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Old 09-18-2018, 11:20 AM
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Opinion's Sought: On-board Air

Hey All,

I am looking at adding on-board air to my 2012JKU. A few details that will help add some perspective to what I am looking for:

1. If I go to lockers, I will go to e-lockers, so not interested in driving air lockers.
2. I have 285/70/17 (roughly 33/34") tires and love the way they look, no immediate or near-term plan to go to 35's or above.
3. I won't be driving air-tools. I'm invested in battery and electric tools.

My interest is having easy access to air up my rig and some random inflatables at the lake occasionally.

I am open to mounting locations as well, not just under the hood.

Thanks!

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Old 09-18-2018, 11:25 AM   #2
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How much are you wanting to spend?


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Old 09-18-2018, 12:25 PM   #3
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Ok, I just want to toss this out there first. If you have no interest in air lockers, it does not need to be permanently mounted. A good portable compressor will handle all of your needs and actually be easier to work with when it comes time to air up vs snaking an airline around and then storing said airline. (unless you want to plumb in multiple permanent attachment points for a shorter air hose)

Now that I have said that. A great point to mount a compressor that is not under the hood is where the stock muffler is. To do this you must change up the exhaust system to one where the muffler would reside next to the transfer case. This will free up a nice chunk of space and there are brackets on the market that will mount a compressor there. Its location, and your choice of sliders, might make it really easy to plumb in some quick disconnect ports on the rear bumper and possibly up the inside of the sliders to a surface mount behind the fenders. Though I have never tried it, you might be able to run a line through the frame and put a port on the front bumper.

Another option is a winch + air compressor combo unit. (warn powerplant is one such unit)
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:39 PM
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That's a part of the question. Given the infrequency of use, I'd be more apt to not spend as much on this as something that protects my drive line.

I really don't know what to put as a reasonable amount to spend. I've seen the prices on ARB and of other similar. Perhaps it is more about what is "right sized" for my use.

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A portable is something I am considering as well, but it is hard to pick through the hype posts of people trashing this pump and praising this pump... it all seems very Ford v. Chevy.

If you have any suggestions for portables that would be a good fit, I'm all ears!

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Ok, I just want to toss this out there first. If you have no interest in air lockers, it does not need to be permanently mounted. A good portable compressor will handle all of your needs and actually be easier to work with when it comes time to air up vs snaking an airline around and then storing said airline. (unless you want to plumb in multiple permanent attachment points for a shorter air hose)

Now that I have said that. A great point to mount a compressor that is not under the hood is where the stock muffler is. To do this you must change up the exhaust system to one where the muffler would reside next to the transfer case. This will free up a nice chunk of space and there are brackets on the market that will mount a compressor there. Its location, and your choice of sliders, might make it really easy to plumb in some quick disconnect ports on the rear bumper and possibly up the inside of the sliders to a surface mount behind the fenders. Though I have never tried it, you might be able to run a line through the frame and put a port on the front bumper.

Another option is a winch + air compressor combo unit. (warn powerplant is one such unit)
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A portable is something I am considering as well, but it is hard to pick through the hype posts of people trashing this pump and praising this pump... it all seems very Ford v. Chevy.

If you have any suggestions for portables that would be a good fit, I'm all ears!
I have a Viair 400p: https://www.amazon.com/VIAIR-40043-4.../dp/B000X9AXR8

I've been running this for going on 5-6 years or so. The only complaint is that the bag is a little worse for wear and one of the zippers is going out.

I know several people who run the dual ARB portable compressor setup and are happy with it.

A few others I know run some of the cheaper Chinese compressors. They seem to get the job done without any problem.
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I'll make one revision to the original parameters, I MAY put air lockers in... I guess I shouldn't say I would never until I truly start to research them.
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I'll make one revision to the original parameters, I MAY put air lockers in... I guess I shouldn't say I would never until I truly start to research them.
The ARB portable is convertible to onboard mounting btw.

There are other options to air lockers. Like a cable locker, you can either rig it to with a lever or an electric mechanism and a switch.

It really depends on how hard core you want to wheel. There is one very capable setup that actually has no selectable lockers at all, and is actually better in some situations.
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I'll make one revision to the original parameters, I MAY put air lockers in... I guess I shouldn't say I would never until I truly start to research them.
If you may go with air lockers, get the ARB on board. Don't buy something else then down the road have to buy the ARB.

With that being said, I hemmed and hawed on this for a while. I ended up getting the Viair 400P too. If I end up putting a locker in the front, I'll either electric or mechanical. Everything I read and was told lead me to this. I just received it last week and have not had a chance to use it yet. But, it looks and feels like a very good compressor. I'll be using it this weekend on Drummond Island.
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I have the ARB twin mounted under the hood. I also have front and rear ARB air lockers. If I went with e lockers or cable lockers, I would have gone with a PowerTank setup. My system works really well and I love having on board air. My lockers have been 100% reliable from day one. If an issue comes up, I have a small spare air line parts kit to fix 99% of problems. Air lockers and e lockers are pretty much the same, both work well. I just went this way because it was killing two birds with one stone for me.
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I have the ARB twin mounted under the hood. I also have front and rear ARB air lockers. If I went with e lockers or cable lockers, I would have gone with a PowerTank setup. My system works really well and I love having on board air. My lockers have been 100% reliable from day one. If an issue comes up, I have a small spare air line parts kit to fix 99% of problems. Air lockers and e lockers are pretty much the same, both work well. I just went this way because it was killing two birds with one stone for me.
I had looked at ARBs myself. They make a good, reliable locker. But I chose E-Lockers instead, mostly because of the up-front install cost savings (i.e. not needing an on board air supply). I have my portable compressor because I have 3 Jeeps and I don't have to spend the money on getting 3 compressors for 3 on board air setups. I just grab the bag and toss it in the Jeep I'm running that day.

If I had only 1 Jeep, I would probably have gone with the ARB setup.
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I had looked at ARBs myself. They make a good, reliable locker. But I chose E-Lockers instead, mostly because of the up-front install cost savings (i.e. not needing an on board air supply). I have my portable compressor because I have 3 Jeeps and I don't have to spend the money on getting 3 compressors for 3 on board air setups. I just grab the bag and toss it in the Jeep I'm running that day.

If I had only 1 Jeep, I would probably have gone with the ARB setup.
Makes perfect sense for you. When I acquire another Jeep, and if its not a Rubicon, I will do this same setup again. There are so many options for us Jeep nuts, that is one of the reasons I love my Jeep, and your Jeep, and their Jeep, etc... They can all be different, but at the same time, very capable.
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Makes perfect sense for you. When I acquire another Jeep, and if its not a Rubicon, I will do this same setup again. There are so many options for us Jeep nuts, that is one of the reasons I love my Jeep, and your Jeep, and their Jeep, etc... They can all be different, but at the same time, very capable.
Yep. Lots of ways to do it yourself the way you want that works best for you.
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I'll make one revision to the original parameters, I MAY put air lockers in... I guess I shouldn't say I would never until I truly start to research them.
Air lockers are used by many and work well. As I live in MN I chose to go with elocker front and TT rear. I love my Viair 400p. For me it is perfect. I do have a couple friends that have had issue leaking airlockers or water in the lines. I use my Viair 400p for more than just my Jeep but it lives in the back of my Jeep.

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