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Old 12-14-2016, 11:10 AM
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How much do I need to budget to get a quality lift and custom wheels and 35" tires

I am new to this forum and new to jeeps, so please have mercy on me ... haha. I ordered a Jeep, with the expected delivery date to be early Jan. One of my first desired mods is a quality lift and new wheels. I am not mechanically inclined, so installing a lift on a new Jeep is definitely out of my comfort zone.

I received a quote of over $7k for the parts and installation (labor) of:
- AEV 3.5" Dual Sport SC lift
- (5) AEV Pintler wheels
- (5) 35 x 12.50R17 all terrain tires
- AEV JK Tire Carrier (swing out)
- AEV CHMSL (3rd brake light)

To me $7k seems really high, but it seems like everyone has their jeeps lifted .... I can't imagine everyone has an extra $7k at their disposal.

I've ridden and customized motorcycles for over 20 years, so I understand the after market parts industry ... but is this the price of playing in the Jeep world.

Thanks in advance for entertaining my question.

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You will never see much of a price break on AEV. Plus their prices are higher to start with. With install 6k-7k seems about right.

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Installed myself - 2.5" Terafex lift with drop brackets and Rancho shocks = $800.
5 BFG MT2s and rims = $2,500.
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15 years on a Harley and I didn't know what an expensive hobby actually was until I bought a Wrangler. That said, AEV is relatively expensive, especially considering what you get. For this purpose however, I am going to assume that you have done your research and the products you listed above match your anticipated use of the rig and are what you want. People who have AEV seem to swear by it. Not for nothing, but the AEV lift is one of the easiest to install given the bolt-on brackets, etc. If you can do it yourself, you'll save some coin (+/- $1,500 according to my math).
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Most of us do the work ourselves to save money labor can creep up. Most shops charge between $80-$120 a hour on labor. Looks like you can buy everything yourself depending on where you get it for under $5300. You can probably use a few forum discounts or search around and find some of cheaper, that was just a quick search and using a high end BFG K02 All terrain as a price point. Looks like they are charging you around between $1700-$2000 on labor so that seems probably about what you can expect.

I let a shop install my first lift, a 2.5" rough country spacer lift. I had no experience doing it and had no idea so I took it my local 4 wheel parts store. They charged me $550 total for the kit and the installation. I thought at the time that wasn't bad, until my buddy install the same lift on his jeep in under 2 hours and only paid $105 online straight from rough country. After that I learned how to work on it myself.

If I would have paid to have the 3" suspension lift I got now installed it would have cost me $1500 including the labor. The lift kit cost me under $400 and me and a buddy had the job done in three hours in my driveway.

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I'm what the forum would refer to as a "chump" I had a shop install my lift because I couldn't lift the jeep high enough to fit in new springs and I wasn't going to install outside while it's 18 degrees. So all in here is what was installed:

-35's
-3.5" metalcloak lift
-pintlers
-TF HD hinged carrier
-c-gussets
-exhaust spacers
Total for parts and labor was like $6k, some stuff I overpaid and ordered through the 4x4 shop, some stuff I ordered on my own and saved a bit.

$7k might seem high, but as you start pricing out high end parts it adds up fast. You could probably shave off ~$1300 of my cost for labor.
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Two door or four door? What do you plan to DO with the Jeep (is strictly pavement, mild trails, hard trails, rock crawling etc)?

For 35s you should add regearing to your budget - neither of the non-Rubicon gearsets are decent for 35s. If you are getting a Rubicon with 4.10, gearing won't be ideal but will be "ok" for mostly street driving.

Why did you go with AEV lift? Why 3.5? Just curious what led you to these choices so I can follow what you're trying to do.
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Just did it on my '13 JKU, not what you have listed, but also not as expensive:

$ 170.00 - Supreme Suspensions - JKU Lift Kit Full 2.5" Fnt & Rear
$ 200.00 - Spidertrax S2PWHS010 Wheel Spacer Kit 1.5" - x2
$ 1,336.00 - 35X12.50R18LT123RTLAT/ BFG TAKO2RWL
$ 440.00 - Install-Easier (for me) to pay someone to do it…
$ 396.00 - Rugged Ridge Spartacus HD Tire Carrier Kit
Total $ 2,542.00

I had 18" aftermarket wheels so I just used them.
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For that quality lift, tires and extra parts that seems about what a shop would charge installed. I payed $2,175ish for my AEV Dual Sport RS 3.5" lift and $2,950 for 5x Fuel Octane 18"x9" with -12 offset aka 4.5" backspacing on 35"x12.5"R18" Nitto Trail Grapplers mounted and balanced with new TPMS installed. Those prices are for the parts only. Shops charge about $80-$100 bucks an hour for labor. BTW, $7k isn't much compared to most the Jeeps on this forum.
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Above posts cover approximate costs and some options.

I was going to go with the AEV lift until I learned about Metal Cloak's Gamechanger suspension lift. No way I'll go with AEV now.
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I did my 2012 Rubicon for about $4,600 in December 2015. Used a Teraflex 2 1/2 inch lift with Teraflex VSS9550 shocks and 9550 steering stabilizer. Bought it from Cascade Four Wheel Drive in Grand Rapids, MI and he installed it for $550 in labor. Dave Kramer is very nice to work with and was helpful in answering questions. For the labor price I didn't feel like getting my hands dirty. Got my five wheels from Quadratec; Moab style similar to the factory rims only wider. BFG All Terrain A/T 315/70-17 tires from Discount Tire. Finally I installed as part of my overall cost a Teraflex Heavy Duty Adjustable Tire Carrier and Tailgate Reinforcement from Quadratec along with the Teraflex Trird Brake Light extension kit (includes a CB antenna mount). I did have to trim the Rubicon Rock Rails and cut a 45 degree angle off the pinch seam weld, a problem corrected by Chrysler in 2013.
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Lots of great suspension systems out there and everyone has their own opinion on the best for their money. I started wanting a teraflex system, then AEV and a few others peaked my interest... finally narrowed it down to metal cloak and rock Krawler, ended up with a rock Krawler system.

Possibly list what your quote shows as price per item, that might help save a few bucks. If purchasing everything local possibly they would discount a bit to match online pricing?

But yea, a quality kit, installed with new wheels and tires isn't cheap however it saves you money in the long run getting products that will last a very long time.
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I am new to this forum and new to jeeps, so please have mercy on me ... haha. I ordered a Jeep, with the expected delivery date to be early Jan. One of my first desired mods is a quality lift and new wheels. I am not mechanically inclined, so installing a lift on a new Jeep is definitely out of my comfort zone.

I received a quote of over $7k for the parts and installation (labor) of:
- AEV 3.5" Dual Sport SC lift
- (5) AEV Pintler wheels
- (5) 35 x 12.50R17 all terrain tires
- AEV JK Tire Carrier (swing out)
- AEV CHMSL (3rd brake light)

To me $7k seems really high, but it seems like everyone has their jeeps lifted .... I can't imagine everyone has an extra $7k at their disposal.

I've ridden and customized motorcycles for over 20 years, so I understand the after market parts industry ... but is this the price of playing in the Jeep world.

Thanks in advance for entertaining my question.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:58 PM   #14
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Seems about right

I did the AEV 3.5" SC lift, 5 Salta rims, correction brackets and 35" BFG KO2's, Maximus-3 tire carrier and host of front end accessories, Warn Zeon winch and HID off road lights, JW speaker headlights and AFE performance diff covers and exhaust make-up pipe by myself on my 2014 JKU Rubi-X on the floor of my shop at work over the 4th of July weekend by myself. I'm a pretty mechanically inclined person but have never done any work like that before and it turned out great. Did a 4K mile road trip on our honeymoon through the Appalachians out to the East coast in NC and back through the Smokey's. Did some decent, mild trail riding all around and it handled great both on and off. Just like others have said, I think a lot comes down to how and where you plan on using it. I had gotten a price from a local reputable 4x4 shop of $1100 to install the lift in case I couldn't get around to it planning the wedding and running a business. I decided to do it myself and am really glad I did. Got way more familiar with the Jeep which I dig and the satisfaction knowing I did it. Glad to help answer any questions on what I did if it'll help you or anyone..take care and good luck!
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You are way to hung up on AEV...
There are better choices out there.
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You are way to hung up on AEV...
There are better choices out there.
You know I thought the same thing
A good Rock Crawler 3.5" lift for around $900-$1000 would be my choice over the AEV.

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Thanks everyone for the honesty and opinions. I began lurking on this forum about 4 months ago when I was trying to decide if I could buy a JK. I knew that I definitely wanted to lift it and increase the tire size, but to be totally transparent, I became so overwhelmed with all of the lift choices and options and hybrid possibilities that I contacted a local shop and asked for their opinion. They showed me a couple 'high end' modified jeeps, all running AEV and then wrote me up a quote.

I don't mind paying for quality parts and workmanship, but I don't feel the need to buy something simply on name recognition, I will stray from the popular path if I can get the same or better quality and performance. Additionally, I prefer to purchase above or beyond my immediate needs so that I avoid having to upgrade again in the future. I'm just not educated enough to commit to a decision yet.

I'm new to the off road community, so until I can become familiar with sites, locations and possibly off roading groups in my area I anticipate that my jeeps immediate use will be pavement and mild trails. Because of this, my highest priority is finding a lift that will maintain or increase comfort and drivability.

Thanks again for any advice and I apologize for the long winded post.
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Old 12-15-2016, 12:59 AM   #18
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If it's something you want to do right away, why not let the dealership do it for a price you agree upon and factor it into your financing? Consider the Mopar 2" lift perhaps.

When I bought mine about 1 year ago, I didn't know what my plans were for it. Looking back, I wish I would have just had everything done at delivery and then could have just financed it all. My payment still would have been low as I put down around $25,000.

Over the past year I have done a lot on my build - any of the simple stuff I can do with hand tools I have done, but the lift, wheels/tires, and gears were done at the shop. I have definitely put over $10k into it now and while I may have had 5-7k to spare for it, 10k has made me limit my budget on other expenses this year. We also bought a new house this fall and it made me wish I never knew one could modify their Jeep, lol.

And as a previous poster said, you should probably regear when you go to 35s if you want acceptable performance out of your new Jeep.
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I have owned Jeeps for 40 years & driven them for 55 years. Have been through mods of all sorts.

Please note that several responders have asked you "What do you want to do with your Jeep?" This is critical. If you need to ford deeper water or actually rock-crawl, you have numerous options.

But, I have learned that many "factory standards" are best left alone. As I don't do rocks or deep water, I now usually limit mods to aftermarket shocks and one size-up tires on the original rims.

Every option has benefits but also has negative qualities.

If you are considering mods just for the "looks", I'd say definitely don't do them.

Unless in a mountainous area with lots of Jeep'ers, you most certainly won't recoup the costs when it is time to sell or trade.

Good Luck & may GOD Bless,

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I did the lift on my Jeep last month:
AEV 3.5" Dualsport SC lift kit (Rubitrux.com) $1800
5 BFGoodrich - All-Terrain T/A KO2 (Costco) $1523
5 Fuel "Lethal" 17" wheels (BBwheels.com) $1090
Teraflex exhaust spacers $50

$4463 total. I did the lift myself because the local shops wanted $1000 or more to do the install. Took me 3 days but was totally worth it. I haven't gotten the tire carrier/bumper yet but the 35" tire fits fine on the stock carrier for now.
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I made a spreadsheet (engineer) to figure out total costs for materials. As of 1 year ago here are approximated prices averaged over four different forum vendors:

Teraflex 3", 4arms, front trackbar, shocks
$2000

Rock Krawler Flex 2.5 <-- picked this one
$1700

Rock Krawler X-Factor 2.5
$2400

I needed exhaust spacers $45, 1.5" spidertrax wheel spacers $200, and a procal programmer $170 for my setup and future larger tires.

I also decided to add all four rear arms to push the axle back, rear swaybar links, rear superlift trackbar, and teraflex limiting straps.

I did the entire install by myself over a week or two after work. I only purchased maybe $300 in tools I didn't already have.

EDIT to add: I haven't bought larger tires yet, but I expect to pay close to $300/each for 34" tires. I did buy five OEM jeep commander wheels (17x7.5) for $50, though. I like to rock crawl a few times a year, so rock rash is inevitable.
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Just did the same thing within the last 45 days.

I did get a deal on the metal cloak game changer rocksport by buying the gold standard and adding the missing pieces. $847.48 extra pieces. $1240. I think for the gold coin. Total for MC 3.5" game changer shipped $2087.48

315/70 r17 Mickey Thompson ATZ P3, mounted and balanced on 17 x 9 fuel beast wheels, 5 wheel sensors and black spline lugnuts shipped. $2798.

Rugged Ridge Spartacus HD tire carrier shipping Black Friday sale. $415.99

Front end alignment. $89.

I can't help you with the labor I installed everything myself.

Total $5390.47
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Just got a new lift and tire/ wheel combo done yesterday. Went with a 2.5 Rock Krawler Overland /Fox Shocks, 17" XD wheels and Ridge Grapplers. With install it came in just under 6k.
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My rig isn't anything crazy. I installed the lift/shocks/tire carrier myself. Had Discount Tire swap my TPMS from my stock wheels to the new ones during the wheel upgrade.

2.5" Teraflex coil lift: $489
Rancho 9000xl Shocks: $425
Teraflex Hinge/Tire Carrier: $689
315 Nitto Trail Grapplers & Black Rock Viper wheels: $3000

$4.6k plus about 6 hours of my time. If this is something you'd consider installing yourself, keep an eye on prices for shocks, as there are sales regularly. Teraflex hinge and carrier prices float around depending on vendor as well. $7k isn't bad if they warranty their work and you want it done in quick order. Of course, I didn't have $5k sitting around, so it took me about a year to buy all of the tools and parts. Then, I rode on my lift for almost a year before i upgraded from the 32" stockers.

Side Note: The benefit of self install is that you will need tools and, after having acquired them, you will find many occasions where you'll be glad to have them. Also, you'll be more educated on what all the pieces do and why.
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I did a Teraflex 2.5 lift with bilstien 5100 that was around $700 I think. Then BFG AT KO 2 $1,400 for 5. Also did the Teraflex tail gate hinge $700. So right around $3000 for me.

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