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Old 09-25-2014, 09:36 PM
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max flex I can get?

Hey all, looking to buy my first lift kit, and had some questions/opinions needed, I've researched heavily, and know what all I will need if I do a big lift such as gussets and driveshafts and all. But my main question is, which company and how tall of a lift will I need to get the best flex? I have a rubicon so Ive already been in love with the disco. and I really want to be able to stuff my tires, my idea of a good set up would be a teraflex 3" with 35s" and flat fenders. Or would I be better off with a 4" kit? But then I have to buy driveshafts and all...so will a 3" suffice, and what about the shock length? Do I just buy shocks recommended for a 3" lift or buy shocks recommended for a 4" lift to gain a little more droop in my axle? I do love to go wheelin, plan on going to the hatfield mccoy trails soon, so it'll be some pretty decent rock crawling and such. Thanks to all!

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I see you have a jku. The 4 doors can be made into flexing machines a little easier than a 2 door and aren't nearly as picky. So you got that going for you. In my opinion , LCOG (low center of gravity) builds provide the greatest articulation. On a 2 door i would say rk's 1.5 but in your situation im gonna recommend the rk 2.5" either max travel or x factor. The x factor being the better and more expensive option because of the 8 control arms. Which on a 4 door arent "totally" necessary. Combine this with a nice set of long bilstein 5100's and youve got yourself a very nice setup. There comes a point when you do have to start addressing your driveline because of the amount of flex you can produce though. Example being driveshaft touching exahaust etc. Theres absolutely no reason to go up to 4" in my opinion. Ive seen 3.5" kits with 40's under them.

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Lol wow. A 2 door can flex just as much as a 4 door. I love the posers on wf lol its entertaining. Yes a 4 door is less picky but way too long on the wb unless ur going to 40's. And ull always have a bad dep angle cuz u dont wanna extend ur wb any more then what it is. Join a real 4x4 club and ask them any questions you have. Dont just take the advice from wf members
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My big thing was not doing 37s because I had to gusset the axle, and I figured that 35s would be the best option. Originally I did test drive a 2 door but I had found my 4dr rubicon for the same amount of money so that's what I got
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My big thing was not doing 37s because I had to gusset the axle, and I figured that 35s would be the best option. Originally I did test drive a 2 door but I had found my 4dr rubicon for the same amount of money so that's what I got
Armoring up the axle is not a bad idea even on a Rubicon for 35s. I plan to truss my Rubicon with Artec front (the armor kit that includes c gussets) and rear. Cheap insurance.
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Lol wow. A 2 door can flex just as much as a 4 door. I love the posers on wf lol its entertaining. Yes a 4 door is less picky but way too long on the wb unless ur going to 40's. And ull always have a bad dep angle cuz u dont wanna extend ur wb any more then what it is. Join a real 4x4 club and ask them any questions you have. Dont just take the advice from wf members
I think I can almost translate this to understandable English. I had a 4 door and traded in for a 2 door. Had nothing to do with which flexed more. All the flex in the world isnt going to help when you are sitting high centered on that big belly breaking up metal stuff as they winch your flexed self off the big rock.
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My next jeep will be a 2 door with the new 3.6 v6, rubicon tho, anyways back to the OP, what's the average lift everyone else runs, or for that matter, needs? 3in? I don't want to go overkill, but I also don't want to buy a lift again later on
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My next jeep will be a 2 door with the new 3.6 v6, rubicon tho, anyways back to the OP, what's the average lift everyone else runs, or for that matter, needs? 3in? I don't want to go overkill, but I also don't want to buy a lift again later on
What size tire do you want to run? Have you read the stickied post about lifts and tires yet? LOTS of good reading there.
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Yea, I've read through many and I want bf goodrich 35s km2, and most are running a 3" lift. most people in my jeep club only have 33s or so, and I did just as well with my stock rubicon
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I found that my limiting factor is the shock. I have read that the Bilstein 5160 will have approximately 2 inches of extra travel versus the 5100 due to the valving being in the remote reservoir instead of the shock itself. Flex is only great on the trail. If you intend on driving it too then you may want to adjust your desires.
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I found that my limiting factor is the shock. I have read that the Bilstein 5160 will have approximately 2 inches of extra travel versus the 5100 due to the valving being in the remote reservoir instead of the shock itself. Flex is only great on the trail. If you intend on driving it too then you may want to adjust your desires.
The 5160 has a shorter body which translates into more compression. Extended length = down travel.
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Ok ok ok, did anyone care to take notice that i have a 2 door? Im not saying you cant get a 2 door t flex as much, it just takes a lot more supporting mods and money. Lol and listen, although i dont wheel as much as most when i do its with some seriously set up rigs. Feel free to youtube hudson valley jeeps. And to take a look at my signature.
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Pretty much all mentioned above your shock length an amount of travel is your main factor. If your goin 33's or 35's stick to a 2.5" lift something like teraflex or rk.
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Excellent, thanks to all, I will probably post it up when I install my lift, whichever brand I go with, probably rockkrawler or teraflex, I'm leaning toward tera, have heard that rockkrawlers bushings don't flex very well.
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Excellent, thanks to all, I will probably post it up when I install my lift, whichever brand I go with, probably rockkrawler or teraflex, I'm leaning toward tera, have heard that rockkrawlers bushings don't flex very well.
If you do get the tera get get the one without shocks then pair it with different shocks it that way it will come with the axle side rear trac bar bracket as well
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I ran the old Man Emu LT shocks and 2" lift springs on my 07 2 door with Terraflex LCA's.
It flexed well without getting sketchy on the highway and looked stock.

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Excellent, thanks to all, I will probably post it up when I install my lift, whichever brand I go with, probably rockkrawler or teraflex, I'm leaning toward tera, have heard that rockkrawlers bushings don't flex very well.
Where did you hear this ?
Most aftermarket arms have a rubber bushing on one end to help with NVH. Both RK and TF use both a rubber and spherical joint.
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I had heard that from another thread on teraflex vs RK but just a rumour right? Lol rock krawler I also read is cheaper but just as good quality as tera
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I had heard that from another thread on teraflex vs RK but just a rumour right? Lol rock krawler I also read is cheaper but just as good quality as tera
Rk an teraflex both make good bushings on there arms much improved from what they even use to be. If you want sort of a softer ride with a bit of cushion the teraflex springs will give you that. They drive well an handle great offroad from personal experience. From what u have heard rk is a good spring but can ride a bit stiff. Pair it with ome shocks, metal cloak shocks, blisteins shocks, or rancho shocks an it should make for a great combo for on an offroad vehicle
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Teraflex 2.5 inch coil lift with rancho shocks....







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Rk an teraflex both make good bushings on there arms much improved from what they even use to be. If you want sort of a softer ride with a bit of cushion the teraflex springs will give you that. They drive well an handle great offroad from personal experience. From what u have heard rk is a good spring but can ride a bit stiff. Pair it with ome shocks, metal cloak shocks, blisteins shocks, or rancho shocks an it should make for a great combo for on an offroad vehicle
I agree with all but 1 thing. The new RK coils are not stiff at all. Matter of fact.. I believe the ride zone (soft section of coil) is slightly more than stock.
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BrianD, that looks sweet, btw what did you do to your turn signals? I been looking to make mine black also
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I agree with all but 1 thing. The new RK coils are not stiff at all. Matter of fact.. I believe the ride zone (soft section of coil) is slightly more than stock.
Agreed my RK 1.5 are barely stiffer than stock...if at all
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Agreed my RK 1.5 are barely stiffer than stock...if at all
Now if we are talking about the previous generation coils .... Different story. Especially ran on a 2 door.
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Agreed my RK 1.5 are barely stiffer than stock...if at all
I would say they are not as stiff as 18/60 spring combos.
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BrianD, that looks sweet, btw what did you do to your turn signals? I been looking to make mine black also
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