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Old 09-26-2018, 09:03 AM
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Lol!

Two sounds going on with my Jeep that I will see how good I am at diagnosing based on what little I know and I think they are related. I will be taking it to a shop for confirmation and repair and will see if I am right, wrong or totally off base and will post back.

Both seemed to start after I had drivers front tire repaired (darn nail) and seem to be coming from that front driver's area - coincidence maybe or maybe not but just tossing it out there.
1) Clicking noise, very faint, drivers front tire area. Not loud. Not speed related - just gets drowned out I suspect by engine and muffler noise at higher speeds. No difference whether straight on flat ground or turning on a bump where suspension flexes. No change whether in drive, neutral and reverse. Fairly consistent click....click...click.
2) Very very slight vibration in steering wheel. Fairly consistent regardless of speed.

My votes for prime possibilities - it's something tire / rotational, one or more of:
- driver front wheel hub
- TPMS flopping (is still working and reading)
- tie rod end starting to go
- brake dust shield bent (but doesn't seem really "tinny" enough to be the dust shield unless it's catching something at the edge)
- tire out of balance
- ball joints need rebuilt (I would think there would be more of a shimmy or shake or wobble if it were ball joint bad enough to click tho)

I think I am going to go with tire not rebalanced after repair (very slight vibration) and wheel hub or tie rod end. Will see what the experts say.

What I think I ruled out:
- RCV. These tend to click if the bearings wear. Noise occurs both when turning and going straight and is not any more or less obvious in 4wd (where RCV would be under more load in 4wd so conceptually I think should be more obvious, and would be louder either turn or straight depending which way bearings had grooved).
- Swaybar link. I know mine is a bit floppy, but I would expect noise to change when suspension flexes.
- Front driveshaft . At least it better not be - it is brand new with less than 400 miles on it. It also definitely seems tire area rather than drivetrain.
- Suspension bushings. Just doesn't seem to vary with suspension, more with tire movement.
- My exhaust rattles (crappy install has never been right since the day it was put in by a now ex-friend) but it isn't a rattle or tinny vibrate or clunk kind of sound like I get from the exhaust.
- wheel sensor flopping. I would expect the noise to be more a "thunk/clunk" than a click.

Any other votes? Or something I am not considering?

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My unit bearings (or hub) make more of a grinding sound when they go out (on my 3rd set now) but I suppose they could make another noise..??..??

Is your new front driveshaft the kind with a zirk on the joint, greased enough?

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My unit bearings (or hub) make more of a grinding sound when they go out (on my 3rd set now) but I suppose they could make another noise..??..??

Is your new front driveshaft the kind with a zirk on the joint, greased enough?
Hmm so maybe not the hub. Driveshaft is brand new fully greased - only like 400 miles on it.
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Hmm so maybe not the hub. Driveshaft is brand new fully greased - only like 400 miles on it.
Is turning the radio up an option??
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Sure u dont have a pebble stuck in a tread?

Exhaust, cracked manifold/gasket leaks can cause a ticking too.
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tpms's generally will not come loose inside the tire but an easy check is pull the valve core and try and pass a small wire or tooth pick down. if it passes thru the stem then the sensor is not in place. Just the front up and give the tires a good spin. might check your drive shaft. could be a tire out of balance or just need the torq of the lug nuts checked.
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Sure u dont have a pebble stuck in a tread?

Exhaust, cracked manifold/gasket leaks can cause a ticking too.
Pebble in the tread was my guess also. If it flies out and cures the problem you may just never know and will lie awake at night trying to figure it out. Better check it out.
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Is turning the radio up an option??
Lol. That's what cures the exhaust noise.

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Sure u dont have a pebble stuck in a tread?

Exhaust, cracked manifold/gasket leaks can cause a ticking too.
I will inspect tires more closely. I already know my exhaust mount is bad. If it were the engine related stuff, wouldn't it happen in park too aka so long as engine was running? I still have factory drivetrain at least just in case.

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tpms's generally will not come loose inside the tire but an easy check is pull the valve core and try and pass a small wire or tooth pick down. if it passes thru the stem then the sensor is not in place. Just the front up and give the tires a good spin. might check your drive shaft. could be a tire out of balance or just need the torq of the lug nuts checked.
I will stop by DT tonite and have them check the out of balance/lug nuts. I drive right past them on my way home so not even worth attempting it on my own.

I hope it isn't driveshaft, it's basically brand new. Will try to rule out tire relateds first.

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Pebble in the tread was my guess also. If it flies out and cures the problem you may just never know and will lie awake at night trying to figure it out. Better check it out.
Lol. It's more of a metallic click but I guess anything is possible.
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Check that your lugnuts are tight, and that they did not cross thread one causing it not to fully seat.
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U joints going bad.
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Check that your lugnuts are tight, and that they did not cross thread one causing it not to fully seat.
Make sure that your lug nuts are tight..
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Make sure that your lug nuts are tight..
Thanks looks like a bad entry in my predictive text. (I blame transformers)
Also I did have this happen to me and it was the source. 2 nuts slightly off the seat and frozen in place due to the cross thread allowed for a slight vibration and some noise. Had to do unspeakable things to them in order to get the wheel removed.
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My Son-in-law had some work done on his Tundra, at the Toyota Dealership. He drove it home about 10 miles and then called me. It was makeing a rattling noise, with a vibration. Sure enough, the Dealer forgot to tighten one of the wheels. They weren't much more than finger tight. So I torqued it. My 280 lb. Son was pissed. I went with him back to the Dealer and had them pull the wheel, and make sure that the matting surface was OK. They also installed a new set of lug nuts.

Luckly, he didn't have to drive further, or it could have turned into a accident.
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And the verdict...in pictures lol. And...i was right on the money. Tire not balanced. Click = tire tape weights flopping.
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Bingo..it doesn't even look likes the shop cleaned the area where the weights would stick to.

I have never had stick on weights come off.
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Bingo..it doesn't even look likes the shop cleaned the area where the weights would stick to.

I have never had stick on weights come off.
You need a 200 mph car. Not only do we clean and stick the weights on we also cover them with 200 mph tape. It is not the speed per-say it is the heat of the brakes that cause them to come off.
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Well, that explains why the noise went away at higher speeds! The weight were finally stuck to the inside of the rim. just not in quite the right place...
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And the verdict...in pictures lol. And...i was right on the money. Tire not balanced. Click = tire tape weights flopping.
Great and an easy fix.
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You have ruled out any debris in tire treads?
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Seeing your Mall Crawler never goes off road you might consider smaller, lighter, less aggressive tires and taller gears to save wear on all those expensive parts. Has always worked for me. Just joking glad you solved it.

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