of something like this. I started reading about this. I see a $12 part and the whole assembly for about 120. I assume I just have to take the wheel off and the rotor and look and find out. I watched a video on it, it looks a bit difficult but more just scary for me as I need to go buy a good jack.

That shaved metal is most likely bits and pieces of the hub bearing race as it slowly disintegrates. The race is the first thing that goes whe your bearings start to get weak



Either way though you can't get at the tone wheel to properly clean it and the metal shavings will affect the quality of the abs sensor signal so regardless of WHY there are shavings in there, the hub will have to be replaced.


You do have to remove the wheel, brake caliper, rotor, axle nut, and the three hub retainer bolts.
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This could also be a wiring issue or a ABS issue. Do you have Jscan or some other scanner that can see live data from ABS? I'd be curious what each wheel speed sensor is doing before you throw a bunch of parts at it.
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That shaved metal is most likely bits and pieces of the hub bearing race as it slowly disintegrates. The race is the first thing that goes whe your bearings start to get weak



Either way though you can't get at the tone wheel to properly clean it and the metal shavings will affect the quality of the abs sensor signal so regardless of WHY there are shavings in there, the hub will have to be replaced.


You do have to remove the wheel, brake caliper, rotor, axle nut, and the three hub retainer bolts.
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This could also be a wiring issue or a ABS issue. Do you have Jscan or some other scanner that can see live data from ABS? I'd be curious what each wheel speed sensor is doing before you throw a bunch of parts at it.
After driving it today for about 20 miles, I am almost certain it is what Bob said. As it was making some major grinding sounds on the way home today from the right rear wheel. I called a local shop and dealer, dealer said 410 to repair and the local shop said $275. I am going to the local shop tomorrow as he said it is mostly just labor and not the parts and the grinding could Hurt the car further in the future with the shavings going off into the axle shaft.

Local shop said the parts are compressed on and they either need to be cut off or some other way...This one is a bit out of my realm I think. I watched a video on it and a youtuber did cut one of the metal bearings/cylinders off and thats not up my alley...LOL. I will stick to installing grab bars, led lights and air intakes maybe a rear view camera but thats about it.

IF you are from Michigan and want to make some money to do it for me come on over LOL.
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Update need help deciding

UPDATE. Bad news could be good news if someone tells me it is time to replace.

So when the shop took off the wheel and brake. The parking brake clip got removed some how and the metal fell off into the axle gears. This then chewed up the teeth as shown in the photo.

So the whole axle needs to be replaced. quote 1300 from dealer 1200 local. I would take it to the dealer for this price.

My question this is a stock 2015 Wrangler JK Sport Unlimited with 35" tires and a rough country lift on it. Would now be the time to upgrade the axel or differential? Where to take it, I am in Michigan.

What would you put on it. I want to do some offroading more in Colorado but nothing like out of this price $5000 somewhere $2500 and below if possible.
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I think you can just pull the axle and press out the seal and tone ring and put a new one. They sell the tone ring at rock auto. Not mopar but it's only $15. I'd look to go that route or just buy a new axle and put it in myself.
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Even better, the Dana version which means it's probably OEM.

https://www.4wd.com/p/dana-spicer-to...R-FSGR-2004403
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Ahhh rear axle. I thought you were talking front. You can replace the tone ring on the rears.... anywhere around 20 or 30 bucks plus install labor.
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I see that cheap for the part. I'm thinking on just buying the axle on extreme terrain a Yukon or rough country that is already pressurized together as it is 250 and I might be able to do it myself.

I'm kind of enjoying the process as I currently have some free time.

I see the tone ring is cheap but think I will spend some more money on labor. You all have been so helpful.
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Ahhh rear axle. I thought you were talking front. You can replace the tone ring on the rears.... anywhere around 20 or 30 bucks plus install labor.
It did end up being the rear axle toner. I ordered the axle and got it fixed today.

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