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Old 09-20-2016, 10:57 PM
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Installed 2.5 lift jk drives like ass brackets or arms

Installed 2.5 lift on my jk teraflex shock spring kit plus rubber bump stops discos and new rear sway bar end links

drives like ass

So my question is Geo brackets or front lower arms

I really don't wanna loss ground clearance

I take it out once a month out to some trails




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Adjustable LCA's - Teraflex Alpine's.

Just put them on my 2.5" TF coil lift. Ride is great. Easily adjustable to tune in your caster.

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Overall drive will be better with brackets. But you can fix caster and keep your ground clearance with arms.

As above, the TF Alpine arms are a great choice.

Did you get an alignment?
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:36 PM
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Installed 2.5 lift jk drives like ass brackets or arms

Taking it for one in the am there's not much they can adjust stock right or is there some adjustably


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Taking it for one in the am there's not much they can adjust stock right or is there some adjustably

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Just toe, but the rest of the numbers will more clearly identify the best course of action for you.
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Taking it for one in the am there's not much they can adjust stock right or is there some adjustably

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Nothing they can adjust in the caster department after a lift with the stock lowers or uppers, they can only adjust toe, but toe won't fix the lack of caster, that's when those adjustable lowers will come handy.
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There is no need to adjust the toe since nothing has changed, only thing that needs to be adjusted is the drag link to straighten your steering back to center which is something you could do yourself very easily.
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As for loss of ground clearance with geo brackets it's very minimal if you aren't rock crawling I doubt you will ever notice. Plus geo brackets do more than correct the caster.


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Old 09-21-2016, 06:31 AM
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I understand the caster angle just wondering the best course to fix the problem


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i run the aev brackets and they have made contact with a few rocks here and there without issues. they're pretty tough. if you are not crawling all the time the 1.5 inches lost in that area are very well worth the gain in drivability. my jk has adjustable links, track bars, rear uppers yet i still run brackets because they work well. until i bend a stock lower arm i am happy to run these. there are things like the front track bar that you could spend some cash on while saving by using the brackets.
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Do you have any issues with ride harshness? If not might as well go with arms. If so do the brackets.
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What else did you install/change? (Tires/wheels?)

What exactly is the driving issue?

How much net lift did you get?
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Arms, brackets its personal preference, brackets hang down if ground clearance is a concern, if not get them. If you are rock crawling arms are a better choice. Uppers or lower arms will work but lowers are more common due to added strength.
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Also install 35 there's a lot of side to side movement


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Low caster can give that feeling too... Did you get the alignment done? Post the printout so we can help.
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...... Did you get the alignment done? Post the printout so we can help.
Yep, you need the print out to determine where to go next.

Lots of discussion regarding arms and brackets. Depending on your net lift, you may not even have a caster issue.

You've also changed tire - which could be a huge factor. What kind of tires?, what PSI? Have you confirmed they are well balanced?

Also - describe better what you mean by "drives like ass"
- wandering? flighty? Rigid? Death wobble?
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Wandering and flighty will get the print out soon thanks guys waiting for my guy to have time to put it on the rack


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Count me as another for arms

wandering and flighty will be fixed with arms. I had the same issue with the TF spacer lift and when I did the TF 2.5 with LCA it was like stock.
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1st - I noticed is you are all stock (no winch or steel bumpers) which means you don't have much weight to smooth out the new heavier springs. That will greatly affect ride quality.

2nd - you went to 35" tires right away which also affects ride quality on its own. What tire pressure are you running? Should be around 27psi on a light 2dr..

3rd - there is a difference between what the drop brackets (Geo brackets) do and what arms do. The only thing they have in common is they adjust caster/pinion angle. However, the Geo brackets also address the suspension geometry which control arms do not.

4th - put the stock tires on and see how it feels.




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My vote, metalcloak lower arms.
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It's only a 2.5" lift. There is absolutely no need for adjustable lower control arms. The caster is not that far out at 2.5" , hence the reason AEV doesn't include the Geo Brackets in their 2.5" lift.
I'll guarantee his issue is more related to the difference he feels going to stiffer springs and 35" tires.


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It's only a 2.5" lift. There is absolutely no need for adjustable lower control arms. The caster is not that far out at 2.5" , hence the reason AEV doesn't include the Geo Brackets in their 2.5" lift. I'll guarantee his issue is more related to the difference he feels going to stiffer springs and 35" tires. Jeff
Wait! What? There is no need to actually figure out what the issue is. Throwing arms or brackets on it is cool and then you can boast that you have caster correction (needed or not) on the Internet forums.
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It's only a 2.5" lift. There is absolutely no need for adjustable lower control arms. The caster is not that far out at 2.5" , hence the reason AEV doesn't include the Geo Brackets in their 2.5" lift.
I'll guarantee his issue is more related to the difference he feels going to stiffer springs and 35" tires.


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You can't really say that definitively. I've seen 2.5 lifts with 2deg caster... That sucks to drive. About 80% of the 2.5's I've done needed caster correction to be a quality driver. I'd rather see the alignment sheet than try to make a guarantee that my experience disagrees with.
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You can't really say that definitively. I've seen 2.5 lifts with 2deg caster... That sucks to drive. About 80% of the 2.5's I've done needed caster correction to be a quality driver. I'd rather see the alignment sheet than try to make a guarantee that my experience disagrees with.
Then you are likely getting more then 2.5" actual lift. You won't loose that much angle on 2.5". Unless the factory caster is really low to start with but I haven't seen that yet.
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Then you are likely getting more then 2.5" actual lift. You won't loose that much angle on 2.5". Unless the factory caster is really low to start with but I haven't seen that yet.
Or a combo of both which is prob the case.
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Have you contacted Teraflex about your issues? Sometimes a simple phone call can be very helpful...
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I have the same lift but added 1/2" front spacers to account for weight of bumper/winch combo. I went with the redesigned rancho geo brackets and am pleased. Yes, you lose a bit of clearance, but so far in the two outings we've been on I've had no issues with obstruction.

Whatever you do, do not let them install cam bolts when you take it in for alignment. My wife took the jeep in to get the initial alignment done and they only put the cam bolt on the passenger side. Luckily teraflex and synergy sell washers that alleviate that issue.
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drives like ass

May ask, just what does that mean?
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