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Old 01-28-2015, 11:46 PM   #91
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My JKU had a water leak at the front drivers side door. I didn't realize there was a leak until noticing a bad funk/mold smell a few days after it had rained. The carpet under the floor mat was soaking wet. Took it to the dealer, they had it for two days. Luckily they gave me a rental otherwise I would have been camping in the car sales lot. On the receipt they indicated both front door gaskets had been replaced. I also noticed they had adjusted the front drivers side door but didn't note that on the receipt. It was obvious because the door took considerably more force to close than before. I figured it would get better with time. A few weeks had passed without any change with the door so I looked everything over in detail. I observed the door had an even gap all around but was not sitting flush with the body. It was such that the top forward section of the door was depressed more so than any other place. Opening and slowly closing the door I definately could see that it was making contact in that area and causing interference. Something else I noticed, the foam behind the rubber gasket at the door opening was pushed down. This is the same area where the door is out of adjustment. So I take it back to the dealer, they said just a few hours to do the work and no rental this time. Well, two hours later they tell to take it to their body shop for adjustment. The receipt says they checked it out and everything was good, even made a note that it's normal for wrangler doors to be hard to shut. No mention of the damaged foam gasket. Hmmm, so I gathered the mechanics don't know how to fix it, they could have simply noted the body shop is better equipped for door adjustments. The customer service person was very courteous and assured me the door would be fixed. Now just need to schedule a time with their body shop. I'll post back an update once done.

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Old 01-30-2015, 09:13 AM   #92
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So I found an interesting guild while doing some googling on door leaks.

Might be helpful to someone,

http://home.comcast.net/~coinvanish/JKLeaks.pdf

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So I found an interesting guild while doing some googling on door leaks.

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http://home.comcast.net/~coinvanish/JKLeaks.pdf
Now this is some good information. In the positive direction!
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So I found an interesting guild while doing some googling on door leaks.

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http://home.comcast.net/~coinvanish/JKLeaks.pdf
I'm going to NAPA. I think I need some of that grease on my Hard Top Seal. I still get a little water drip on the center instrument panel and just had the Center Seal replaced on the Right Freedom Panel.
Rusty, have you ever noticed on the Hard Top Main Seal, if your seal sagged in the center. I did last summer.
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So I found an interesting guild while doing some googling on door leaks.

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http://home.comcast.net/~coinvanish/JKLeaks.pdf
Got some of that Sil-Glyde from NAPA and greased the entire Freedom Panel Seals. I noticed that the Center Seal is just a fabricated tube so I put grease in the hole of the front and rear of the Center Tube seal. And tightened the two hand knobs very tight. 16 out of a Max 18. Any further then 18 and you go thru the top. Haven't seen a leak yet. What I did notice when I had the tops off was some of the Foam Blocks were flattened. Get to them this summer.
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Good to know that the NAPA sealant is working. So I think the problem with the bottom of the door leak originates from the 1 foam block that is loacked just above the black rubber gasket where the a pillar meets the body.

The foam lasts about 1 week before it becomes crushed and scrunched up. I bet it a heavier duty foam is used in place of the existing then the leak could be fixed.

Ill have to try it once the weather warms up a tad.
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Good to know that the NAPA sealant is working. So I think the problem with the bottom of the door leak originates from the 1 foam block that is loacked just above the black rubber gasket where the a pillar meets the body.

The foam lasts about 1 week before it becomes crushed and scrunched up. I bet it a heavier duty foam is used in place of the existing then the leak could be fixed.

Ill have to try it once the weather warms up a tad.
Since you have an active interest in this! I have a vast knowledge of Chemical, Petroleums etc Adhaesives and Sealants Rubber and Vinyls.
The point I would like to bring up is some of Freedom Panels have Rubber Seals that are glued on or double sided tape. I don't recommend any sort of Conditioners and be careful with the Sil-Glyde grease as it will cause the adhesives to gel and become useless. I think ArmourAll will cause problems to as it is Petroleum Based. The only seals i've notice that aren't glued is the Doors and Rear Seal for Tail Gate and Back Lite Window.
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Old 02-19-2015, 02:55 PM   #98
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I had a leak in a 2 day old 2015 Rubicon and just wanted to mention to you guys, I printed the entire leak manual out and the dealership was very appreciative of it. The were able to find and then stop my leak...
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I had a leak in a 2 day old 2015 Rubicon and just wanted to mention to you guys, I printed the entire leak manual out and the dealership was very appreciative of it. The were able to find and then stop my leak...
It's not over yet. You better print out that Manual and order some Foam Block Kit for the Freedom Panel. Part of owning a Jeep is going to be a long battle of stopping the water from coming in. And those foam Blocks are what stops the water from coming in. You can get them from Mopar, Dealership, amazon, Qaudratec etc...
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I find it hard to justify spending $35k on a new vehicle that's pretty much guaranteed to leak.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:22 PM   #101
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I find it hard to justify spending $35k on a new vehicle that's pretty much guaranteed to leak.
Its a CONVERTIBLE. And most all Convertibles have leak issues. From Corvettes, Mustangs and those old muscle cars that you see grandma driving. But this isn't the place to cry about it. You can Post your own thread for that.
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Its a CONVERTIBLE. And most all Convertibles have leak issues. From Corvettes, Mustangs and those old muscle cars that you see grandma driving. But this isn't the place to cry about it. You can Post your own thread for that.
BS. I have a soft top 1988 with the original top sitting in the yard that leaks less than the 2014 X I had, and now the replacement 2015. THEY DON'T ALL LEAK - and it is not acceptable if they do.
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BS. I have a soft top 1988 with the original top sitting in the yard that leaks less than the 2014 X I had, and now the replacement 2015. THEY DON'T ALL LEAK - and it is not acceptable if they do.
ok so, post your own thread and go cry there.

And beside, i don't see where you lended your shoulder for "cwy42601" to cry on, so go troll somewhere else.
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BS. I have a soft top 1988 with the original top sitting in the yard that leaks less than the 2014 X I had, and now the replacement 2015. THEY DON'T ALL LEAK - and it is not acceptable if they do.
Ya know, you really go out of your way to call people liars. And you are barking up the wrong tree dude. Some of us worked toether in resolving these Freedom Panel Leaks issues. So, you know what you can do with your 2014 Jeep. Drive it off a cliff.
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Ya know, you really go out of your way to call people liars. And you are barking up the wrong tree dude. Some of us worked toether in resolving these Freedom Panel Leaks issues. So, you know what you can do with your 2014 Jeep. Drive it off a cliff.
I didn't call anyone a liar. But you are a jerk.
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Since you have an active interest in this! I have a vast knowledge of Chemical, Petroleums etc Adhaesives and Sealants Rubber and Vinyls.
The point I would like to bring up is some of Freedom Panels have Rubber Seals that are glued on or double sided tape. I don't recommend any sort of Conditioners and be careful with the Sil-Glyde grease as it will cause the adhesives to gel and become useless. I think ArmourAll will cause problems to as it is Petroleum Based. The only seals i've notice that aren't glued is the Doors and Rear Seal for Tail Gate and Back Lite Window.
What about a spray silicone lube?
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I noticed with that Sil-Glyde is that is thickens and is real hard to remove. Keep it around for that just in case. After cleaning I wetted a rag with Silicone spray and wiped the rubber mostly where it makes contact with the Freedom Panels. This helped cleaning the rubber too and when reseating the freedom panels I think it helps reseating/re-fitting the rubber. I also noticed after doing the Door Seal with Silicone, my door closes a lot smother now. I also noticed with the rubber seals after taking off the Freedom panel was there some sort of dried sticky stuff. That would cause problems. Which now reminds me, I need to figure out what to do with the Freedom Panels when I take them off. I use to just throw them in the back seat.
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Thanks for the answer john. I have a habit of wiping down old rubber parts with the belief it actual to some extent revitalizes it. Will adapt that mentality to new rubber as well.
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Good to know that the NAPA sealant is working. So I think the problem with the bottom of the door leak originates from the 1 foam block that is loacked just above the black rubber gasket where the a pillar meets the body.

The foam lasts about 1 week before it becomes crushed and scrunched up. I bet it a heavier duty foam is used in place of the existing then the leak could be fixed.

Ill have to try it once the weather warms up a tad.
Took the 2 Freedom Panels off to do some cleaning and inspection on the seals. It looks like the windshield Seal is taking some damage from the tab on the forward edge of the freedom panel. I really couldn't tell if one had actually worn thru the rubber. It sort of looked like it had a pin hole. And the tab on the panel had a rough edge on it. I filed it off. Check the pictures.
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Dear fellow Jeepers,

I would like to share with you how the dreaded door leak was solved on my wrangler.

I was dealing with an annoying drives side door leak for about 5 months, 6 or 7 trips to the dealership and many countless hours pulling my hair out on what was wrong.

After multiple header and door seals and adjusted door catches, the problem was solved when the dealership added additional foam at the area where the windshield frame meets to the body. That bend is where the water was working its way in.

Also, for anyone currently experiencing a door leak try taking an old towel, rolling it up and sticking next to the door sill. It will catch water that is making its way into your jeep from the door seals and keep your carpets dry.
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Dear fellow Jeepers, I would like to share with you how the dreaded door leak was solved on my wrangler. I was dealing with an annoying drives side door leak for about 5 months, 6 or 7 trips to the dealership and many countless hours pulling my hair out on what was wrong. After multiple header and door seals and adjusted door catches, the problem was solved when the dealership added additional foam at the area where the windshield frame meets to the body. That bend is where the water was working its way in. Also, for anyone currently experiencing a door leak try taking an old towel, rolling it up and sticking next to the door sill. It will catch water that is making its way into your jeep from the door seals and keep your carpets dry.
RUSTY, could you post a pic please
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Water Leaks

This thread is like gold for me, I have leaks in both front doors as well as in the hatch, causing rust damage on the brackets of my rear speaker.

This seems to be a design flaw, given so many members have the very same problem.

I have another "common" problem which is the constant "gas cap open" or something similar, I see this problem has a well read thread here too. How many other threads are there addressing problems that are so wide spread?

That's enough, I know I've wondered off topic and muddied the issue which is water leaks!
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RUSTY, could you post a pic please
x2 on this pls!!
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x2 on this pls!!
X3. I think the bend he is talking about is when you fold down the windshield on the hood. Quote me if I'm wrong.
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This thread is like gold for me, I have leaks in both front doors as well as in the hatch, causing rust damage on the brackets of my rear speaker.

This seems to be a design flaw, given so many members have the very same problem.

I have another "common" problem which is the constant "gas cap open" or something similar, I see this problem has a well read thread here too. How many other threads are there addressing problems that are so wide spread?

That's enough, I know I've wondered off topic and muddied the issue which is water leaks!
I can help you or at least get you pointed in the right direction. First thing is getting all the materials to fix these problems. Foam kit, alcohol, 3M Adhesive Remover Spray etc..
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Hope this helps. Forgot i had it. Look at item 28 on last page
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Try this. Item 28 last page
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Hi everyone, sorry I havnt been on the forum in s few days. I'm just reading this now.

From the pic I added you can kinda see that there are two layers of foam strips behind the black rubber piece. That little extra foam I think is what is doing the trick ( knock on wood)
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Hi everyone, sorry I havnt been on the forum in s few days. I'm just reading this now.

From the pic I added you can kinda see that there are two layers of foam strips behind the black rubber piece. That little extra foam I think is what is doing the trick ( knock on wood)
This area leaking is what was causing your front driver side carpet to get wet close the the plastics that covers the sill correct?

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