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Old 03-21-2015, 06:47 PM
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Looking for Feedback on Lift, Tires, Gears

I just bought a new 2015 JK Unlimited Sport and want to do some upgrades in the next few weeks. I have been reading all over the forum during the last week and think I have basically decided what I want to do but would like to see if there is anything i've missed or misunderstood.

First a little about my driving habits. This will sound ridiculous but during the 8 years I owned my previous vehicle I only put 15k miles on it. That may change a bit with the jeep but probably not much at least in the near future.
It will be my DD and used for camping and trail riding in the mountains in GW National Forest a few times a year and I would like to start getting into more off-roading in other areas. Probably no rock crawling or anthing heavy.

For lift kit ive pretty much decided on the AEV 2.5" Dual Sport and Geo Brackets. Everything ive read tells me it is a great balance of on and off road driving. Would this limit my ability to add bumpers or any other heavier aftermarket parts in the future if sitting on 35s?

I want to regear and go to 35" tires. I was thinking either 4.10 or 4.56. My JKU came with 3.21. Does that mean the regear will take more then just swapping in the new gears? I am not planning to go any bigger than 35s.

Im close to talking myself into 35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs on pro comp wheels. I ripped the sidewall of a 33" BFG AT on a bronco in the mountains and like the idea of the stronger sidewall. I was also thinking about the Duratracs which ive heard alot of positive comments on.

Ill be getting on the phone with a local shop (High Tech Auto and Truck in Chantilly, VA) on monday to see what they say about it all but I wanted to get some feedback here first.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and for all the info youve already given me.
Please let me know what you all think

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Lift and bumpers: most companies, like AEV, list their lifts for fully upgraded rigs. So prior to bumpers, etc. You will most likely get more than the advertised height.

Regear: you will need a new carrier for the front Dana 30 in addition to gears.

Tires: I think the GY dura are only 2 ply sidewall so no added strength there.

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Consider RK. I just installed my kit and it feels like it's been there for months. It feels settled and the drivability is just PERFECT. This is my initial observation of this kit and I do have experience with others.

It's priced affordable and more complete imo than others.
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I do not want to push my opinions on you but like the last post I also have a RK max travel and liked that you get adjustable control arms rather than the drop brackets that just reduces the clearance that you just added.
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Thanks for the responses!

Good to know i'll need the carrier, I had read you needed it if you didnt have a Rubi and wanted 4.10 but wasnt sure for lower.

I will check out the RK kits, hadnt really looked at them yet. If it helps out my budget it might be the way to go. I think im pretty much over it already
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Would this be the right kind of carrier for the new 4.56 gears?

Amazon.com: Yukon YCD706008 Differential Carrier Case for Dana 30 Axle: Automotive
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Thanks for the responses!

Good to know i'll need the carrier, I had read you needed it if you didnt have a Rubi and wanted 4.10 but wasnt sure for lower.

I will check out the RK kits, hadnt really looked at them yet. If it helps out my budget it might be the way to go. I think im pretty much over it already
Look further into the RK and RE kits.. Stay within 2.5 inch..unless you have a real reason to go further.. And you will be a happy camper.. And please,,, don't get caught up into any of the Snake Oil gimick's to improve your steering.. Trust Me! Stay within 2.5 inch lift with any reputable kit and you will be fine. Three and Four inch and beyond are meant for the Rocks or Dirt - Period !!! Some guys will argue that and insist on making them the ultimate Mall Crawler.. But hey.. if you're a Mall Crawler,, you have money to burn..
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I still highly rave about the RE kits. Priced affordable and drives awesome with added weight.
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Look further into the RK and RE kits.. Stay within 2.5 inch..unless you have a real reason to go further.. And you will be a happy camper.. And please,,, don't get caught up into any of the Snake Oil gimick's to improve your steering.. Trust Me! Stay within 2.5 inch lift with any reputable kit and you will be fine. Three and Four inch and beyond are meant for the Rocks or Dirt - Period !!! Some guys will argue that and insist on making them the ultimate Mall Crawler.. But hey.. if you're a Mall Crawler,, you have money to burn..
Thanks I will. Yeah I dont want anything higher than that. Not planning to do anything extreme since this will be my only vehicle.

If im doing the gears and have to upgrade the front carrier anyway does it make sense to put something like this in instead? Detroit Locker Part EAT912A585 - Dana 30 TrueTrac - 4 Wheel Drive
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I still highly rave about the RE kits. Priced affordable and drives awesome with added weight.
A friend of mine who used to work at the shop ill be talking to about doing all this also mentioned RE and that they like them there also and installed alot of them on jeeps so ill take a closer look at them
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You can check my re monostein review. I'll also be doing a RK review on Monday.
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The good year MTRs are a great choice. RE is a good lift company. For gears I went with 4.56 and think it is the perfect choice for 35s with automatic. 4.88 for manual. I wheel my Wrangler pretty hard and there are some steep hills on the way out to the desert. If you're a flat lander and don't wheel hard 4.10 may work for you but you get a major performance boost with the 4.56 gears...
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CephalicJKU,

please shoot me a PM about pricing. I have gear sets, lockers, and lift kits at 10% off and free shipping. I carry the lift kits you are looking at (not AEV), and can provide you with onestop shopping. Even the tires and wheels.

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Alright I ended up going in a different direction with the lift. Have all of the following ordered. Heading to the shop as soon as I can stuff it all in the back of my jeep.

Teraflex 2.5" lift kit
Teraflex Swaybar Quick Disconnects
JKS Adustable Front Track Bar
Teraflex Exhaust Spacer kit
Rancho 9000xl Front and Rear Shocks
Detroit Trutrac Rear LSD
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35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs
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and 4.56 gears provided by the shop

Really excited to get all this done!
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Alright I ended up going in a different direction with the lift. Have all of the following ordered. Heading to the shop as soon as I can stuff it all in the back of my jeep. Teraflex 2.5" lift kit Teraflex Swaybar Quick Disconnects JKS Adustable Front Track Bar Teraflex Exhaust Spacer kit Rancho 9000xl Front and Rear Shocks Detroit Trutrac Rear LSD Northridge Grade 8 Bolt upgrade kit 35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs 15x8 Level 8 Trackers and 4.56 gears provided by the shop Really excited to get all this done!
Looking good man!!!
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Alright I ended up going in a different direction with the lift. Have all of the following ordered. Heading to the shop as soon as I can stuff it all in the back of my jeep.

Teraflex 2.5" lift kit
Teraflex Swaybar Quick Disconnects
JKS Adustable Front Track Bar
Teraflex Exhaust Spacer kit
Rancho 9000xl Front and Rear Shocks
Detroit Trutrac Rear LSD
Northridge Grade 8 Bolt upgrade kit
35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs
15x8 Level 8 Trackers
and 4.56 gears provided by the shop

Really excited to get all this done!
Yeah, gotta like that! Just make sure you look at caster when the alignment is done.
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Alright I ended up going in a different direction with the lift. Have all of the following ordered. Heading to the shop as soon as I can stuff it all in the back of my jeep.

Teraflex 2.5" lift kit
Teraflex Swaybar Quick Disconnects
JKS Adustable Front Track Bar
Teraflex Exhaust Spacer kit
Rancho 9000xl Front and Rear Shocks
Detroit Trutrac Rear LSD
Northridge Grade 8 Bolt upgrade kit
35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs
15x8 Level 8 Trackers
and 4.56 gears provided by the shop

Really excited to get all this done!
That's a sweet build, and you will have a very capable trail rig! Not to mention you'll be able to zoom zoom around town too!
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build looks good to me! 15K in 8 years? are you kidding me?


I do that in 6 months....
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Would this be the right kind of carrier for the new 4.56 gears?

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yes, but be sure and get YPKD30-S-27 , the spider gears.
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Hello everyone...so I'm getting all the gearing talk going on and my question is abut the front differential. I am planning on running either the 4:10 or 4:56 gears on my 2011 JK once i lift and put my 35"s on. is there any gearing i need to address for the front. I have a Dana 44 rear with 3:73 in it and a Dana 30 up front. I am assuming there is nothing done to the front?
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Hello everyone...so I'm getting all the gearing talk going on and my question is abut the front differential. I am planning on running either the 4:10 or 4:56 gears on my 2011 JK once i lift and put my 35"s on. is there any gearing i need to address for the front. I have a Dana 44 rear with 3:73 in it and a Dana 30 up front. I am assuming there is nothing done to the front?
They both need to be done at the same time, if they are not the same ratio and you put it in 4wd you will create a catastrophic failure. You might want to go 4.88 also with a 2011.
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First a little about my driving habits. This will sound ridiculous but during the 8 years I owned my previous vehicle I only put 15k miles on it. That may change a bit with the jeep but probably not much at least in the near future.
It will be my DD and used for camping and trail riding in the mountains in GW National Forest a few times a year and I would like to start getting into more off-roading in other areas. Probably no rock crawling or anthing heavy.

I want to regear and go to 35" tires. I was thinking either 4.10 or 4.56. My JKU came with 3.21. Does that mean the regear will take more then just swapping in the new gears? I am not planning to go any bigger than 35s.

Im close to talking myself into 35x12.5x15 Goodyear MTRs on pro comp wheels. I ripped the sidewall of a 33" BFG AT on a bronco in the mountains and like the idea of the stronger sidewall. I was also thinking about the Duratracs which ive heard alot of positive comments on.
so i quoted what i wanted to respond to. i live in charlottesville, va so i am familiar with the roads and offroading options around here. also i have not read any other comments on this thread.

first thing, i thought i wouldn't be doing rock crawling either and now its one of my favorite things to do. also don't assume you won't go nuts after you "get bit" by offroading bug.

second, regear is the one thing people neglect that should be done VERY soon after lift and tires. it is a tremendous difference. with your lift, tires, this area, and the offroading you mentioned, i would recommend 4.56 or 4.88. it doesn't sound like you put a lot of miles on the highway given your count so you may like 4.88. someone in another forum put the gear selection like this and i like the analogy:
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3.21 Gearing on stock tires = 3.73 gearing on 35" tires = 4.10 gearing on 37" tires (basically a base JK feel.)
3.73 Gearing on stock tires = 4.10 gearing on 35" tires = 4.56 gearing on 37" tires (basically a JKU with the max tow package feel.)
4.10 Gearing on stock tires = 4.56 gearing on 35" tires = 4.88 gearing on 37" tires (basically a Rubicon feel.)
4.56 gears will basically get you feeling like a stock rubicon, but on 35s. if you want a little more, go 4.88 (drive a stock rubicon to feel the difference between yours and the stock rubicon)

i like your tire choice. i almost went that way but got a killer deal on nitto trail grapplers. duratracs are amazing road tires too that hold up very well off road.

i didn't comment on your lift because i honestly don't know anything about it.
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They both need to be done at the same time, if they are not the same ratio and you put it in 4wd you will create a catastrophic failure. You might want to go 4.88 also with a 2011.
so why you say the 4:88 gears
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so why you say the 4:88 gears
That's just what the common number is for a 3.8 auto. There is a chart that is like gospel. Should get your feeling back to stock.
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They both need to be done at the same time, if they are not the same ratio and you put it in 4wd you will create a catastrophic failure. You might want to go 4.88 also with a 2011.
Yeah, the 3.8 engine isn't up to par and the transmission final drive ratio is different. For 2007-2011 JK definitely go one lower as compared to the 2012 - 20xx.
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Thanks everyone! Tough waiting for everything to show up. Ill get some pics up after the install is done.
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Thanks to all who lent me their expertise. Just picked the jeep up today. Its night and day vs stock. I love it!

Some slight vibration in the steering wheel up around 60 mph, is that normal with mud terrains? Rides a little stiff over the crappy roads in my area, think i'll try adjusting my shocks. If you have the Rancho 9000xls what settings are you using?

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