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Old 10-01-2014, 06:05 PM
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locker/regear job price opinion

Here is my quote

Parts:

front and rear air lockers , front and rear ring/pinions 4.88 or 5.13 , and front and rear overhaul kits* and front and rear poison spyder diff covers

with ARB********** 3300.00
with Yukon zip** 3000.00
for 4.56 ratio add 150.00

Labour:

6 hrs per diff for the ratio change and the air locker install would add probably 2 hrs per diff (drilling the housing , routing hoses , wires , assembling the locker )

Rate: 80.00$/hr

1280$ in labour. 3300$ parts= 4580$ for the whole job. Maybe 500$ less if I don't take the cover and go with Yukon.

What you guys think

I got a different quote but so far not the best but definitely the most trustable place to get this done.

I need advise ass this is something I don't know a thing about. I just know I need/want locker. Got stuck again recently where I'm sure it wouldn't had happen with locker (2 wheels in a soft spot and 2 on rocks, never got out of there. Had to shovel and winch)

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ARB's are top of the line, so your price is not too bad. let's say 1k for the locker, and 450-500 for the gears and setup kit. So you are around 1500 per axle. 3k for the parts. 1280 labor is a bit high. It is obviously a region thing, but I think you could be at a grand or less for labor.

That aside, make sure the place stands behind their install. Grill them. What happens when:

The gears are noisy
The diff is leaking.
Axle seals are leaking.
Pinion seals are leaking.
I have diff fluid in my air lines.

And how long are they going to stand behind the installation with these problems.


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Good advice.
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I've actually heard that no shop will give any kind of warranty on their work. Which I think its a little odd...like they could **** shit up and not be reliable for it. I heard that on this forum.
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I've actually heard that no shop will give any kind of warranty on their work. Which I think its a little odd...like they could **** shit up and not be reliable for it. I heard that on this forum.
Because you heard it on the internet it must be true lol. Where are you getting the work done? We have some local offroad shops that are sponsors on our Jeep club. Warranty or not, if they did a shitty job, their business and reputation would incur way more damage than the cost of repair if they didnt make it right. We have thousands of members. You need to find a shop you can trust. Folks who specialize in Jeeps.

What size tires you run for that gearing? I would be hesitant to lock a D30.
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I know that not everything you get on the net is true. Just trying to get the truth.

I'm in Canada so I doubt you can help me.

I have 33" but I hope rehear will make me good to go for 35" and yea I have a d30 at the front. You think its to light for locker and 35"
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Just throwing out another option for you.

Have you considered an LSD up front and full case locker for the rear?
Less expensive and less likely to break and axle shaft if you get bound up.


I had a Detroit Eaton true Trac put in the D30 front of my 07 X and ran 35's for years on it. Loved it. No problems at all.
Already had 4.10 gears as a factory option and Trac Loc in the rear so I left it alone.


I went to a local semi repair shop and had them install the True trac. It's a full case unit so I couldn't do it at home like a lunchbox locker.

They did the whole job in less than 4 hours for about $300. Compared to the massive tractor trailer axles they pull apart every day my little D30 looked like a toy.
With the Temkin bearing kit and shims I think the LSD was 450 total from Summit so less than grand all said and done.
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I'm not looking for cheap, Im looking for the right price for what I want. And the pros and cons if any or what not to do.
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My gear/locker installation ran just about $4100 (ARB lockers/4.88 Yukon gears/ARB diff covers/ARB compressor) so your price is a little higher, but in the ballpark.

My shop absolutely warranties their work. If they didn't, I wouldn't use them, especially for something as critical as gears/lockers. In fact, I had a leaking axle seal shortly after the work was done, and they replaced both seals at no cost to me.

I had some say that I shouldn't lock my D30, but it's been invaluable on a number of occasions for me. I'm easy on the skinny pedal and I don't use the front locker unless absolutely needed. I take trips to the hills and rocks in N. Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee 5-6 times a year, and I can get past obstacles where those without lockers can't. In Florida, on the soft beach sand, and even the mud, I rarely use the front locker, although the rear locker gets used frequently.

My hope is the D30 will last 3 more years, then I'll be ready to step up to a PR44 or possibly a D60.
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I've actually heard that no shop will give any kind of warranty on their work. Which I think its a little odd...like they could **** shit up and not be reliable for it. I heard that on this forum.
It is shop dependent. Quality shops will warranty their work for at least 30 days. I had a set of gears go out after 1200 miles and the shop only charged me for the parts because Yukon would not warranty the gears.

Your quote is reasonable but more importantly make sure the shop is reliable.
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It is shop dependent. Quality shops will warranty their work for at least 30 days. I had a set of gears go out after 1200 miles and the shop only charged me for the parts because Yukon would not warranty the gears.

Your quote is reasonable but more importantly make sure the shop is reliable.
For gears and lockers, I would expect more than a 30 day warranty. It took me longer than that to reach my 500 mile break-in period. I would be looking for at least a 3 month warranty for the shop to cover labor costs.

edit: for parts, Yukon's warranty is 1 year, and ARB's is 2 years or 24,000 miles, subject to all the caveats and disclaimers, etc.
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Really good info here. I guess the fact that I'm in Canada have something to see with the higher price.

I already have the spod and arb compressor installed and ready to go.

The shop I'm looking at dealing with have lots of reputation and experience with jk. It have been recommended to me by my parts dealer (to don't name any)
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Got an estimate somewhere else for 24h labour at 145$ /hour....

What is that ? Trying to rip someone off or a shop that have no clue what they are doing !?
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Holy crap that's high! Are they talking about pesos?
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Lol that's what I figured...its just retarded. The first place I got for about 14h total at 80$ an hour. But the place went out of business...maybe for a reason ? Idk. But now I'm looking for somewhere to get this done.
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Lol that's what I figured...its just retarded. The first place I got for about 14h total at 80$ an hour. But the place went out of business...maybe for a reason ? Idk. But now I'm looking for somewhere to get this done.
Hi
I know this old thread but I'm in Canada to Cambridge by Toronto.
Did you ever get this done? If so where? How much?
I'm looking for a shop also, where about are you in Canada hopefully close lol
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Do you have any local Jeep clubs up in Canada? Talk to folks there and see who they use.

I already have lockers but have quotes in the $1250-1500 range here in Phoenix for gears/labor.

Also suggest trussing at least the D30 - will buy you a little bit of strength up there.
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Do you have any local Jeep clubs up in Canada? Talk to folks there and see who they use. I already have lockers but have quotes in the $1250-1500 range here in Phoenix for gears/labor. Also suggest trussing at least the D30 - will buy you a little bit of strength up there.


That's good idea, I joined club this year and will try that.
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I got it done, I live in Alberta and went to Edmonton to get this done

Here it is:

Parts: (all from northridge4x4)

Arb front and rear
4.88 gear
Master overhaul and install kit
Poison spider diff cover front and rear
All for 3465$ all in

Installation at Alberta driveline in Edmonton
1610$ all in with synthetic diff oil.

Hope that helps, wasn't cheap but I'm happy.
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I got it done, I live in Alberta and went to Edmonton to get this done Here it is: Parts: (all from northridge4x4) Arb front and rear 4.88 gear Master overhaul and install kit Poison spider diff cover front and rear All for 3465$ all in Installation at Alberta driveline in Edmonton 1610$ all in with synthetic diff oil. Hope that helps, wasn't cheap but I'm happy.
Thanks a lot that helps
You got pretty good price for parts. I haven't price labour yet
I'd like to do ARB but deciding if i need it or can afford it
I'm looking at
4.88 gear master overhaul and install kit. $1200 aprox
Eaton E lockers front and rear about 2000 aprox
I have ARB diff covers already.
Appreciate it
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Very welcome, keep in mind electric locker and air locker work differently. Air locker engage and disengage pretty much instantly (as long as they are not loaded) e locker will take longer to engage and are not as reliable. You will get many different opinion but this is the reality tested on the trail. Arb are the best.

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