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Old 01-06-2018, 04:09 PM
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Oil change warning?

By way of context, this is on a low mileage vehicle - I'm retired (no commute) and this is not my primary vehicle.

It has been six months and 1,500 miles since my last oil change. Is this a "needs-based" system or does the warning simply come on at a predetermined time? The manual seems to hint that it is based on the condition of the oil. Could my short trip driving style cause the oil (Mobil 1) to degrade more quickly?

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Wonder if the change oil indicator was reset at the last change?

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Wonder if the change oil indicator was reset at the last change?
Good question, I wonder if this is what my problem is as well.

I've just had the same warning light appear on my 2014 JKU Sahara. I had my last oil change maybe 5000km ago. I usually aim for every 8k, but I've gone 10k before without seeing that light appear. It also happens to be the coldest week of the year so far where I am in Ontario. Was curious to know if the cold may just be messing with the sensor.
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The engine computer keeps track of things like RPM, speed, temperature, engine load, run time between starts and stops etc.. From that they have a formula to estimate when the next change is due. They don't actually measure the oil directly so the type of oil you use makes no difference.

The (2016) manual recommends changing the oil when the alert tells you. They also say you shouldn't exceed 1 year or 10,000 miles if for some reason the alert doesn't go off.

Out of interest, I took my JK to the dealer for the first oil change at 5000 miles last summer.

They changed the oil, but didn't bother resetting the percentage meter. Instead, they put a sticker on the windshield saying my next oil change should be in another 3500 miles.. At their prices, not likely

It seems that most here on the forum do an oil change and a five tire rotation every 5000 miles....
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The engine computer keeps track of things like RPM, speed, temperature, engine load, run time between starts and stops etc.. From that they have a formula to estimate when the next change is due. They don't actually measure the oil directly so the type of oil you use makes no difference.

The (2016) manual recommends changing the oil when the alert tells you. They also say you shouldn't exceed 1 year or 10,000 miles if for some reason the alert doesn't go off.

Out of interest, I took my JK to the dealer for the first oil change at 5000 miles last summer.

They changed the oil, but didn't bother resetting the percentage meter. Instead, they put a sticker on the windshield saying my next oil change should be in another 3500 miles.. At their prices, not likely

It seems that most here on the forum do an oil change and a five tire rotation every 5000 miles....
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You should be able to cycle through your dashboard and see percentage of oil life remaining. If they didn’t reset after the last oil change, you can do so by turning the key to the on position without starting the vehicle. Depress the accelerator three times and then turn the key off. Turn the key back on, cycle through the dashboard and check oil life remaining. It should be 100%.


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By way of context, this is on a low mileage vehicle - I'm retired (no commute) and this is not my primary vehicle.

It has been six months and 1,500 miles since my last oil change. Is this a "needs-based" system or does the warning simply come on at a predetermined time? The manual seems to hint that it is based on the condition of the oil. Could my short trip driving style cause the oil (Mobil 1) to degrade more quickly?
It is my understanding that short trips and long times standing idle create the possibility that moisture is going to form in the oil by way of condensation. I think it is the moisture we are all trying to avoid.

You know when the oil was last changed and the driving habits you have had since the last change and environmental mix the Jeep has been operated in. Resetting the "Meter" seems senseless at this point except to learn how to complete the action for future use.

I be you could go several more months before the next oil change and then just start anew with the use of the meter if you want to use it as a reminder.

As long as the gets changed you're good but, you know that and Nice Jeep BTW!
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Thanks for all of the thoughtful replies. Based on your feedback, I realized exactly what's happened: The JK has 6,000 miles and has had the oil changed twice, but I've NEVER reset the alert (mainly because it has never shown up until now). Like most of you, I am overly aggressive about frequent oil changes.
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I change oil and filter @ 7500 miles and have been using Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil and filter.
When it comes due, I am going to go with the Mobil 1 Annual oil and filter.
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My oil change sensor went off a couple of weeks ago and I thought I'd take advantage of one of the free oil changes that I had coming and thought I'd never use. There were about 4000 miles on it since the last change and I usually change it between 3-4 k anyway. (I'm still at under 10k total on the Jeep) I thought maybe I didn't do the sequence right and actually didn't reset it, which would have put the accumulated miles up into the 6-7k range.

The dealer changed the oil and filter and rotated the tires as part of my Jeep Wave freebies. But he did say something very interesting that might be of help to some of you...

He said "The change oil light will come on much earlier during extreme cold"
This was during a time when we near 40 below zero with wind chill. So FYI...
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Moisture will condense in the crankcase every time you shut down the engine. When you start it up again and run it for a short amount of time, the oil may not get hot enough to boil off that moisture. That moisture over time is one of the causes for the motor oil to breakdown. The oil life monitor systems measure that and other inputs to determine the oil change interval.
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