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Old 12-10-2017, 12:01 PM
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Original headlights suck

I have a 2017 wrangler sport and the OEM headlights are absolutely awful. I want to upgrade them to led or anything better honestly. Do you guys have any recommendations on better headlights? I can't really find any solid thread stating that one headlight is for sure better then the rest... No particular budget in mind but id rather not spend 1000$ on headlights :P

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For time being ensure that they are aimed properly. OEM headlights are not that bad when aimed properly.


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I went with Peterson LEDs with the anti-flicker harness over 3 years ago, and no problems yet. Much better visibility at night.
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My 17 came with the factory LED lights. I HIGHLY recommend them. They are the best lights I have ever had on any of my new vehicles. Not sure how much it would cost you, but my lights will burn the pupil out of your eyes on high beam. Low beams are awesome. Even the LED fog lights on my jeep do a great job.
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My 17 came with the factory LED lights. I HIGHLY recommend them. They are the best lights I have ever had on any of my new vehicles. Not sure how much it would cost you, but my lights will burn the pupil out of your eyes on high beam. Low beams are awesome. Even the LED fog lights on my jeep do a great job.
I have the same lights on my '17 also but live in the snowbelt. I haven't been home in almost two months so I am waiting to see how the LED lights do in the freezing rain and snow. I have a feeling that frozen rain and snow won't melt off them like it will with old fashioned headlights.
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https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/9008...e-all-benefits

Being in the snow belt, here is the least expensive option. Not a whole lot better, but for the buck not bad and installation ease.
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There are plenty of threads, but you won't find universal agreement on 'the best'. The new Mopar lights are pretty good. You'll find some people selling take-offs for $300+ (that's how I got mine). For around $100 you can get a nice set of HID bulbs with ballasts. I bit of wiring to do, but I did that to my old Rubi and it was very good... beat lots of $1000 lights in a shootout.

There are new LED's coming out all the time... even the 2018 version is different than the 2017 version from what I can see (Jeep OEM). Trucklites, JW Speaker are among the popular makes here, but $$$.

The one thing with the Mopar LED's is they have very sharp cutoff's... even to the side. So I find for cornering they seem to have a 45 degree cutoff to the side, which took a bit to get used to... where the factory incandescent lights scatter a lot more (in all directions).

Anyway... everyone seems happy with the Mopar that has gone to them...
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I live in Montana so snow and ice are common almost year around . I have never had an issue with non heated trucklites (rigid) and first started using them in 2012. I now have OEM leds on my new jeep and like them and so far so good. I spend a light of time driving at night in deer country and stock non led's just don't cut in no matter how they are adjusted. Trucklites properly adjusted are very good. The OEM ones seem fine as well not quite as bright as Trucklites but might have a slightly better pattern overall.
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I have a 2017 wrangler sport and the OEM headlights are absolutely awful. I want to upgrade them to led or anything better honestly. Do you guys have any recommendations on better headlights? I can't really find any solid thread stating that one headlight is for sure better then the rest... No particular budget in mind but id rather not spend 1000$ on headlights :P
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I have the OEM LED drive and fog lights in my 2017 Jeep Sport. I recently installed a new drive cam and was testing it out recently. I took a short drive recently in a rural area where it is really dark at night to see how well the new drive cam does. The video below should give you an idea of how well the OEM Leds preform. I switch to high beams at about 1:08 in.
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+1 for the Pro Comps, $250 bucks or a little less and as good as the $500-$700 lights IMO. I'm happy as heck with mine which I just installed.
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I looked at the issue and decided to install a windshield mounted LED lights . For my country roads I needed to light up a wider area my concern as deer at night running across the road.

I know I break the law running on roads with them on but I live in a rural area and rarely encounter other traffic.
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Absolutely on the Pro Comps. I've had many of the aftermarket headlights in my Jeeps and have run instrumented testing on all of them and the Pro Comps perform awesome.
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I will say quite possibly the best mod i did to my JKU was the h4 bulb swap with cibie lenses and phillips bulbs. Actually like night and day - for the small amount of time and money i now never want for a better headlight.
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I just installed the KC Hilites and love them (see link below for pics). There is a recent thread about ice and snow buildup on LED headlights since they don't make much heat. So you might consider that too. I live in Atlanta so it normally isn't a problem, though we had a foot of snow this past weekend.

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I agree the stock headlights suck. I went with an alternative with my 2015 Sahara, but since it has been traded in, I no longer can create a video of it at night.

I do have my 2003 TJ Rubicon which has the same headlights I put in the JKU. They are Hella H4 e-code housings and replaced the bulb with Osram Nitebreaker bulbs. I have been extremely pleased with these headlights which replaced the original Wagner sealed beams which were even worse than the JK stock H13 lights. (They were also 11 years old which may have been one of the reasons).

I purchased the lights and bulbs from Amazon.
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I provided a link to the KC HiLiTES H13 to H4 conversion. I first bought a set of $10 special Chinese knockoffs which would not work. I then ordered the good set.

Here is a short video of the lights as recorded by my dashcam.
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First things first. Take your Jeep and park pointed at a wall 26 feet. How high are your headbeams. They should be about 3 feet.
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I just got a 2017 unlimited and the standard headlights seem fine, not really any different than any of my other vehicles. You should have the aiming checked out.
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I have a 2017 wrangler sport and the OEM headlights are absolutely awful. I want to upgrade them to led or anything better honestly. Do you guys have any recommendations on better headlights? I can't really find any solid thread stating that one headlight is for sure better then the rest... No particular budget in mind but id rather not spend 1000$ on headlights :P
Welcome to the forum, and welcome to Jeep ownership. Since the day we picked it up 5 years ago, the headlights on my wife's 2012 JK were terrible. I finally did the Cibie H4 upgrade last month. Wow, what a difference! Her Jeep isn't lifted, I can't imagine those lights on my lifted 2017. Oncoming traffic would hate me. So I'm probably going to get the Mopar LEDs for my Jeep. Consensus seems to be those are the best of the LEDs.
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Welcome to the forum, and welcome to Jeep ownership. Since the day we picked it up 5 years ago, the headlights on my wife's 2012 JK were terrible. I finally did the Cibie H4 upgrade last month. Wow, what a difference! Her Jeep isn't lifted, I can't imagine those lights on my lifted 2017. Oncoming traffic would hate me. So I'm probably going to get the Mopar LEDs for my Jeep. Consensus seems to be those are the best of the LEDs.
The lift doesn't matter if the lights are aimed correctly.
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The stock headlights in my 2013 JKU were also horrible. I changed the stock headlights to Cibie reflectors with H4 bulbs and while they were an improvement, I still was not happy with the lights. It was the high beams in particular that I did not like. The Cibie high beams seem to be more of a focused spot beam. I replaced the Cibie reflectors with the Quadratec LED headlights and I am very happy now. The low beams are very bright and the high beams are a very bright beam that projects far and wide. I find the Quadratecs to be much much better than both the stock and Cibie lights.
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THESE are terrific and Allen's Off Road currently has them on a great special.

They come with a lifetime warranty which is why I chose them over other available options.

Add them to your cart to see the true price.

I put these in my 2017 Big Bear and am 100% satisfied.
Just pulled the trigger on these!
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+1 for the Pro Comps, $250 bucks or a little less and as good as the $500-$700 lights IMO. I'm happy as heck with mine which I just installed.
How long did the install take? Any tips so save me some blood, skin, and cussing?
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Mine came with the LEDs from the factory and I am very happy with them. I have had some good headlights in the past (BMW and Audi HIDs and LEDs) and these are right up there with the best.
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How long did the install take? Any tips so save me some blood, skin, and cussing?
Installing new headlights takes maybe 15 minutes. It is extremely easy. Take the front grill off to access the lights. If you have never done that, remove the plastic retainer pins along the top of the grill (under the hood) and then unplug the wire harness to the orange turn signal lights. You can reach right behind each turn signal light to unplug the harness. After that, just give the grill a tug at the bottom and it pops out. The headlights are just held in with 4 screws each. Remove the screws and pull the headlight out and unclip the wiring harness. Attach the wiring harness for the new headlight, hold the light in place and reinstall the retaining ring and screws and you are done. Then just reinstall the grill.
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To add to the instructions Freedom provided, you may encounter a situation where the headlight retaining ring is a tiny bit loose in some areas of the new ProComps.

What I did to resolve this on mine was cut a small patch of double-sided foam tape and place it on the "pads" where the headlight rests.

You'll see what I'm talking about when you put them in.

There are 3 pads on each headlight bucket.

Remember to aim them after installing because you are not going to believe how much brighter they are.
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To add to the instructions Freedom provided, you may encounter a situation where the headlight retaining ring is a tiny bit loose in some areas of the new ProComps.

What I did to resolve this on mine was cut a small patch of double-sided foam tape and place it on the "pads" where the headlight rests.

You'll see what I'm talking about when you put them in.

There are 3 pads on each headlight bucket.

Remember to aim them after installing because you are not going to believe how much brighter they are.
As in, they're going to bounce around if you don't add the foam? I realize these are very budget oriented lights, but I don't want my lights bouncing around causing them to flicker on the road.
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As in, they're going to bounce around if you don't add the foam? I realize these are very budget oriented lights, but I don't want my lights bouncing around causing them to flicker on the road.
I don't think it affects all of them, just some.

You may not need it at all so this is a "just in case" bit of info.

Mine definitely would have moved a little bit but they are now every bit as steady as the factory lights.

I've seen others sometimes mention a somewhat loose fit too.

The foam tape is maybe 1/16th of an inch thick and I used it because it would stay in place when I placed the headlight in the bucket and because I had a roll of it lying around.

I't $2-$3 at WallyWorld



The width of the roll is about perfect so you just snip a short piece and place it on each of the 3 the mounting pads in the headlight bucket.

Honestly you could probably do it on only 1 pad but I wanted the headlight to be even all the way around for easier aiming.

I expect this foam to last for many years but if it ever seems to be deteriorating I will replace it with the 3M automotive grade foam tape.
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Yeah, I'm thinking something waterproof. I just don't dig the idea of foam being exposed to the elements. I'm envisioning soggy foam that keeps oozing moisture.
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How long did the install take? Any tips so save me some blood, skin, and cussing?
As others have said, very easy and quick. Mine fit like a glove and only had to adjust the drivers side one up a little and I'm happy with where they are pointed so far.

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