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Old 06-10-2015, 06:10 PM   #151
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I'm curious about something. Just had my header and door seals replaced today. The latest part number for the door seals ends in au and the windshield header ends in aj. Does anyone know if they modified the seals to work better?
Sounds like they are putting after market Model T spares on your Jeep. LOL Just kidding. How is anyone suppose to answer this question without a Jeep Year? How can you debate the Part Number. Do you already know the answer. What are you comparing these part numbers to.

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Sorry about that. I have a 2013, I tried looking all over for what the original part numbers were, I would assume the last two letters when they started were aa since that seems to be the case with some of the other seals. As they revise things the numbers stay the say it's just changing the letters

Also I was told the old ones were extremely worn, does this mean every 2 years in gonna have to replace them? What am I doing that wears out the door seals?

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soo helpful.... going to see if I can fix my jk . tomorrow
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Sorry about that. I have a 2013, I tried looking all over for what the original part numbers were, I would assume the last two letters when they started were aa since that seems to be the case with some of the other seals. As they revise things the numbers stay the say it's just changing the letters

Also I was told the old ones were extremely worn, does this mean every 2 years in gonna have to replace them? What am I doing that wears out the door seals?
Go to www.Factorychryslerparts.com
You should take a hard look and pictures of your seals. And inspect the seals as much as you can. You be the judge and learn how to fix the Jeep leaks. Doesn't take Rocket Science to fix this stuff. I refuse to take mine to the dealership to be fixed. Not going to happen.
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Thanks for info, I'll check it out. Usually I never deal with a dealer. I'm under warranty for another year so they can deal with it for now.
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Ok so I have the Butyl tape and some Super Lube in my basket on Amazon.com. The MOPAR foam kit states for years '11-15, so that won't work on my '08 (as far as I know). This is to fix the major leak I have with the freedom panels on the passenger side front. Every time is rains, the door, dashboard vent, and floor are sopping wet.
So I'll be good with the butyl tape and lube you think?
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Old 06-17-2015, 12:34 PM   #157
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Ok so I have the Butyl tape and some Super Lube in my basket on Amazon.com. The MOPAR foam kit states for years '11-15, so that won't work on my '08 (as far as I know). This is to fix the major leak I have with the freedom panels on the passenger side front. Every time is rains, the door, dashboard vent, and floor are sopping wet.
So I'll be good with the butyl tape and lube you think?
Ok, gonna do it yourself. Dont use the Lube. YET! Save it for last resort or pre winter rain season. Those are my plans. As far as the Black Butly Tape, you can get a whole roll for the same price. The seals on your Jeep are only held on by some sort of sticky tape. After a while they come loose and tear off when you take the Freedom Panels off. Take a small Flat Screw driver and kinda look around under the seals looking for tears. You will most likely find some. Especially the windshield corners and the Main top Seal Corners. That would be A and B Pillars.
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Ok, gonna do it yourself. Dont use the Lube. YET! Save it for last resort or pre winter rain season. Those are my plans. As far as the Black Butly Tape, you can get a whole roll for the same price. The seals on your Jeep are only held on by some sort of sticky tape. After a while they come loose and tear off when you take the Freedom Panels off. Take a small Flat Screw driver and kinda look around under the seals looking for tears. You will most likely find some. Especially the windshield corners and the Main top Seal Corners. That would be A and B Pillars.
Thank you. Will do. Just going to get both and roll with it. I want to fix this sh** myself. Tired of driving around with a towel wedged in the corner of the passenger door.
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Pieces of the foam stickies on the freedom tops have come off, or are worn. Does this butyl tape take it's place? I'm reading that the MOPAR foam blocker kit is only good on '11-'15 years. Mine is a 2008. Just want to be sure I can stick some of the butyl tape on there instead of finding sticky foam.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:33 PM   #160
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No, butyl tape is sticky all the way around and what ever it comes in contact with will create a bond. The bond can easily be broken but keep in mind on a hot summer day, it's like stringy chewing gum. Used to install windshields prior to urethane set installations. You can put behind the foam but don't use it in place of the foam. I believe I actually solved my leak problem on the floor boards. I did put some butyl behind the rubber seal half way down the door frame. So far so good!
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My 2015 JKUR just spent 2 days at the dealer for A pillar and center panel leaks. The service advisor knew the problem right away. They replaced the header seal and freedom top seals. Hopefully it is fixed!
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:47 PM   #162
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I used the butyl tape where we thought the leak was coming from, then put electrical tape on the outside of it so it wouldn't stick to the door frame. And now it won't rain of course. We did pour some water over the top and nothing got in, so hopefully that took care of it. But time will tell.
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After the hard rains we had today, still leaking. Scheduled to go back to the dealer on the 7th for round two. Can't take it in next week because we are going on vacation.
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After the hard rains we had today, still leaking. Scheduled to go back to the dealer on the 7th for round two. Can't take it in next week because we are going on vacation.
I'm sort of confused as to why we need to know about your problem. The purpose of these Posts on Forums is so we can work together and fix these problems. Have you tried t locate leak. Hum No. Read the How To Fix Thread. Hum No.
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Pieces of the foam stickies on the freedom tops have come off, or are worn. Does this butyl tape take it's place? I'm reading that the MOPAR foam blocker kit is only good on '11-'15 years. Mine is a 2008. Just want to be sure I can stick some of the butyl tape on there instead of finding sticky foam.
I have a 09 Rubicon. I order the Foam Kits. You just get extra pieces so it seems. The butyl tapel does not take it place. Strange you ask that question. LOL. Huh.
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I'm sort of confused as to why we need to know about your problem. The purpose of these Posts on Forums is so we can work together and fix these problems. Have you tried t locate leak. Hum No. Read the How To Fix Thread. Hum No.
For the same reason everyone else posts their problems. My first post was to hopefully let people know there may be a dealer fix by replacing the header and freedom top seals. My other post was to simply say the dealer fix didn't work. Sorry to have upset you but we are all good.
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Dealer's third attempt failed, even after providing them with photo showing water running down A pillar on passenger side. Their solution was to replace the A pillar mucket foam...which they had previously replaced a few weeks ago. Replacing the driver's side door seal on the last visit appears to have greatly improved the leaking on that side. I'm finding it hard to believe they are actually testing their supposed fixes. A mere .03 inch rain overnight dampened the carpet. Simulated rain with car wash hose pointed in air over the top for a few minutes. Took more photos. I'm taking them the diagnosis road map. Apparently the "leak guy" isn't familiar with it as there has been no mention of windshield header seal or door fit check which seems in order. Just about lost my patience. Plan to take this up the food chain.
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The only way my a pillar leak was resolved was when the dealership doubled up the foam at the a pillar. They replaced the header and door seals probably 6 times, they replaced the a pillar foam 1 once and solves the problem.

Hopefully that was helpful for someone.

The dealership I went to has completely different procedures to finding and fixing leaks than the manual that's floating around on here.
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New here, I will get an intro post put up here soon. Just wanted to chime in here. I have a 2013 JKU that I bought as a CPO from a local dealer. Ive owned it for 2 months now and it has been in the shop for warranty work 4 times (including them them having it now). All for leaks. After 3 times of them not fixing the issue, I was able to get videos of the leak dripping in down the B Pillar, which I was told every time that it wasn't from there. I have emailed this document to them.

I really dont want to regret getting my JKU as I love driving it. Im just getting really sick of having to keep towels under the carpet under the driver seat and along the trim on the floor board. This matter has ended up with me being extremely frustrated with how the Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram dealership has conducted business and customer service. I have contacted all the way up the service director, who was more useless the "certified tech." Now, I have gone all the way to the top and have been talking to the owner.

I apologize for the rant and want to say thank you for this thread.

Edit: From the information I have been given on what was replaced. Driver side door seal and foam/mucket on A pillar. Not the top one but the one at the corner where the door comes in contact with the pillar on the middle (couldnt find the name of that if there is one.)
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New here, I will get an intro post put up here soon. Just wanted to chime in here. I have a 2013 JKU that I bought as a CPO from a local dealer. Ive owned it for 2 months now and it has been in the shop for warranty work 4 times (including them them having it now). All for leaks. After 3 times of them not fixing the issue, I was able to get videos of the leak dripping in down the B Pillar, which I was told every time that it wasn't from there. I have emailed this document to them.

I really dont want to regret getting my JKU as I love driving it. Im just getting really sick of having to keep towels under the carpet under the driver seat and along the trim on the floor board. This matter has ended up with me being extremely frustrated with how the Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram dealership has conducted business and customer service. I have contacted all the way up the service director, who was more useless the "certified tech." Now, I have gone all the way to the top and have been talking to the owner.

I apologize for the rant and want to say thank you for this thread.

Edit: From the information I have been given on what was replaced. Driver side door seal and foam/mucket on A pillar. Not the top one but the one at the corner where the door comes in contact with the pillar on the middle (couldnt find the name of that if there is one.)
So I guess you are not interested in trying to fix this problem your self. Theres plenty of info in here on how to fix this stuff. I'd tell you how to fix this but most people are Off To The Races and it usually is useless concept of getting someone to fix their own Jeep.
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So I guess you are not interested in trying to fix this problem your self. Theres plenty of info in here on how to fix this stuff. I'd tell you how to fix this but most people are Off To The Races and it usually is useless concept of getting someone to fix their own Jeep.
Well, since the Jeep is under warranty I should not have to spend my time and money on fixing this issue. I read the entire document and emailed it to my service tech so they could replace that for FREE. I'm far from a novice when it comes to fixing the issue myself if it is not covered by the dealer. I applaud you on fixing EVERYTHING on your own. The point of spending the money that I worked for to purchase the vehicle on parts for the vehicle that was sold to me does not seem right, which is why they use warranties.

I know I am new to this forum, but I'm not new to all of them. Since you like to instantly bash on people you fit right into a classic forum based stereotype. Forums can be filled with a lot of useful users and information. Although, for every good couple users there is an ass hat burning people for not doing it their way. If you have a warranty on your Jeep and do not use it, congrats. You're exactly what the service departments want. Me on the other hand, if I have it why not use it.

Thanks for the advice.
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Well, since the Jeep is under warranty I should not have to spend my time and money on fixing this issue. I read the entire document and emailed it to my service tech so they could replace that for FREE. I'm far from a novice when it comes to fixing the issue myself if it is not covered by the dealer. I applaud you on fixing EVERYTHING on your own. The point of spending the money that I worked for to purchase the vehicle on parts for the vehicle that was sold to me does not seem right, which is why they use warranties. I know I am new to this forum, but I'm not new to all of them. Since you like to instantly bash on people you fit right into a classic forum based stereotype. Forums can be filled with a lot of useful users and information. Although, for every good couple users there is an ass hat burning people for not doing it their way. If you have a warranty on your Jeep and do not use it, congrats. You're exactly what the service departments want. Me on the other hand, if I have it why not use it. Thanks for the advice.
Hey pjerzy, I feel your pain. Leaks are the most annoying thing, I agree 100% that if the vehicle is under warranty the dealership should foot the bill for any and all fixes. I have that leak on my hard top sometimes but I just readjust the top and it fixes that problem. The soft top seems to be trickier because the top has a lot of folds at that point. Maybe there's a flap or Velcro that isn't closing properly?
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I can help you or at least get you pointed in the right direction. First thing is getting all the materials to fix these problems. Foam kit, alcohol, 3M Adhesive Remover Spray etc..
Thanks for the great offer of help John, as you can see, I have been away from the web several months due to health.

I'm hoping of dealing with this issue in August when the weather is dry but not quite as warm as it is right now. You have done a wonderful job of showing us what needs to be done and how, here along with the input of other members, all of you I thank very much as this has been an issue with my jeep ever since I bought it in 2011.

Time to dig in and prepare my order list and get it ready for the dry season to install.

Thanks again for a great job on this issue,

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Thanks for the great offer of help John, as you can see, I have been away from the web several months due to health.

I'm hoping of dealing with this issue in August when the weather is dry but not quite as warm as it is right now. You have done a wonderful job of showing us what needs to be done and how, here along with the input of other members, all of you I thank very much as this has been an issue with my jeep ever since I bought it in 2011.

Time to dig in and prepare my order list and get it ready for the dry season to install.

Thanks again for a great job on this issue,

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I've been working on list my self. I just purchased 12 feet of the 3M Window Weld Auto Glass Ribbon Sealer which is the same thing as the Black Butyl Tape. Sorry to hear about the health issues. We all sweat that. Other good cleaners I use are Lighter Fluid and Charcoal Fluid. But the Adhesive Remover Spray always is used last. Its a dry cleaner. Kinda like TrichlorTrifluorEthane. Nasty Stuff.
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I gave up. I appreciate the info provided here. I shared it with my dealer's service writer but it was ignored apparently. I provided photos showing where it was running in. Was told three times it was confirmed as being repaired when it wasn't. I'm not interested in fighting with the dealer or Chrysler trying to get this sorted out. It's someone else's problem now.
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On the Right Freedom Panel is the Center Seal. Has anyone Sealed all four sides of the Seal. I did mine with the Black Butyly Tape. There doesn't seem to be much holding that seal down to the panel. If you look from the top and peel the rubber back its about 1.5 inches and water can easily just sit there.
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Hey pjerzy, I feel your pain. Leaks are the most annoying thing, I agree 100% that if the vehicle is under warranty the dealership should foot the bill for any and all fixes. I have that leak on my hard top sometimes but I just readjust the top and it fixes that problem. The soft top seems to be trickier because the top has a lot of folds at that point. Maybe there's a flap or Velcro that isn't closing properly?
I have a hard top so I hoped that would have been easier to figure it out for the dealer. I have it back for the 4th time now I'm just waiting for the T-storms that are supposed to happen today. Thanks
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I have a hard top so I hoped that would have been easier to figure it out for the dealer. I have it back for the 4th time now I'm just waiting for the T-storms that are supposed to happen today. Thanks
Have you ever removed the rear hard top section? Maybe it needs to be realigned?
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Have you ever removed the rear hard top section? Maybe it needs to be realigned?
I personally have not, but the previous owner could have. I have a 13 JKUS. After me contacting multiple people that are higher up at the dealer they replaced the part that i suspected to be the problem, due to where the leak was coming from. We have a lot of heavy rain over the weekend and there was no leaks. I even made sure i took my tops off a few times after the installed the new seals and before the rain. So, ill ride around with towels on the floors but thats ok with me, better than water in there.
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Here is a manual regarding Jeep Wrangler (JK) water leaks. The diagnostic information is accurate, but the part #'s may not be valid for all model years,

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I posted this manual in a few threads but thought it might be easier to find for those interested if it had it's own thread, hope it helps out...
Thanks, I was sad to see my 1 week JKUR had a huge puddle under the left hand passenger seat

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