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Old 10-30-2017, 05:22 PM
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So, about a month or so ago, I posted that I had water leaking in on the dash of my brand new Rubicon Recon. A number of people were kind enough to suggest repositioning the tops and not tightening the bolts too much, which seemed to have done the trick and I've had no leaking on the dash since.

Well, this morning, after a night of pouring rain, I opened the door and water was puddled on the driver's side rubber floor mat. The rug underneath is SOAKED. I'M PISSED!! I haven't even had this car 4 months, and now this?!?!?! I know it's a Jeep and "Jeeps leak," but it's a huge problem for me especially after having spent a substantial amount of money on it and it was my dream Jeep.

All of that said, anyone else have this issue and have some kind of resolution? And, I don't need to hear it from the peanut gallery to just "wipe it up!!" Thanks!

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So, about a month or so ago, I posted that I had water leaking in on the dash of my brand new Rubicon Recon. A number of people were kind enough to suggest repositioning the tops and not tightening the bolts too much, which seemed to have done the trick and I've had no leaking on the dash since.

Well, this morning, after a night of pouring rain, I opened the door and water was puddled on the driver's side rubber floor mat. The rug underneath is SOAKED. I'M PISSED!! I haven't even had this car 4 months, and now this?!?!?! I know it's a Jeep and "Jeeps leak," but it's a huge problem for me especially after having spent a substantial amount of money on it and it was my dream Jeep.

All of that said, anyone else have this issue and have some kind of resolution? And, I don't need to hear it from the peanut gallery to just "wipe it up!!" Thanks!

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Ours is on the passenger side, dealer said its the door seal. They have one on order. We will see.
And yes all the jeeps in our sig line had leaks.
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All Jeeps don't leak.. (My 2016 never has). But many do.

The dealer should be able to fix it under warranty. But I know it's a pain to have to get down there, leaving it until they get around to working on it, and then picking it up again when its done.

Sometimes the fix can be easy. Go over to YouTube and search for "Jeep JK hard top leak". There are a bunch of videos showing how to find a leak and how to fix it.
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2015 JKU, been dry up until 2 weeks ago, when I had a couple of drops on the passenger front door armrest. Foam tape was damaged at the rear edge of the Freedom Panel. Got a replacement kit from Quadratec, all good now.
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For starters I would suggest that you report to the dealership anytime you see a drop of water. Get it on the record as being an issue. I parked my 13 under a carport for the better part of the warranty period and regret it now. I followed a number of fixes on line since I was out of warranty and all the dealership wanted to do was replace the seals which cost around 800.00. The one that ended up fixing my issue of water on the floorboards both driver and passenger side involved some of this which I picked up at Napa for about 10.00



It involved covering up a small section on the body where the door makes its seal. Hopefully the picture will be good enough since I donít have a picture of the before.



Initially I cut a piece that covered that little button looking rubber section but I have since removed it for running doorless this summer. When I reinstalled it I didnít cleaning it good enough so it didnít stay in place but so far it has stopped any leaks. The YouTube video I watched originally watched said the water tracked down this area because it wasnít smooth where the door seal makes contact with the button shaped area. It solved my issues through last winter and so far this winter with a couple of decent storms. One having over 3Ē of rain in 2 days.
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All Jeeps do NOT leak. I had a '15 Sahara that never leaked (except when I left the driver side window down). I have an '03 Rubicon soft top that leaked in the back several months after I got it. Then it developed a second and then a third one (all in the seams of the top). A new top took care of that.

My '17 Chief and the Rubi got a good test in September when Irma came through, but both were totally dry inside. Since the Chief does not leak, the Freedom Panels and top are staying on.

Most leaks in hard tops are in the area of either the Freedom panels, either not in the right position, too tight or not tight enough. Apparently (from other posts) they should be on tight enough to compress the seal but not so tight as to distort it. The other areas are the upper corners of the doors where the top meets the door pillars.

If you have removed the Freedom Panels, dig out the placard that came on the visor or the instructions in the manual. Carefully re-install the panels in exactly the order specified and do not tighten down the latches and screws until the panels are in the right position. It might help to also test with high pressure and high volume of water from a hose.

You might want to go ahead and leave one of the plugs out of the foot well area so the water can drain. A big leak will still soak the carpet, but at least you won't have 2" of water on the floor.
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I got a 18 JKU with Freedom top about a week and half ago and the floor on both the passenger doors is wet when it rains. Have an appointment on Monday with the dealer and their "water specialist", hopefully they can figure it out.
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Jeeps aren't supposed to leak, if they did, then Chrysler wouldn't have spend the money to make a book on how to fix the problem. If you haven't seen it, there is a sticky at the top of this forum, with a link to the book.
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My 2016 has always leaked passenger side when there is a moderate rain.. always opening the door to find a puddle. Since several of you are saying this may be covered Iím definitely going to contact the dealership now while under warranty.

Are they able to fix this the first time is most cases? Any difficulty convincing them itís an issue? Would love to hear back when some of you get yours repaired.


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The difficulty in all cases is identifying where it is leaking. Looking at the seals and gaps when it is sunny and dry outside is not all that productive. If you have a rain, immediately after it stops and look where the water is (other than the floor). If the top of the dash is wet, then most likely it is the Freedom Panels.

If the water is running down the left A pillar then it is the seal where the A pillar, door and top meet. If it is running down the B pillar then it is either that seal or the rear seal on a Freedom Panel.

From other posts, check the rear as well. Some have commented the tool tray with the jack in the rear has collected water. A few have had to purchase new jacks because their original was so rusted.

But again, the guide will help. While the dealership will attempt to replicate the leak it helps them if you can give them some guidance other than the floor mat was wet for water from a number of different sources can wet the mats or fill the foot well.

From comments in other threads it may take several trips.

For those new to Jeeps, the three surface seals in the top corners of the door frames are called muckets. Don't ask me why, for I have not a clue.
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My 2016 has always leaked passenger side when there is a moderate rain.. always opening the door to find a puddle. Since several of you are saying this may be covered Iím definitely going to contact the dealership now while under warranty.

Are they able to fix this the first time is most cases? Any difficulty convincing them itís an issue? Would love to hear back when some of you get yours repaired.


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Dealer called the parts were in, set up an appointment for this morning. Took about an hour to change the door seal and replace a broken drivers door lock switch.
No leaks after the seal was changed. The seal looks a bit thicker then the driver's side.
Time will tell. All was covered under warranty.
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Thank you all for your comments. Just got ?Max? (short for Maximus) back from the dealer and there was apparently an improper seat for the seal on the A pillar. Of course, it hasn?t rained since bringing it home. So, we?ll have to see what happens when it does. My fingers and toes are crossed!
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I think the new door seal are thicker. I know that on my Chief if I just push the door button without pulling on the handle, the front doors will pop open at least 5". My 2015 never did that (but never leaked either).
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My Pass side is leaking. Here I thought I was safe. Crap.


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My Pass side is leaking. Here I thought I was safe. Crap.
Mine is also leaking on the passenger side. Started the day after I brought it home from the dealership last week. This morning I saw water coming in from the bottom of the passenger (half) door.

Is it ok to drive with the passenger floor drain plug removed or will road grime splash back in? I don't have time right now to get to the dealer to have them look at the seals.
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Is it ok to drive with the passenger floor drain plug removed or will road grime splash back in? I don't have time right now to get to the dealer to have them look at the seals.
I run all summer with no carpet and all the drain plugs pulled rain or shine and have never noticed water coming up into the drain holes. Honestly, I have never really paid much attention to that but I'm sure I would've noticed if it were coming in. You should be fine.
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My 2018 unlimited leaked the week I brought it home on both passenger floors and drivers front floor also. Brought it in last Monday and they took a look and said it needed new door gaskets which they ordered. Have another appointment next Wednesday to have them installed, hopefully they fix it! The dealer I took it to has an outside sub that comes in and deals with the leaking Jeeps.

I also talked to Jeep Wave since the first dealer I called told me all Jeeps leak and it would be a waste of time bringing it in. Jeep Wave told me to call them once I brought it in to let them know so they can follow up with the dealer. Jeep Wave said it souldn't leak and they have a special engineering team that deals with this stuff.
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Mine is also leaking on the passenger side. Started the day after I brought it home from the dealership last week. This morning I saw water coming in from the bottom of the passenger (half) door.

Is it ok to drive with the passenger floor drain plug removed or will road grime splash back in? I don't have time right now to get to the dealer to have them look at the seals.
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So, I got home from work travel last night and it started raining. I was happy so I could see if the ?repair? at the dealership worked. This morning, there was no water on the floor. BUT, I was coming to a stop, and water came in on the dash AGAIN!!! I thought that issue was fixed. I?m SO FRUSTRATED with this truck!! But, more so with Jeep since you?d think after all of these years with the Freedom top and making JKs and JKUs they?d get it right!!! But, I guess they figure suckers keep buying them with all of these issues, why bother fixing them.
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My 08 passenger side door leaked. My 05 doesn't leak at all. Hope they fix your Jeep for good Justkia.
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So, I got home from work travel last night and it started raining. I was happy so I could see if the ?repair? at the dealership worked. This morning, there was no water on the floor. BUT, I was coming to a stop, and water came in on the dash AGAIN!!! I thought that issue was fixed. I?m SO FRUSTRATED with this truck!! But, more so with Jeep since you?d think after all of these years with the Freedom top and making JKs and JKUs they?d get it right!!! But, I guess they figure suckers keep buying them with all of these issues, why bother fixing them.
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My '17 has been 100% leak free so far. I'm sorry to hear that others aren't as lucky...
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For starters I would suggest that you report to the dealership anytime you see a drop of water. Get it on the record as being an issue. I parked my 13 under a carport for the better part of the warranty period and regret it now. I followed a number of fixes on line since I was out of warranty and all the dealership wanted to do was replace the seals which cost around 800.00. The one that ended up fixing my issue of water on the floorboards both driver and passenger side involved some of this which I picked up at Napa for about 10.00



It involved covering up a small section on the body where the door makes its seal. Hopefully the picture will be good enough since I donít have a picture of the before.



Initially I cut a piece that covered that little button looking rubber section but I have since removed it for running doorless this summer. When I reinstalled it I didnít cleaning it good enough so it didnít stay in place but so far it has stopped any leaks. The YouTube video I watched originally watched said the water tracked down this area because it wasnít smooth where the door seal makes contact with the button shaped area. It solved my issues through last winter and so far this winter with a couple of decent storms. One having over 3Ē of rain in 2 days.
I have an intermittent leak in that spot on the passenger side. I know that is where it is coming from because I could see the water trail stain moving from the outside of the seal to the inside right at that section. I cleaned the seal and the door and it stopped. I'm talking barely any dust, so apparently it doesn't take much for it to leak. I would think a softer door rubber would fix Jeeps problem of so many leaks.
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just like everyone else, both my top and passenger door have leaked. door was fixed, top not yet. i hate that once fixed, its only matter of time till it happens again, the seals on the doors are done so poorly its embarrassing. I've had mine since new, have never had top or freedom panels off, ever, and top has issues.
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My 2017 Unlimited leaked from day one. "Water specialist" checked and they replaced front door uppers and B pillar seals mid October. Still have the leak issue. Not as bad but still leaking. Local dealer was angry when I called Jeep to get assistance. They were the ones that said the guy had gotten the leak controlled "as good as he can". I felt it would be best to call Jeep if it still leaks. Did not realize the dealer would be so short tempered about it....

So far the only time it does not leak is when I put the cab cover I bought for it on when it rains. That is great if it is just sitting and you get it on before the rain starts. Sucks if you have to drive somewhere in the rain and then stand out in the rain to get soaked trying to put the cab cover on.

I guess they just don't get it when a customer is frustrated buying a new vehicle and have to be taking it into the service place every few weeks for the same issue. So far they have replace both front door uppers and the B post seal. Wonder what they will replace next? Also not my fault they guy they use as a leak specialist is not "corporate level" specialist....first Jeep I have ever had that leaked. Too bad I sent other customers there and they spent their money with that dealer.
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Next time it rains, sit in the Jeep and see where the water is coming in.

If the water is in the foot well, check the carpet by the B pillar - if it is dry, then it is coming in at the A pillar, most likely the mucket (that is the name of the three way seal) where the top, door and A pillar all met. The drops on the door sill most likely happened when you opened the door.
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My 2017 Unlimited leaked from day one. "Water specialist" checked and they replaced front door uppers and B pillar seals mid October. Still have the leak issue. Not as bad but still leaking. Local dealer was angry when I called Jeep to get assistance. They were the ones that said the guy had gotten the leak controlled "as good as he can". I felt it would be best to call Jeep if it still leaks. Did not realize the dealer would be so short tempered about it....

So far the only time it does not leak is when I put the cab cover I bought for it on when it rains. That is great if it is just sitting and you get it on before the rain starts. Sucks if you have to drive somewhere in the rain and then stand out in the rain to get soaked trying to put the cab cover on.

I guess they just don't get it when a customer is frustrated buying a new vehicle and have to be taking it into the service place every few weeks for the same issue. So far they have replace both front door uppers and the B post seal. Wonder what they will replace next? Also not my fault they guy they use as a leak specialist is not "corporate level" specialist....first Jeep I have ever had that leaked. Too bad I sent other customers there and they spent their money with that dealer.
Wow! That looks like a ton of water! Would a simple solution be to just use a car cover when thereís rain in the forecast? Iím praying my Ď17 doesnít do this either!
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It's hard to believe some Jeeps leak while others don't. It's even harder to believe dealerships can't fix the problem. My Jeep is always garaged, but I've driven in some serious monsoon rains. Never had one drop inside. I've had my t tops off several times too.
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My 14 leaked like crazy, driver side carpet was always soaked. Based on all the research I did here it seemed like one of those things that no matter what I did it was never going to get fixed...

Ended up getting a 17 and the thing has been bone dry (knock on wood).

I'm convinced some will leak and never be right, others will be fine.

Pretty crazy and certainly hope you get the problem fixed!
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color me lucky as I have had 4 jk's since 2012 and none have leaked. My new 2018 Recon sat out in the rain all day and still bone dry inside luckily.

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