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Old 12-03-2015, 12:20 AM
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JKU best sway bar disco

im going to order a jku willys. what i want is a good sway bar disco setup thats simple quick and above all tough all while not being in the way of anything like if im at full steering lock and flexed. whats the best sway bar disco kit for a jku ? i dont mind if they are a little pricey if they are worth the money. i figure build it solid and get my money worth.

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Many here including myself run JKS. They are stout, adjustable, greasable and can be taken off and put back on on unlevel ground with little effort.

The JKS discos come completely off so you have only to zip tie or bungee cord the sway bar.


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yes hard to beat the JKS. If you want to get real fancy check out the flex link from JKS.
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Another vote for JKS. I have the lanyards to tie the sway bar up when disconnected.
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Can those JKS FlexConnect things be disconnected? I see in the photo above it looks like it but its not shown that way on their web site.
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Can those JKS FlexConnect things be disconnected? I see in the photo above it looks like it but its not shown that way on their web site.
yes and it makes swapping springs about a 5-10 minute job.
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Loving this for my Sahara!

Question: does it impact the handling of your rig having a stretchable Flex link like that?
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Question: does it impact the handling of your rig having a stretchable sway bar link like that?
only in a positive way if you get the spring pack. If just installing stock I noticed no difference one way or another. With the spring pack yellow spring it is very nice addition and much improved ride..
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Thanks for quick response and detailed link!

Sorry for the barrage of questions. I have a 2014 Unlimited Sahara with:
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I am very pleased with the ride and the handling as-is, but would like to get less bouncing when I go off-road.

This product looks like the ticket, but I am concerned that adding flex to the sway bar link may end up making my Jeep lean more heavily on corners. Do you think this will compromise the on-highway handling in any manner?
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Thanks for quick response and detailed link!

Sorry for the barrage of questions. I have a 2014 Unlimited Sahara with:
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  3. 2" spacer lift

I am very pleased with the ride and the handling as-is, but would like to get less bouncing when I go off-road.

This product looks like the ticket, but I am concerned that adding flex to the sway bar link may end up making my Jeep lean more heavily on corners. Do you think this will compromise the on-highway handling in any manner?
Ok a little update. Again my build is a 14 jkur with 2.5" RK lift with Rancho 5000's shocks so it is a smooth riding jeep from the get go. I swap back and forth between Toyo 35x12.5-17 AT2 tires and BFG ko2 34x10.5-17 so on any given day I might be running E rated toyos or D rated BFG's..(I have found tires have no bearing on how mine rides with or without the flex links)

I have had the chance to put a few miles on the flex links and have over 500 miles on the links using the red springs and found them to be very similar to the stock springs which feel no different then stock swaybar links seat of the pants. No better no worse. I took a 450 mile road trip on Monday this week which included 75-80mph twisty roads and I have done this same trip many times including several this year so I have a good basis for comparison and I would bet money that nobody could tell the difference on this trip between stock links, stock flex links and flex links with the red springs.

Ok now for better news. I have now installed the yellow springs and bingo this is the springs that JKS should be including with the links. Immediate seat of the pants difference. All good no negative. I have a set of S curves that I drive every day and max speed is 30-35mph max (even guys with sport cars slow way down and with the yellow springs handled beautifully just like stock links no undue unsettled feeling at all.
I also have a dirt road close by that looks like a mine field test site and with stock links as well as with the flex links running stock springs and the red springs you had to slow down because it was such a jarring ride it would knock your fillings out. If you run dirt roads that turn to washboard roads this is what it is only there are pot holes every where too.

It is the perfect test road to see if your shocks will fade and how well the flex link works. I hit the road with the yellow springs and was amazed at how much faster I could drive and be in control and not get beat to death or have my rig want to bounce off the road. The links with the yellow springs installed totally took the edge off. Kind of feels like a well set up IFS. What makes me even more impressed I actually had my tires pumped to 36psi and I normally run 26-28psi.

Had the links came with the yellow springs I would have been happy from the get go. I have not found any negative on using the yellow springs and really think they should be standard. I have done some intentional evasive action driving to see if the jeep would react safely and it felt very settled. I have done the same think disconnected and had much less control. The yellow springs in the flex links seem to handle this type of driving much the same as being fully connected with stock links again no negatives and only positives from using the Yellow springs.

I will put some more miles on and then install the softest blue springs and see how they feel but for the time being I am very happy with the yellow springs.

It is about a 10 minute job to swap springs and no technical skill is required. If you can unscrew a bottle cap you can swap springs. I know somewhere it was mentioned that the springs would be the only wear item but after seeing the springs I believe they are lifetime springs I doubt they will wear out. They look like race car valve springs. I had a set of the jks adjustable disco links which have the same bushings and my buddy is running them now and they have around 60,000 miles and the bushings are still going strong so the bushings will last a long time too.

One other thing they quick disconnect set up works very well and works exactly like jks quick disconnect links work. You of course only have to do one side on these tho instead of both. I think with the quick disconnect set up you could literally do a spring swap in under 3 minutes if you wanted to.

When I get a chance to do some hardcore offroading (planning on Moab in Jan or feb) I will put in the blue springs and give a full eval on those but again I will say the Yellow springs feel pretty nice.
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I picked up some rubicon express links last week from our local 4 wheel parts. Look very similar to the JKS, but no strap.. Looked at JKS but these were in stock at a decent price. Happy with them after one run. installed in about 30 minutes...in a a rainstorm no less.
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Sorry for the silly questions: how do you determine the length of the link? Does it change how the Jeep handles if the link is tight/short or loose/long?
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I think the angle up or down can be 5% but I could be wrong. I also run the JKS dis-connects.
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Sorry for the silly questions: how do you determine the length of the link? Does it change how the Jeep handles if the link is tight/short or loose/long?
see above post 10. and below link for adjustment.

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Seems like a pretty clear j k s, I looked at the terra flex setup mainly from the funny video.
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I picked up some rubicon express links last week from our local 4 wheel parts. Look very similar to the JKS, but no strap.. Looked at JKS but these were in stock at a decent price. Happy with them after one run. installed in about 30 minutes...in a a rainstorm no less.
There is a good reason why the Rubicon Express links look very similar to JKS. Think the exact same design, only made in a different country without our permission with inferior components...
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Can those JKS FlexConnect things be disconnected? I see in the photo above it looks like it but its not shown that way on their web site.
The Flex Connect is compatible with our new 1/2" Disconnect Hardware. We are working on new Flex Connect kits that will include the hardware for one side. In the mean time we can set you up with the proper pieces to do it yourself while we're waiting for the new packaging to be ready!
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Sorry for the silly questions: how do you determine the length of the link? Does it change how the Jeep handles if the link is tight/short or loose/long?
There are no silly questions when discussing moving parts!

The Flex connect is a set length as of right now and is compatible with 2"-5" conventional short arm suspension systems (the link itself is 9 3/4")

As another poster said, you have a little bit of forgiveness with link length. Ideally you want it level for maximum engagement of the swaybar. If it's a little long or short you are technically reducing it's leverage and changing how the sway bar reacts. I prefer to run mine slightly positive just to make sure nothing gets tugged on during extension. You only really run into trouble when you're link is too long and stuffing your sway bar into your Jeep or too short, over extending the sway bar during droop, both causing their own form of shenanigans and potential breakage.
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There is a good reason why the Rubicon Express links look very similar to JKS. Think the exact same design, only made in a different country without our permission with inferior components...
Well, had I known that.....

I did really look at the JKS, but the guys that sell them locally were out of the ones I needed. Needed them the next day.
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I picked up some rubicon express links last week from our local 4 wheel parts. Look very similar to the JKS, but no strap.. Looked at JKS but these were in stock at a decent price. Happy with them after one run. installed in about 30 minutes...in a a rainstorm no less.
They look like JKS because they are JKS made for Rubicon Express in their colors at least that's what I was told at my local 4 wheel parts store when I asked about them.
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They look like JKS because they are JKS made for Rubicon Express in their colors at least that's what I was told at my local 4 wheel parts store when I asked about them.
I don't think so. I think a Chinese copy. I can tell you for fact that I had a set of the jks discos that have over 60000 miles on them and the bushings are still going strong. I would be surprised if the RE last that long.
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They look like JKS because they are JKS made for Rubicon Express in their colors at least that's what I was told at my local 4 wheel parts store when I asked about them.
That is a total lie. The Rubicon Express disconnects are a blatant copy of the JKS Quicker disconnect, made in Asia by people making slave wages using inferior components and manufacturing practices. You'll notice we no longer do business with Transamerican Wholesale (4Wheel Part's and Rubicon Express's parent company), we wouldn't stand for this type of thing. We have heard all kinds of crazy stories told by 4WP employees like the one above to cover for 4WP's inability to sell the JKS line. Other gems include: JKS has gone out of business, "JKS discontinued the Quicker Disconnect for JKs, BUT CHECK OUT THIS SWEET RUBICON EXPRESS DISCONNECT!!!!,"JKS inferior quality forced us to reconsider carrying the line... and many more...


Transamerican has done this before ... I don't normally brand bash, even if I don't like a product, but this sort of behavior is bad for the industry and bad for the customers companies like us and many others work so hard to serve.

If anyone here has Rubicon Express copies (PN R/E 1132) who doesn't want to stand for this and would like to throw them in the trash can get in touch with me and I'll see what I can do to get you special pricing on a set of the real JKS 2034 links. It will require proof that you're throwing your 1132's away
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That is a total lie. The Rubicon Express disconnects are a blatant copy of the JKS Quicker disconnect, made in Asia by people making slave wages using inferior components and manufacturing practices. You'll notice we no longer do business with Transamerican Wholesale (4Wheel Part's and Rubicon Express's parent company), we wouldn't stand for this type of thing. We have heard all kinds of crazy stories told by 4WP employees like the one above to cover for 4WP's inability to sell the JKS line. Other gems include: JKS has gone out of business, "JKS discontinued the Quicker Disconnect for JKs, BUT CHECK OUT THIS SWEET RUBICON EXPRESS DISCONNECT!!!!,"JKS inferior quality forced us to reconsider carrying the line... and many more...

Transamerican has done this before ... I don't normally brand bash, even if I don't like a product, but this sort of behavior is bad for the industry and bad for the customers companies like us and many others work so hard to serve.

If anyone here has Rubicon Express copies (PN R/E 1132) who doesn't want to stand for this and would like to throw them in the trash can get in touch with me and I'll see what I can do to get you special pricing on a set of the real JKS 2034 links. It will require proof that you're throwing your 1132's away
If I could get a good price on the JKS 2034 it would prevent me from buying the RE Discos. A couple guys I know run them and have had no issues out of them, but in all fairness I've always heard the JKS was the better brand. I know one guy running the RE brand has over 40,000 miles on them no issues. Send me a price quote.
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If I could get a good price on the JKS 2034 it would prevent me from buying the RE Discos. A couple guys I know run them and have had no issues out of them, but in all fairness I've always heard the JKS was the better brand. I know one guy running the RE brand has over 40,000 miles on them no issues. Send me a price quote.
I'm not advocating playing price wars, that isn't want JKS is about. We created the product and hand build them in Nebraska. The Rubicon Express links are a direct copy of the JKS links made in China, if you really want to support that and you really think that behavior is justifiable in order to save $50, go ahead and purchase a set. This specific offer is for forum members who already have a set and were told lies by 4WP when they purchased the links.

In the mean time I will always give forum members special pricing if you contact me, that is about supporting the forum. I like this forum and will do whatever I can to help members out.
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I'm not advocating playing price wars, that isn't want JKS is about. We created the product and hand build them in Nebraska. The Rubicon Express links are a direct copy of the JKS links made in China, if you really want to support that and you really think that behavior is justifiable in order to save $50, go ahead and purchase a set. This specific offer is for forum members who already have a set and were told lies by 4WP when they purchased the links.

In the mean time I will always give forum members special pricing if you contact me, that is about supporting the forum. I like this forum and will do whatever I can to help members out.
For the record I don't advocate that and I so feel the JKS is the better product. I'm really more interested in the flex connects than the quick Discos.
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I picked up some rubicon express links last week from our local 4 wheel parts. Look very similar to the JKS, but no strap.. Looked at JKS but these were in stock at a decent price. Happy with them after one run. installed in about 30 minutes...in a a rainstorm no less.
Here are some fun facts about Rubicon Expresses ability to counterfeit a product without understand the nuances of quality:

If you look at the image here you'll notice that the one thing Rubicon Express changed was the zerk fittings, they went to a closed ball type fitting.

One of the most common questions and complaints we get about the Quicker Disconnects is that we use an open fitting with a cap. We do it for a reason: an open fitting tells doesn't let you overfill it with grease. If you put too much grease in, it will come out the open fitting when full. With a closed fitting it seals the system allowing it to overpressurize. With a sealed zerk, when you over fill the link end, or you fill it to the brim and then it gets hot which causes the contents to expand, grease will seek the path of least resistance pushing out of the ends and coating the bushings and disconnect studs and the threads with grease and grime, making the whole thing a mess. With the open fitting, yes, you have that cap to worry about and yes, sometimes it breaks off and you have to spend $.35 on a new one, small price to pay for it a part to work to its full potential if you ask us.

When they ripped off the 2034, they changed the fitting. You'll notice that RE links tend to be a lot grimier. They'll also tend to wear the spherical bushings (which are also a cheap knock off) faster because they are easily over saturated with grease and soften. Oh and the image on Rubicon Express's website? Spray painted JKS links, I guess the knock offs weren't ready for photo day.

Pretty crazy huh? All this to save $35...
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For the record I don't advocate that and I so feel the JKS is the better product. I'm really more interested in the flex connects than the quick Discos.
I didn't mean to put you on blast there, just wanted to make sure our stance is clear. We work very hard on our products and feel very strongly that you respect other companies, because we all work hard.

We feel that these dishonest tactics inexcusable. The best thing for this industry is healthy competition, underhanded tactics and cheating is bad for the aftermarket industry, just like it's bad for other industries (and our entire country's socioeconomic wellbeing, but that's another topic for another place).

At JKS we do what we feel is best for us as a company as well as the Jeep Community as a whole, if an action doesn't fit either of those molds, we don't do it. A healthy community keeps us paid and keeps the our lifestyle alive to share with future generations. Actions like what went down with our link undermine that, and we take that seriously.
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I didn't mean to put you on blast there, just wanted to make sure our stance is clear. We work very hard on our products and feel very strongly that you respect other companies, because we all work hard. We feel that these dishonest tactics inexcusable. The best thing for this industry is healthy competition, underhanded tactics and cheating is bad for the aftermarket industry, just like it's bad for other industries (and our entire country's socioeconomic wellbeing, but that's another topic for another place). At JKS we do what we feel is best for us as a company as well as the Jeep Community as a whole, if an action doesn't fit either of those molds, we don't do it. A healthy community keeps us paid and keeps the our lifestyle alive to share with future generations. Actions like what went down with our link undermine that, and we take that seriously.
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I was wondering how easy it would be to disconnect these.
extremely easy.

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