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Old 10-12-2015, 04:49 PM
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P rating vs LT

I'm sure this has come up before but I have to ask again. I wanted To go from a 265/75/17 Hankook ATM to the next size bigger and was told that would be an LT rating. I am very very pleased with the ride and life of the Hankook and wanted the next set to be as good or better. They still
Ride good but are about a 32nd off from the wear indicators. And that is with 58k miles on them.

The next size up is a LT rating. That means more cost and a rougher ride.

What is a good P rated tire that is a little bigger than I have.

Just wanted to know other options if available.

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You could look at the Nitto Terra Grappler G2's in P285/70/17. I'm looking at those when my LT265/70/17 C rated Duratracs are used up unless by some miracle I have my axle reinforced etc. and ready to go for 35's at the time (and the wheels to put them on).

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I'm sure this has come up before but I have to ask again. I wanted To go from a 265/75/17 Hankook ATM to the next size bigger and was told that would be an LT rating. I am very very pleased with the ride and life of the Hankook and wanted the next set to be as good or better. They still Ride good but are about a 32nd off from the wear indicators. And that is with 58k miles on them. The next size up is a LT rating. That means more cost and a rougher ride. What is a good P rated tire that is a little bigger than I have. Just wanted to know other options if available.
put the Nitto P285/70/17 on mine. I feel like the handling and ride are greatly improved. Worth checking out.
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Cooper AT3 and Toyo A/Ts in P285/70/17 are a couple others that come up allot as well. Can't go wrong with any mentioned so far. I have had both. Although the Cooper's I had on my truck, 3 sets, E rated. Couldn't pass up the deal on my current Toyo's P285 on my Jeep. So far no complaints.
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Thanks for the info. This us exactly what I was looking for.

Any one have tread life experiences to add to this? I mostly use it as a DD with occasional off road runs when time permits.
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Thanks for the info. This us exactly what I was looking for.

Any one have tread life experiences to add to this? I mostly use it as a DD with occasional off road runs when time permits.
I don't have any hard info since I'm not running them yet, but Discount Tire Direct claims a 65K tread life estimate on the P series version of the Nitto TG G2's.
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LT's come in different load ranges. If you get a "C" rated LT it won't cost that much more, nor be really any tougher. Most "D" rated LT's are actually rated about the same as a comparable size "P" series tire made for light trucks. When you get into the "E" series LT's you are buying a tire meant for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. They are really expensive and harsh riding.
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LT's come in different load ranges. If you get a "C" rated LT it won't cost that much more, nor be really any tougher. Most "D" rated LT's are actually rated about the same as a comparable size "P" series tire made for light trucks. When you get into the "E" series LT's you are buying a tire meant for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. They are really expensive and harsh riding.
I just picked up the Nitto G2 LT 275/70/17 at discount tire. They will be installed in a couple of hours.
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I just picked up the Nitto G2 LT 275/70/17 at discount tire. They will be installed in a couple of hours.
Typo I meant 285/70/17
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That's cool. Do you have a lift? Send pics if possible.
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That's cool. Do you have a lift? Send pics if possible.
No lift yet still trying to decide which lift to get. Going to trim my Rubi rails and I think I heard it rubbing at full turn but when I looked couldn't see where it was rubbing.

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No lift yet still trying to decide which lift to get. Going to trim my Rubi rails and I think I heard it rubbing at full turn but when I looked couldn't see where it was rubbing.
It's probably rubbing on your sway bar, or the air damn if you still have it on.
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It's probably rubbing on your sway bar, or the air damn if you still have it on.
yep put in the drive way and turned all the way got out to look and it's barely hitting the sway bar.
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I've only had these a day but it's like driving a brand new jeep. I like the Nitto G2's much better than the original Rubicon tires. It's like driving a Cadillac
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@flyinion .... what are you smoking? LOL

35"s are fine on your axles.
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P Metric is a passenger car tire. It usually comes with better warranties and includes a mileage warranty. Most every passenger vehicle, Wranglers included come stock with P Metric tires.

LT, light truck tires rarely have mileage warranties and the waranties they have include a bunch of disclaimers.

Also most 16" & 17" LTs are 8 or 10 ply tires for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. Most 15" LTs are C Rated for 1/2 ton pickups and lighter vehicles. C Range and P Metric will ride better than D or E Rated tires on a Wrangler. Also P Metric and C Rated tires are lighter and usually much less expensive than D or E Rated tires.
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No lift yet still trying to decide which lift to get. Going to trim my Rubi rails and I think I heard it rubbing at full turn but when I looked couldn't see where it was rubbing.

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Do you have any closer up pictures as well as more angles? I am more then likely going to be purchasing these this afternoon, just need some reinforcement.
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@flyinion .... what are you smoking? LOL

35"s are fine on your axles.
Considering there are reports of the axle C's bending with good pothole hits with stock 32's, I'm not smoking much.
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Do you have any closer up pictures as well as more angles? I am more then likely going to be purchasing these this afternoon, just need some reinforcement.
my phone app will only let me do 1 photo at a time here is front wheel.

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Do you have any closer up pictures as well as more angles? I am more then likely going to be purchasing these this afternoon, just need some reinforcement.
I wanted to get a picture of the Rubi Rail as I need to trim it back about 2 inches.

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Update

Went back with the tried and true performers. The Hankook were hard to replace for the life I got out of them. And Discount has rebates going on now. With gas prices that makes for a free tank of gas and lunch.
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If you look at where the control arm connects to the frame, I would be surprise if that tire could get any closer to that rail. Not to mention, once it is cut, it will rust.


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The Toyo ATII in P285/70-17 is an awesome tire for a mildly used Jeep. The Toyo's are notoriously durable anyway, but you don't give up a decent ride quality and offroad performance is still quite good.

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