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Old 02-09-2015, 01:25 PM
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Other tools needed, DIY Lift Newb!!!

So, In the efforts to learn more about my jeep, ins and outs. I decided instead of paying 350 bucks to get my lift kit installed, and learning nothing, I would spend the $350 on tools to do the job and grow my garage a bit in the process.

First things first. This is everything I ordered.

Rubicon Express 2.5" Budget Boost Coil Suspension System with Monotube Shocks for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec

Rubicon Express lift with Monotube shocks.

AEV Conversions NTH20410AD - AEV Geometry Correction Front Control Arm Brackets for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

AEV CA relocation brackets.


I have basic wrenches and ratchets and pry bar(s) however; I am going to buy some things like a jack and jack stands, however will an air impact be necessary (from those that have done it before)? Also with a 2.5" lift is the spring compressor worth renting from my local napa parts store?


A future thank you for any help!

SPEND MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Congrats on taking the DIY route, you will learn a lot about your suspension this way.

I would add a torque wrench to the list. For me, air tools are nice,but not the first tool of choice, even though I have and use them.

A good floor jack and jack stands should also be considered, along with safety glasses and gloves.

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Spring compressors are a waste of time.
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Spring compressors are a waste of time.
I just know from assisting someone (wrench party basically) one time that was installing a 4 inch lift on a truck. And it was impossible until we got it, wasnt sure if I would fight the same thing with a 2.5 inch.
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all you really need is:
wheel chocks
a good floor jack
a couple of jack stands, 20"+ if you can find them
10mm-22mm sockets and ratchet, 1/2" if you have them
a couple of ratchet extensions.
a socket swivel, some of those spots can get a little cramped, especially the control arm brackets at the top.
a good breaker bar, at least 18"+
10mm-22mm wrenches
a good torque wrench from 50-150 ft labs, clicker style if possible
a ratchet strap for when you remove the control arms, helps to realign the bolt holes
work gloves are almost a must, all kinds of sharp edges under there
locktite
lastly, another vehicle. your almost bound to have to run out and get something you forot....


again air tools are nice but i did mine with out using them even though i had them there. and those will run you more then your tool budget to get decent ones. a half way decent impact gun will cost that alone.

spring compressors sound like a good idea but their a pain in the ass to use and if one slips it could be all kinds of bad news. i would just drop your axle till the spring fits then raise it back up
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I wouldn't waste my time with a spring compressor either. I have a 30 gal air compressor, it's loud, it's slow, you have hose running everywhere, and I prefer to not use it unless I have to. My impact of choice is my 20 volt lithium Dewalt. If it can't get the job done, I'll bust out the classic ratchet or break over bar.

I'd invest in a good battery powered impact before I shelled out money on air tools. You can take battery powered with you on the trails.
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I have done several coil swaps and I personally like the ease of using coil compressors. They get a bad rap but if you use them properly they work. I am just a hack and they work for me. I put the compressors in place on the coils when the weight of the jeep is on them snug them up jack up the jeep by the axle and put it on jackstands and lower the axle and viola. I did it yester day putting rear coil wedges under my springs took about 30 minutes for both sides. Did not have to remove tires or swaybar links or shocks. I would challenge anyone to do it without compressors quicker.
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So these wont do?
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So these wont do?
those are specialty tool for power wheels jeeps, they might work but from what i've been told the bolts are different sizes....
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So these wont do?
Be careful not to strip out any bolts with those...
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I just did a Teraflex coil leveling lift and the Synergy bolt kit. I had an air impact gun, which helped, but on a stuck bolt it was my extra long (I think it is 20") breaker bar that did the trick.

2 floor jacks and a buddy makes the job much, much easier. A good trouble/work light is nice as well.
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Just shot coffee through my nose ... Thanks
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18,21,22 mm 13/16/, 7/8, long breaker bar
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So last night, I went out and purchased new 3 ton jack stands, a 1/2 inch torque wrench, new deep well sockets (I had standards not deep well) Metric and Standard, 1/2inch swivel ratchet, 18" 1/2inch Breaking bar. Wheel chocks....The hunt still continues for a decent jack. I wasn't impressed with the $60 jobs that home depot had, but wasn't fully ready to part with 180 for the nice one.
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My Favorite tools are
24" HF breaker bar
Set of gear wrenches including 20/21/22/24 quad wrench.
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HF 3 ton aluminum low profile Jack
HF 1/2 earthquake impact
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So last night, I went out and purchased new 3 ton jack stands, a 1/2 inch torque wrench, new deep well sockets (I had standards not deep well) Metric and Standard, 1/2inch swivel ratchet, 18" 1/2inch Breaking bar. Wheel chocks....The hunt still continues for a decent jack. I wasn't impressed with the $60 jobs that home depot had, but wasn't fully ready to part with 180 for the nice one.
I really would recommend 6 ton jackstands. I have used both and would never use 3 tons again.
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not a tool but it'll make your work so much easier. invest heavily in some PB blaster and start hitting your bolts a week prior to installing the lift.
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not a tool but it'll make your work so much easier. invest heavily in some PB blaster and start hitting your bolts a week prior to installing the lift.
Another purchase I already made, but yes didn't list it. Thanks for the input!
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I have 3 ton stands, 3 sets, but think I will get a pair a little stronger for future work. My floor jack is 2.5 ton and I would not go any smaller
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Definitely big heavy duty jack stands with a wide stable base. I use a 2.5 or 3 ton HF floor jack, can't remember which one for sure, about 100 and works fine. Like kjeeper said, gear wrenches are a must for any toolbox, saves time and makes life easier. If you can swing it also an impact, again huge time saver and great on the tighter rusty bolts. I spent some extra on my Ingersol Rand, but that thing is a beast.
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Your relocation brackets may require drilling. Mine did.

Forget coil compressors. Put jack stands on the frame and drop the whole axle down.

If you don't have air tools I would say electric is an awesome tool if you need to invest. Use them more than my air tools. Nice thing about air tools is having air for the tires.
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Floor jack (can get the same one at Cosco, just different name)
Arcan Quick Rise Professional Service Jack — 3 1/2-Ton, Model# XL35 | Floor Jacks| Northern Tool + Equipment

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Torin Double-Locking Ratchet Action Jack Stands — 6 Ton Capacity, Model# T46002A | Jack Stands| Northern Tool + Equipment

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Just finished my lift YESTERDAY. LoL. I thought i had everything i needed but did need to run out and borrow....

16mm, 18mm, 21mm wrenchs. I had the sockets but you need the wrenches too. My wrench set skips those sizes because fate has it in for me.

I have a 4 gal. air compressor so too small to run an impact wrench, but i did have a 18v Ryobi cordless drill, so i bought the 18v Ryobi cordless impact wrench. Doesn't do near the 200ft/lb torque as advertised, but it does do enough to make life easy. Had to use a torque bar for the big stuff anyway. So.....get 1/2 drive everything because the track bar needs to be torqued to 125ft/lb and thats a lot for a 3/8 drive to deliver.
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Mirroring kjeeper's favorite tools:

Precision Instruments split beam torque wrench (key feature is that it does not have to be dialed or twisted back to zero after each use).
Long Harbor Freight 1/2" drive breaker bar (it is the longest one they make)
Ingersoll-Rand 1/2" impact gun
Gear Wrench set (I actually got another set of Husky's (Home Depot) for 50% off)
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Just finished my lift YESTERDAY. LoL. I thought i had everything i needed but did need to run out and borrow....

16mm, 18mm, 21mm wrenchs. I had the sockets but you need the wrenches too. My wrench set skips those sizes because fate has it in for me.

I have a 4 gal. air compressor so too small to run an impact wrench, but i did have a 18v Ryobi cordless drill, so i bought the 18v Ryobi cordless impact wrench. Doesn't do near the 200ft/lb torque as advertised, but it does do enough to make life easy. Had to use a torque bar for the big stuff anyway. So.....get 1/2 drive everything because the track bar needs to be torqued to 125ft/lb and thats a lot for a 3/8 drive to deliver.
Yea I got everything in a 1/2" drive. Knowin things were going to have to be torqued down quite a bit. And I will do a double check to see what my set goes to, it might only be 19mm I might need to find a 21mm.

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Your relocation brackets may require drilling. Mine did.

Forget coil compressors. Put jack stands on the frame and drop the whole axle down.

If you don't have air tools I would say electric is an awesome tool if you need to invest. Use them more than my air tools. Nice thing about air tools is having air for the tires.
I thought the thing about those relocation brackets was you didn't have to drill out the pre-exiting hole, thus not requiring you to weld a washer in if you had to take back off.
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Yea I got everything in a 1/2" drive. Knowin things were going to have to be torqued down quite a bit. And I will do a double check to see what my set goes to, it might only be 19mm I might need to find a 21mm.



I thought the thing about those relocation brackets was you didn't have to drill out the pre-exiting hole, thus not requiring you to weld a washer in if you had to take back off.
I did not have to drill mine out on my 2014.
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Double check your socket set and open end wrenches both have 18mm.

Jeep loves that size on suspension bolts.
Tool makers often skip it. 17mm jumps to 19mm and your stuck.

No idea why.

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