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Old 10-15-2018, 09:42 PM
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NEWBIE- NOT HAPPY WITH 2.5 Lift :doh:

Hey all. Newbie first post. Learning the ropes. Mall crawler for looks admittedly but desire to do beginner trails soon. I have read so many threads but I am looking for some advice/opinions....happy to be redirected to another post where this was answered.

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-2018 JKU 4 door
-2.5 lift- fox 2.0 shocks, fox steering stabilizer, clayton springs
-285 70R17 tires
-Pro comp 2069 rims

So I had 315's on the build but it was too much tire for us and I did not like the ride on the road or the huge step up. I went down to the 285's. better. Now the wheel wells have a huge gap and i dont like how high the step up height is still. Yes....i see i may have messed up.

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-Can i get rubicon springs and fix this? Make it a bit lower? Im trying to decrease the gap between the fender and the tire.
-Can i keep the 285 tires if i do this?

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you can easily drop down but you will need to change out your shocks as they will most likely be too long. look at some Teraflex or rock krawler 1.5 coils.
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Ok. Will look into this. Thank you for the feedback.
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I'd leave it, I think it looks great how it sits. But that's just me
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:29 AM   #6
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So you wanted a lift but you didn't want the Jeep to be taller? You wanted bigger tires but you didn't want the Jeep to be taller or even change ride and handling characteristics? Are you even sure you wanted a Jeep to begin with?
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I don't think it looks bad, but I'd suggest something completely different... Buy the Rancho 2" kit with RS9000XL shocks and replace both shocks and springs.

You can sell the shocks and springs you have rather easily.

Read this thread: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/r...s-2096081.html

It's long but has many pictures and lots of info. Built with 285's is what the vast majority of people are doing with this kit.

As jadmt said, your front shocks are too long to drop down and you already don't have them bump stopped properly.
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Last month I did the RK 1.5 springs, LCA's, track bar ,shocks, etc.... Running 255/85/16. Pretty sure I could run as big as a 285/75/17.

Anyway, Jeep rides better than when it was new and not so high you can't get into it.
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personally, i think the fender gap isnt bad, if just a bit high in the rear. you have plenty of travel in the rear to drop down an inch, but the front would not have enough up travel left.


what brand is the lift?
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For actual off road use you'll want the wheel well gap, articulation is what you want when going over an uneven surface.
Case in point

If there was no/little gap to begin with as he went up the ramp the tire would rub the inside of the fender and rip it off.


So if little to no gap is the look you want then don't expect to do much off road with it.
Thats a question only you can answer, do you want the look or the ability?
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Ok. Will look into this. Thank you for the feedback.
That looks a lot higher than 2.5
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he is using Clayton 2.5" coils which have 188 in/lb F and 265 in/lb R on a rig that has stock fenders and most likely no armor so yes it will sit higher than 2.5". Add some heavier aftermarket bumpers and not only will it lower it a bit it will ride nicer.

To OP place a 100lb on the front and rear bumper and see if you like the look and if so find a nice set of heavy bumbers and or some under armor ie gas tank skid etc
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i knew id get flamed a bit. its just higher than i thought and im a newbie. working with the wife aspect too. flame away. i appreciate the questions! yes.....there is some buyers remorse so im trying to make the most of it!
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thanks so far everyone. i am rethinking some of this. Yes more the look than the function but i want the option and im struggling. maybe i get some siderails with steps!
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Lift kits that replace the springs with taller springs are designed to give you the advertised amount of lift even if you have heavy bumpers/winches/etc.
Lifts with plastic spacer blocks are only as tall as the block is.
So a 2.5" spacer lift only gives you 2.5" of lift, but a 2.5" spring lift could give you 3+".
I run stock bumpers, so my Jeep got about 4" taller in the rear with 2.5" Metalcloak springs.

I'd recommend side steps. Side steps aren't great for off-road (you'll hit them on stuff on moderate-to-hard trails), but worry about that when you get there 🙂
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its not right (in my opinion) to try to make someone feel stupid or that they made a bad choice in getting a Jeep or a mod for their Jeep. Instead, why not focus on helping them solve the problem? I'm far from an expert on the different brands of lifts, but I would guess that isn't the real issue here. If I understand your original post correctly (which I may not) once you changed to the 285's, you felt the ride was better. So that leaves only 2 of your stated issues remaining...the wheel well gap and the height to step up into the Jeep. Of these 2 issues, it seems that you may be more concerned about the height issue. If that's the case, then you are already on the right path to compensating for that since you are considering side steps. There are many different styles to choose from, but you 1st have to decide the desired height of the step. Basically side steps come in 2 "classes" per se... those that are located at the pinch seem just below the door (like in your picture), and those that drop down several inches below the body. Given you already appear to have the Mopar side steps, I'm going to guess that you would probably be best served by a drop step style. You might also want to consider some style of grab handles to also aid in entry/exit. The combination of these 2 types of mods should all but eliminate any difficulty or discomfort with getting in and out of the Jeep. As to the tires not filling out the wells as much as you'd like, I personally think it looks really good as it is.



Anyway, that's my .02 for what it worth.
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I don't see any flaming here, really. Certainly not compared to some sites! (On one site I got threatened with a ban, because I mentioned I had used a component that wasn't from one of the site sponsors! Not advertising it, or promoting it over anything else. Just that it was what I had used. I don't bother with them any more.)


As to it being higher & more difficult than expected to get in/out:


1. Are you planning on aftermarket front/rear bars? They will bring it down a bit. Most lifts take that into consideration, so you get the designated lift, with a winch & bar installed.


2. Have you considered installing grab handles? They go a long way to compensating for the extra height & make it far easier to get in & out with the lift. Lots of brands & designs out there. Mine was a PITA to get in/out until I put them in, and that was a 2" lift. And they will be much cheaper than anything else, to see if you can live with what you already have, rather than pulling it all out & spending that money all over again.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:43 PM   #18
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I think it looks sick as Hell man. I would leave it as.
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If it helps, a change from 315 to 285 means nothing to height without the rest of the information, as in a 285/75r18 is actually taller than a 315/70r17.
And I agree with others, the pic in post 4 is a very good look. I wouldn't want any lower side steps than what you have on it as they will grab stuff off road, especially with the long wheel base.
Perhaps add some grab handles to the roll bar.
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Old 10-17-2018, 09:57 AM   #21
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Grab Bars do help a lot.
The power step options are even better, but pricey.
I am not a fan of fixed steps, but the way we use ours the fixed steps would be an issue.
We started with a spacer lift because it is a exact amount of lift. Now we are moving towards a spring based lift, but currently we are in between, running a shorter spring based lift with spacers to dial in the height.
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Yeah no hate here, been in the car/truck/bike scene a long time.
Some go for looks, some go for speed, sound, off road ability, you name it.
A totally stock Jeep may surprise you.
Many are when I show up with my Saraha top and doorless.
Like only a Rubicon can do that or something...



One of the best things about a Jeep is it can do it all, well maybe not speed...
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Do you have any plans to add anything heavy to it?
-Bumpers
-Winch
-Armor

If so it might drop down a bit. If you plan to do any of these I would wait to change anything until after and see what the height ends up at.
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Looks good, like you said a post or two above get some nice rails/steps for it and some type of grab bar for the interior. I use Surprise straps in mine, many colors to choose from.


Chances are it will settle a bit over time and you'll get used to the extra height.
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Like others said, it looks great, I wouldn't change it. Keep it as is for a few weeks. I remember when I lifted mine, the first couple of rides I felt like I was in a F350, not anymore.
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I think it looks fine. I'd leave it as is.
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Looks a like every other wrangler on here...leave it
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Hey all. Newbie first post. Learning the ropes. Mall crawler for looks admittedly but desire to do beginner trails soon. I have read so many threads but I am looking for some advice/opinions....happy to be redirected to another post where this was answered.

Details
-2018 JKU 4 door
-2.5 lift- fox 2.0 shocks, fox steering stabilizer, clayton springs
-285 70R17 tires
-Pro comp 2069 rims

So I had 315's on the build but it was too much tire for us and I did not like the ride on the road or the huge step up. I went down to the 285's. better. Now the wheel wells have a huge gap and i dont like how high the step up height is still. Yes....i see i may have messed up.

Question:
-Can i get rubicon springs and fix this? Make it a bit lower? Im trying to decrease the gap between the fender and the tire.
-Can i keep the 285 tires if i do this?

Thanks everyone.
Add steel bumpers front and back, and a winch. That will drop it an inch

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