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Old 11-19-2014, 05:45 PM
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Looks like a got the "JK Lean"..and possibly another problem

So I just got back from a little country road riding with a few rough creek crossings and noticed the lean..the jeep is relatively new to me still..came with a lift..3.5" im guessing and was never really taken off road...

So I have 3/4 tank of gas..and 3/4" of lean into the right rear...got to looking around and everything looks relatively squared up in the rear. Front looks normal with the exception of the passenger lower control arm..looks to be under tension or tweaked somehow..

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The driver side looks flush and straight..i was originally convinced the lean was prolly normal and just the first time noticing it..however, we are about to embark on a 1000mi road trip with this thing so i wanna be sure we will make it there and back lol

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Old 11-19-2014, 08:51 PM   #2
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1/2 puck spacer under the right side coil will fix it.

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looks like the bushing is completely gone in the control arm, maybe an optical illusion.
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1/2 puck spacer under the right side coil will fix it.
Thats what I keep reading as far as the sag..but that crooked looking control arm has me concerned
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Thats what I keep reading as far as the sag..but that crooked looking control arm has me concerned
just loosen the nut and straighten it.
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Those are aftermarket CAs so they may have joints instead of bushings. Either way the joint should not rest in that position. Either something is causing it to bind or the joint has failed. Judging by the looks of them those CA's have seen better days.
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Okay well that helps my thoughts..i was thinking about trying to straighten it up and yeah it does seem the bushing might be shot from what I can see here too
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I agree. I would loosen the jam nut and straighten it out for the time being and plan on new control arms or at the very least, new bushings if the arms are still serviceable.
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Look and see if the bushing is rebuild-able. Might be ya problem.
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I'm assuming the arms are still good..they look good anyway...Would the bushings be that hard to replace you think?
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I'm assuming the arms are still good..they look good anyway...Would the bushings be that hard to replace you think?
who makes them? Are they even rebuild able
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Could be a heim joint looks like it has a grease fitting?
Like the one on the right in this pic
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Post a pic of the springs please.
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Yeah each side has a grease fitting..the previous owner had this lift installed and cant remember what he had put on..so i havent had a chance to search for any numbers on the arms yet..they both look the same and have bends in them in the same spots..just the one side is cock-eyed.
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Yeah each side has a grease fitting..the previous owner had this lift installed and cant remember what he had put on..so i havent had a chance to search for any numbers on the arms yet..they both look the same and have bends in them in the same spots..just the one side is cock-eyed.
hard to tell look like Johnny joints. But so many companies use them. Currie teraflex rk jks. Either way you'll have to drop the arms and look at bushing. If teraflex they are stupid simple to rebuild.
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Well im gonna start with just trying to re-align it later tonight and look at the bushing, and see if i cant identify the arms...if nothing else i'll just buy new arms and be done with it...u think this would have any effect on that rear right sagging?
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Well im gonna start with just trying to re-align it later tonight and look at the bushing, and see if i cant identify the arms...if nothing else i'll just buy new arms and be done with it...u think this would have any effect on that rear right sagging?
should not affect the rear sagging.

If the bushing/joint is ok just loosen the lock nut and straighten the joint and retighten. Those take about 200 ft/lbs so get a cheater lol.
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The joint looks welded. Not a Johnny joint.
Drop that end and put a screw driver through it. See if the joint is worn and sloppy. If it's tight .. Center in the mount and tighten the jam not.

Another thing you can try. With the jeep in park. Grab the tire and push/pull. You'll see the joint move up and down if it's worn.
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Heres a few more pics...drove 1mi from work today and the rear sag seems to have gone away...odd..but w/e..here is the lca again..

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The last pic is the driver side which seemed fine..see if this helps any
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A couple more thoughts:

The twist on the control arm might be induced by the lean.

Look at the back of end of the CAs for any remnants of a large lettering. Those might be Skyjacker CAs.
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Guys I cant seem to locate ANY numbers on any other arms or bars or springs..this is troubling lol
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Lol okay I will try that when I get better lighting..I think I may run it over to the shop who put it on 4 years ago and see if they have any insight
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Heres a few more pics...drove 1mi from work today and the rear sag seems to have gone away...odd..but w/e..here is the lca again.. The last pic is the driver side which seemed fine..see if this helps any
Wondering if those are Rough country arms?
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Wondering if those are Rough country arms?
Look a hell of a lot like'em...the shocks dont have anything on them either just plain jane silver
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Chances of a busted seal, or a bent piston on the shock? I had an old ZR2 that I would literally have to pick up to get the shock leveled once it compressed. I live in an area that doesn't see snow, but to me that whole underside looks like it's in a state of decay.
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Chances of a busted seal, or a bent piston on the shock? I had an old ZR2 that I would literally have to pick up to get the shock leveled once it compressed. I live in an area that doesn't see snow, but to me that whole underside looks like it's in a state of decay.
Yeah it's def snow induced under there..it was in a lift Monday and they said the left rear shock had some leakage..but my sagging was the right rear
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it was in a lift Monday and they said the left rear shock had some leakage..but my sagging was the right rear
I wonder if they could have bent the thing when they lifted it? When they use those old school lifts I can't even watch them lift my Jeep, sure it's going to fall off the damn thing one day
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Look a hell of a lot like'em...the shocks dont have anything on them either just plain jane silver
Springs silver too? That's Rough Country.
They use spray paint instead of powder coating so it might have flaked off by now.

Need a giant crescent wrench (2-3") to loosen the jam nut but you should be able to straighten those knuckles out and re-tighten them.
Might as well fill them up with grease and see if they feel loose at all while your under there.

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