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Old 03-28-2017, 02:49 PM
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Horn went out, or was it the cruise control?

Last week my horn stopped working on my 2013 Wrangler with 25000 miles. Took it into the shop and at first they said it was the horn switch, and it would cost $230. Five minutes later, the service manager came back and said that it wasnt the horn switch, but the cruise control switch, and that the repair cost would be about the same. Also told me that the horn and cruise were connected. I've never heard of this.

My question is... have you? Is this "switch" a typical part that breaks on the JK?


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Old 03-28-2017, 02:54 PM   #2
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I believe they all go thru the clock spring in the steering wheel.

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that would be the clock spring and it will be covered under warranty for the next 15 years. very common issue.
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Me too!

I recently purchased a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and I'm having the same issue. Cruise control buttons work but nothing else on the steering wheel as well as the horn. I read online to disconnect the battery to see if that would reset everything but no such luck. Do I need to replace the clock spring?
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Before you replace the clockspring give the steering wheel a good hit at the 10 and 2 o'clock positions. Sometimes the spring contacts get stuck.
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Thanks for your ideas, but be aware that only two weeks ago I received a letter from Jeep telling me about the clockspring issue. I asked the dealership about this and they said that the clockspring had nothing to do with my problem. They said the cruise control switch was the issue. So.... now what do you think? (they are a very reputable dealer)
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I think I would take it to another dealer. the horn and the cruise are both symptoms of the clockspring issue.
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Try what I said, it has worked many times on numerous Jeeps over the last 17 years.

Couldn't hurt.
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I beat on the steering wheel but no such luck. The funny thing is that the horn sounds when I hit the lock button. Any thoughts???
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Check the ground located at the driver left foot area between the door and the firewall. 1 bolt with a bunch of black wires, sometime it will corrode.
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I've contacted Chrysler Corp with the issue. At first I thought the car was just out of warranty, but then realized that it had been just over a year. Naturally, Chrysler couldn't help. But then, this issue kept bugging me. I remember asking the dealership to give me the old part, but I never got it. Now, I'm not accusing them of anything, because they are very reputable as I said earlier. But I STILL want to know how the horn is connected to the cruise control, so I asked that very question to Chrysler. Waiting for an answer.
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Reputable dealership !!!!??? Hmmmmmmm


It is definitely the Clock Spring that causes all sort of malfunctions ... Horn, Dome light on/off, Cruise Control and even flickering headlights

I replaced mine and all functions are working now flawlessly.
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Here's what my service order says: "Customer states that the horn is not blowing. Found code B2339 horn switch stuck. Active actuate the horns through diagnostics. Found that the cruise control switch is bad. Horn will blow when opening the door. Replaced the cruise control switch."

Not even sure what he was trying to say, but it still doesnt make sense to me.Anyone know what that code means?
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:15 PM
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Got this back from Chrysler:

I called the Dutch Miller Chrysler Dodge Jeep dealership and spoke
with Shelly in services. Shelly informed that the B2339 code is related
to the issue with the horn. Shelly further informed me that on your
vehicle steering wheel the cruise control and horn are linked to each
other.

For any further information required I recommend to kindly contact
Shelly directly or the Dealer service department directly as they are
the best resource for addressing your concern.
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Here's what someone said on another forum:

It appears to me, starting in 2011, the horn switch wires go through the speed control switch before going through the clock spring.

The 2008 diagram shows the horn switch wires going directly to the clock spring.
There are some other differences, but this likely explains the dealer's idea the speed control switch could be a factor on your 2013 JK.

Well... that explains that. But why this would go out on a car that looks brand new....
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Has anyone gotten a new clockspring under the extended part warranty, without an airbag light? I recently got my letter that my 2012 is potentially affected by the clockspring/airbag issue, but my only problem has been the cruise control.
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Either or all of the functions that are at the Steering Wheel or attached to it are affected by the Clock Spring.
If the cruise control is gone now, be sure that other functions such as wipers, horn, dome light control and even signals would follow, sooner or later.
I received the notification from the dealer after I replaced my Clock Spring.

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