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Old 03-16-2015, 05:59 PM
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My Jeeps Lights are Aweful...

Anyone else having problems with their lights?I have never drove a car/truck/suv with these kinds of lighting display problems.
What I mean, is the lights display out front, but there is a spot to the left of the hood and the right of the hood where itís not lit-up.So, when Iím turning left, or right, I canít see anything in that direction?Iíve taken it back to the dealership, which theyíve adjusted the lights, but they still suck! What the heck? Is it just the jeep, or what?
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The headlamps are well know weakness on the JK. Not a big deal in the city but very noticeable on dark country roads. There are a lot options out but not many of the cheap are very good and it's a classic case of you get what you pay for.

Check out some of the numerous headlamp threads for a long list of options. Maybe some of the more modest alternatives will work for you.

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Old 03-16-2015, 08:06 PM   #3
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Go ahead and do yourself a favor and get some LED headlights. 100% better light output vs stock.

I went with truck lites and absolutely think they are one of the best upgrades everyone with a jk should do. The stock can be safety issue when you can't see anything..
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Welcome to the wonderful world of crappy Jeep lights. No amount of adjusting is going to make them better. Soon after I bought my 2013 Jeep, I went down a dark country road and I could barely see where I was going. I replaced the headlights 2 months after I bought my Jeep. Check out the Quadratec LED headlights, they get really good reviews.
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:15 PM   #5
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I went with Oracle LED. on the cheaper side of LED lighting and the highbeams are insane bright! The lowl hasnt got me flashed yet which surprises me. I adjusted them like a Halogen and its amazing to be able to see again. Love em. Can find them for 299-350

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I'm in the minority here, but I think the stockers are just fine. When driving at an appropriate (i.e. safe) rate of speed, they work just fine for me even out in the country. I am not a fan of headlights that are so bright they introduce the possibility of temporarily blinding other drivers. Unfortunately, lots of modern vehicles seem to have them.

If you think the Jeep's lights are sh!tty, you should see the ones on my '76 VW bus...
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I agree. The stock lights work just fine when aimed properly. Sounds like the dealer doesn't know how to aim headlights.
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Except for the fact that the stock lights have been tested with quality light meters and they performed poorly...
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There is a fairly cheap fix, the KC Hilites on amazon are around $120. A lot brighter and greater angle/spread for halogen bulbs. Also they are H4 bulbs. I'm selling some that work great if you are interested ✌️
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Except for the fact that the stock lights have been tested with quality light meters and they performed poorly...
Yup, listen to Pressurized, the stock lights suck.

I upgraded the same way Pressurized did and it's a world of difference, total credit to him and his research. Total outlay about $120 and much improvement. Follow the link below, go to my post #24 and enjoy.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/be...l#post16011370
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I'm in the minority here, but I think the stockers are just fine. When driving at an appropriate (i.e. safe) rate of speed, they work just fine for me even out in the country. I am not a fan of headlights that are so bright they introduce the possibility of temporarily blinding other drivers. Unfortunately, lots of modern vehicles seem to have them.
I agree. The stock lights on the Jeep are brighter than the ones on my truck. If you can't see at night maybe it's not your headlights but your eyes that are the issue.

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I drive safely, usually at the speed limit. I don't think that driving habits will help the fact that the stock lights suck on the Jeep. They might not suck compared to what came on a CJ5, but this is 2015 and there is better technology available now than 35 years ago. I picked up a set of used trucklites for $250 and couldn't be happier. They throw some artifacts that sort of look like a bright spot "YY" in the light pattern. Some people complain about it, it doesn't bother me.
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Stock lights are awful. You really notice it going from a JK to another car with LEDs or HIDs. Pick up a set of LEDs. I went with JW's. One of the best purchases I made.
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I put in a set of KC led lights. What a great difference. Not cheap though, but well worth the money.
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I've had to play around with Jeep lighting... it sucks. I have HIDs and ran 8K. I even have HIDs in my fogs. I love the visibility. It's incredible ! My friends all use various LED set ups and mine are way brighter and have a much wider span than the LEDs do. Anyone whose been in my Jeep always makes a comment about how much brighter than LEDs my HIDs are.
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I've had to play around with Jeep lighting... it sucks. I have HIDs and ran 8K. I even have HIDs in my fogs. I love the visibility. It's incredible ! My friends all use various LED set ups and mine are way brighter and have a much wider span than the LEDs do. Anyone whose been in my Jeep always makes a comment about how much brighter than LEDs my HIDs are.
Did you install projectors?
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Did you install projectors?
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Yes.
Awesome I can't stand when people put hid bulbs in reflector housings. I love my projectors.
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I put in sylvania silverstar ultra's...got them on amazon for about 30 dollars compared to 50 at the stores. Much better then what was in there. thats a cheap fix for the meantime until I can afford LED's. Also...FYI... its A zillion times easier to remove the grill to change the bulbs as opposed to going in from the engine compartment.
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I'm in the minority here, but I think the stockers are just fine. When driving at an appropriate (i.e. safe) rate of speed, they work just fine for me even out in the country. I am not a fan of headlights that are so bright they introduce the possibility of temporarily blinding other drivers. Unfortunately, lots of modern vehicles seem to have them.

If you think the Jeep's lights are sh!tty, you should see the ones on my '76 VW bus...
I almost tagged a deer at 70 because I couldn't see him. Swerved around and missed by probably 2 feet...he didn't move, fortunately.

OE lights are awful, and even worse than my 66 Chevy.
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I almost tagged a deer at 70...
I guess part of the reason I think the stock lights are fine is because I drive fairly slow. (Example: My work commute is ~30 miles one way on an interstate stretch where the speed limit is 65. I generally set the cruise at 58-60. On a nice open country road, I'm usually around 50-55 max during the day, slower at night.)
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Actually, if you're going to go with a halogen H4 bulb in an E-code housing/reflector, the Cibie reflectors are better than the Hella. You can use the same bulbs and H13-to-H4 adapters either way.
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Sorry for the delay getting back to my thread! I see some people are
mentioning they no problems as they drive and consistent speed.I’m not driving in an unsafe way, I will literally be somewhere where it’s not lit up, and I’m either turning out of a driveway left or right, and I can’t see anything in the direction I’m turning. That in my opinion isn’t right!I’ve taken the jeep to the dealer twice now, where they’ve adjusted the lights, but they still have blind spots.I’ve never driven in a vehicle with such horribly unsafe lighting!
Funny how everyone is enlightening me about the world of sucky jeep lights, but when I was doing Google searches I wasn’t finding anything! LOL
I guess my next venture will be lights.So, off to do some research about lights, and thanks to all with advice, ideas in information!!!!!
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Upgrading your headlights should be one of your first mods. The stock headlights are by far the worst I've ever seen. I went with TL and am very happy. I also installed LED fogs so that helps even more. Safety first!
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The same crappy light that are on my 2004 Ram truck. They learned nothing from the MB merger. Candle light at best. I went Radio Speaker and I am very happy. Plus 80" of light off road never hurts.
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OK, nobody seems to be addressing the OP's concern. It's something I've noticed also, and that is there's no lighting to the left, or right, while turning. I happen to think it's because the headlights on a JK are sunk into the grill quite a ways and also the fenders and bumpers block sideways illumination as well. I've seen some JK's with A-pillar mounted lights that are pointed left and right to deal with the darkness on each flank. I doubt any headlight upgrade can overcome being sunk deep into the grill and illuminate to the sides as well as the OP would want.
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They can, there are plenty of pictures that show the illumination of aftermarket lights. The factory reflectors are just absolutely terrible.
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I also don't think the stock lights are that bad. When I bought my Jeep the previous owner had EBay HID's in the stock housing. They worked okay but the high beams stopped working about a week ago; so I yanked everything out and plugged in some standard 55/60 9008 bulbs. The light is actually focused now and throws further down the street than the HID bulbs. LED is cool but I will never pay $400-$800 for headlights, that is outrageous!
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OK, nobody seems to be addressing the OP's concern. It's something I've noticed also, and that is there's no lighting to the left, or right, while turning. I happen to think it's because the headlights on a JK are sunk into the grill quite a ways and also the fenders and bumpers block sideways illumination as well. I've seen some JK's with A-pillar mounted lights that are pointed left and right to deal with the darkness on each flank. I doubt any headlight upgrade can overcome being sunk deep into the grill and illuminate to the sides as well as the OP would want.
Drive a Jeep with upgraded lights. You'll be amazed at what you can see with a nice beam pattern.

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