Pentastar rocker arm issue - Jeep Cares? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Like Tree20Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 04-16-2019, 05:25 PM
Thread Starter
  #1
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 14
Pentastar rocker arm issue - Jeep Cares?

I have a 2013 JKU Rubicon. 81K miles on it now, bought it new and have serviced at about 5K oil and filter entire life. Has never had the "change oil" message come on, due to me changing it early... Used good full syn 5W-20 oil as it calls for, and good filters always.

This is my daily driver. 50 miles each way to work, mostly highway. Never wheeled hard - not abused, not used to tow or plow, etc. Stock size wheels and tires, no lift or engine mods. All stock except headlights... yea, boring, but I like it! I saved my lunch money to get this - what I wanted... it is my 3rd jeep over the years.

I am taking it to the shop tomorrow for a loud ticking from the engine, and also to get a couple of recalls fixed. Engine noise is my main worry... Loud ticking and louder when warm, so no exhaust leak. Sounds like its coming from rear passenger side of the engine. I am pretty sure it is the failed rocker arm issue that so many Chrysler Pentastar V6's have had... all over the web. I know that Chrysler issued a STAR report on this a while back. STAR Case bulletin, S1309000016.

Does Chrysler have any plans to help people with this repair?
Does Chrysler have better parts in place to fix this with?
I am worried that they will replace with same parts ( at a huge cost), and it will just fail again. In addition, that is just more metal shavings going in the motor.
Do I just need to get rid of my Jeep that I love, and write them off forever?

If Jeep has a rep on this site like some of the other sites have, I would like to speak with them...

thanks all,
Ken

Kegracing is offline   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 08:54 AM   #2
Jeeper
 
Nomadlife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 56
@JeepCares
Maybe they'll help you out

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

Nomadlife is online now   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 10:21 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
Blastek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,914
My guess is that they'll replace the cylinder head. Depends on your build date as to whether you get parts covered. You will need to actually get a diagnosis from the dealer before the rep can help you.
__________________
2012 Deep Cherry Red JKU Sport S - Tickastar, 6 speed, 3.73, Dual Tops
Blastek is offline   Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-17-2019, 11:07 AM
Thread Starter
  #4
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 14
Thanks for the help Nomadlife. I sent a PM.

Blastek, will see what they say. Left it at the dealer this morning. I have not ran the VIN and or head codes, but mine was a late year 2013... also, thought it was the driver side head that was the problem? First thing service manager said was it sounds like the cam/rocker issue... With 81K, no warranty, lot of noise, I am not feeling the Jeep Love right now...
There is a STAR report, that is about all I have to go on right now.

Will let everyone know how it goes.

Ken
Kegracing is offline   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 11:13 AM   #5
HOHOHO,MERRY CHRISTMAS

5-Year WF Supporting Member
WF Lifetime Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Old Dogger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The cold, snowy, windy North Pole.
Posts: 26,316
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kegracing View Post
Thanks for the help Nomadlife. I sent a PM.

Blastek, will see what they say. Left it at the dealer this morning. I have not ran the VIN and or head codes, but mine was a late year 2013... also, thought it was the driver side head that was the problem? First thing service manager said was it sounds like the cam/rocker issue... With 81K, no warranty, lot of noise, I am not feeling the Jeep Love right now...
There is a STAR report, that is about all I have to go on right now.

Will let everyone know how it goes.

Ken
Welcome to the Forum.
__________________
1974 CJ5, 2003 TJ, 2013 2 door Black Rubicon, auto, with 4.10 ratio.
Shaking at 40-70 MPH, Read this!!!

The Mighty Grizzly is not concerned,
with
the needs of the Hunter....


Click here and become a WF supporting Member
Old Dogger is online now   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 11:15 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
riverrat0341's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Talladega, Al
Posts: 84
Hopefully they will help. My problem is, I had the head replaced due the the NG valve seat issue under their extended warranty. Now the dealership made me pay for the exhaust and intake gaskets which I questioned because nothing "I did" caused those components to "go bad" and the only reason it was needed was due to the manufacturing defect (valve seat issue.) Anyway, to get to my point, my Jeep now has valve rattle under load (i.e. going up hill / higher rpms and especially around 3rd gear.) A call to the dealership was frustrating because they said "this is normal." Honestly, as mechanically sound as I feel I am, I plan to just tear the valve covers off myself and attempt to adjust or just replace what is needed to fix it. Chrysler is not exactly known for quality, but I knew that when I bought the Jeep.
riverrat0341 is offline   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 11:33 AM   #7
WF approved Offical Jeep Account.
 
JeepCares's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Mopar World Headquarters, Center Line, MI
Posts: 1,242
Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat0341 View Post
Hopefully they will help. My problem is, I had the head replaced due the the NG valve seat issue under their extended warranty. Now the dealership made me pay for the exhaust and intake gaskets which I questioned because nothing "I did" caused those components to "go bad" and the only reason it was needed was due to the manufacturing defect (valve seat issue.) Anyway, to get to my point, my Jeep now has valve rattle under load (i.e. going up hill / higher rpms and especially around 3rd gear.) A call to the dealership was frustrating because they said "this is normal." Honestly, as mechanically sound as I feel I am, I plan to just tear the valve covers off myself and attempt to adjust or just replace what is needed to fix it. Chrysler is not exactly known for quality, but I knew that when I bought the Jeep.
Hi riverrat0341,
We are sorry to hear about your experience. Has a case been opened on the customer care side to add additional assistance? If not, please send our team a private message and we would be happy to get this process started if you decide to return to your dealer!
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist
JeepCares is online now   Quote
Old 04-17-2019, 12:15 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
riverrat0341's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Talladega, Al
Posts: 84
Alex,

While I appreciate your efforts, I definitely WON'T be returning to THAT dealer. No I haven't opened one as I'm not sure I want ANY local mechanics to ever touch another one of my vehicles. I feel, as an engineer, I am more capable to fix it myself. Given the option, I'd of preferred to have them simply buy the head and let me install and adjust it but that's not how it works and I get it. I'll pay for whatever parts and fix it once rather than have it sitting at a dealer until...

But again, thank you for the effort. Hopefully someone less mechanically inclined will benefit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepCares View Post
Hi riverrat0341,
We are sorry to hear about your experience. Has a case been opened on the customer care side to add additional assistance? If not, please send our team a private message and we would be happy to get this process started if you decide to return to your dealer!
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist
riverrat0341 is offline   Quote
Old 04-18-2019, 06:51 PM
Thread Starter
  #9
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 14
Update on failed cam and rocker arms

UPDATE:
Just got off the phone with my Jeep dealer. Quote of $3832.14 to repair cam and valvetrain on both heads...
This is for a KNOWN issue that the Pentastar V6 is having in every Chrysler platform it is bolted into... STAR bulletin issued by Chrysler for the issue.
Robbery???

I have reached out to Alex at Chrysler Cares. Will see if he can assist. I am planning to take this as high as possible and make noise. This is NOT how a company needs to treat customers.

Will update when I can.

Ken
mbgt72 and Buckfan74 like this.
Kegracing is offline   Quote
Old 04-18-2019, 07:13 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 925
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kegracing View Post
Robbery???
Rather a taste or precursor of some infamous colorful new deal. Once fixed, you might consider using the correct lubricant that Pentastar was originally designed for in 2010.
Wrangleur is offline   Quote
Old 04-18-2019, 07:24 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kegracing View Post
UPDATE:
Just got off the phone with my Jeep dealer. Quote of $3832.14 to repair cam and valvetrain on both heads...
This is for a KNOWN issue that the Pentastar V6 is having in every Chrysler platform it is bolted into... STAR bulletin issued by Chrysler for the issue.
Robbery???

I have reached out to Alex at Chrysler Cares. Will see if he can assist. I am planning to take this as high as possible and make noise. This is NOT how a company needs to treat customers.
Hopefully you'll get some satisfaction, but if not...

What does 'repair cam and valvetrain' mean exactly? What is being replaced? I'm trying to figure out how they get to $3832.14? That's in the neighborhood of new engine territory so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to sink that much into repairing a high-miles engine.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 12:04 PM   #12
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Morgantown PA
Posts: 13
Same Issue for me. 2014 JK Sahara Manual, built October 2013, 62,400 miles. Bought used and used as commuter with mostly easy highway miles. Early oil changes and never off road. Ticking began 2 weeks ago and sounds like its located on passenger side rear of motor under valve cover. RPM dependent, same sound hot or cold, oil change doesnt affect the sound, no dash lights or codes yet and still runs well. Im guessing a rocker arm issue as well. Been doing our best to NOT drive it.

Powertrain warranty ran out in November 2018. Local Jeep dealer says they cant help and call FCA. Called Saturday and there will be a case opened I guess today. Taking it in to the local dealer Tuesday for diagnosis and to get a recall done. Not happy that a motor can have this kind of trouble so early


Quote:
Originally Posted by Kegracing View Post
I have a 2013 JKU Rubicon. 81K miles on it now, bought it new and have serviced at about 5K oil and filter entire life. Has never had the "change oil" message come on, due to me changing it early... Used good full syn 5W-20 oil as it calls for, and good filters always.

This is my daily driver. 50 miles each way to work, mostly highway. Never wheeled hard - not abused, not used to tow or plow, etc. Stock size wheels and tires, no lift or engine mods. All stock except headlights... yea, boring, but I like it! I saved my lunch money to get this - what I wanted... it is my 3rd jeep over the years.

I am taking it to the shop tomorrow for a loud ticking from the engine, and also to get a couple of recalls fixed. Engine noise is my main worry... Loud ticking and louder when warm, so no exhaust leak. Sounds like its coming from rear passenger side of the engine. I am pretty sure it is the failed rocker arm issue that so many Chrysler Pentastar V6's have had... all over the web. I know that Chrysler issued a STAR report on this a while back. STAR Case bulletin, S1309000016.

Does Chrysler have any plans to help people with this repair?
Does Chrysler have better parts in place to fix this with?
I am worried that they will replace with same parts ( at a huge cost), and it will just fail again. In addition, that is just more metal shavings going in the motor.
Do I just need to get rid of my Jeep that I love, and write them off forever?

If Jeep has a rep on this site like some of the other sites have, I would like to speak with them...

thanks all,
Ken
__________________
2014 Flame Red JK Sahara

2018 Billet Dodge T/A 392
FlameRed14JK is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 01:33 PM
Thread Starter
  #13
Newb
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 14
Flame Red,
I got a message from Chrysler with my case number. Waiting on a phone call to actually speak with them now. Meanwhile the Jeep sits in the shop.
They have a problem with this motor and they know it. Hope that Chrysler will step up and make this right. I cant believe there is not a formal recall yet.
I have had several different PM's on this site and others, with people in the same position. Not just Jeeps, minivans, 200's, everything this motor is in.

I will keep posting updates.
Kegracing is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 01:59 PM   #14
HOHOHO,MERRY CHRISTMAS

5-Year WF Supporting Member
WF Lifetime Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Old Dogger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The cold, snowy, windy North Pole.
Posts: 26,316
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameRed14JK View Post
Same Issue for me. 2014 JK Sahara Manual, built October 2013, 62,400 miles. Bought used and used as commuter with mostly easy highway miles. Early oil changes and never off road. Ticking began 2 weeks ago and sounds like its located on passenger side rear of motor under valve cover. RPM dependent, same sound hot or cold, oil change doesnt affect the sound, no dash lights or codes yet and still runs well. Im guessing a rocker arm issue as well. Been doing our best to NOT drive it.

Powertrain warranty ran out in November 2018. Local Jeep dealer says they cant help and call FCA. Called Saturday and there will be a case opened I guess today. Taking it in to the local dealer Tuesday for diagnosis and to get a recall done. Not happy that a motor can have this kind of trouble so early
Welcome to the Forum.
__________________
1974 CJ5, 2003 TJ, 2013 2 door Black Rubicon, auto, with 4.10 ratio.
Shaking at 40-70 MPH, Read this!!!

The Mighty Grizzly is not concerned,
with
the needs of the Hunter....


Click here and become a WF supporting Member
Old Dogger is online now   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 04:49 PM   #15
Jeeper
 
riverrat0341's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Talladega, Al
Posts: 84
Alex, maybe you can help Kegracing.... Seems to be a common response by the stealerships... I'd hate to have your job sir.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepCares View Post
Hi riverrat0341,
We are sorry to hear about your experience. Has a case been opened on the customer care side to add additional assistance? If not, please send our team a private message and we would be happy to get this process started if you decide to return to your dealer!
Alex
Jeep Social Care Specialist
riverrat0341 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 04:52 PM   #16
Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blastek View Post
My guess is that they'll replace the cylinder head. Depends on your build date as to whether you get parts covered. You will need to actually get a diagnosis from the dealer before the rep can help you.
Odds are if it is coming from the passenger side of the engine as the OP thinks he'll be SOL on this unless he has some kind of extended warranty. I seriously doubt aside from opening a case Jeep Cares can help. I hope I'm wrong.
__________________
1988 E-150 4.9L 5 Speed Stick
2008 Jeep Liberty Auto Trans
2016 JK Rubicon Hard Rock Auto Trans

God Bless Our Troops
demarpaint is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 06:08 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
Blastek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
Odds are if it is coming from the passenger side of the engine as the OP thinks he'll be SOL on this unless he has some kind of extended warranty. I seriously doubt aside from opening a case Jeep Cares can help. I hope I'm wrong.
I didn't expect him to be under warranty or the extended warranty with a late MY2013. I just assumed they would replace the head because it seems like a number of posts on here of late describe issues with both heads (up to 2017 if I recall) and they just slap new heads on.
__________________
2012 Deep Cherry Red JKU Sport S - Tickastar, 6 speed, 3.73, Dual Tops
Blastek is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 06:27 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
I think there are two separate issues that people tend to get mixed up. The first is the problem with the early-production (2012 to early 2013) 3.6 engines where the valves could overheat on the left (driver side) head, leading to valve and guide failure which among other things resulted in a ticking noise (and eventually loss of compression in the cylinder.) The fix in most cases was to replace the entire head. This problem was rectified later in production by changing to harder valve seat and valve guide material which largely solved that particular issue going forward. You can check the date code on your heads but it's almost certain a 2014 would have the updated heads.

The second issue has to do with valve follower wear or lifter collapse which has been known to occur on some engines. This results in a similar tick but luckily is a much easier repair (replacement of the affected follower/lifter.) There will never be a 'recall' on this issue but I believe there is a TSB. Not sure whether it is covered out of warranty or not.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 07:42 PM   #19
HOHOHO,MERRY CHRISTMAS

5-Year WF Supporting Member
WF Lifetime Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Old Dogger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The cold, snowy, windy North Pole.
Posts: 26,316
My Grand-sons 2016 JKUHR, with 39,000 miles on it was just diagnosed with miss fire, number 2 cylinder. So the Dealer just this week replaced his head under warranty. So this issue still continues.

We have had another WF Member this week with a 2017, same problem.
__________________
1974 CJ5, 2003 TJ, 2013 2 door Black Rubicon, auto, with 4.10 ratio.
Shaking at 40-70 MPH, Read this!!!

The Mighty Grizzly is not concerned,
with
the needs of the Hunter....


Click here and become a WF supporting Member
Old Dogger is online now   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:00 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Whatever it is you want it diagnosed properly because you sure don't want something as invasive as a head replacement done if all you really need to do is replace a collapsed lifter.
Wrangleur likes this.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:09 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,533
Quote:
Originally Posted by smiller1 View Post
Whatever it is you want it diagnosed properly because you sure don't want something as invasive as a head replacement done if all you really need to do is replace a collapsed lifter.
What's the definitive diagnostic test for either issue? Compression? Codes?

Mark

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
__________________
14 JKU Rubicon X - Weekend go-to-the-mountains toy
88 4Runner on 4D's - Trailer queen for serious wheeling
01 PSD Excursion - The slave that drags the queen
ScaldedDog is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:17 PM   #22
Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blastek View Post
I didn't expect him to be under warranty or the extended warranty with a late MY2013. I just assumed they would replace the head because it seems like a number of posts on here of late describe issues with both heads (up to 2017 if I recall) and they just slap new heads on.
Understood. IIRC there was a campaign giving an extended warranty on the left cylinder head for certain 2011-2013 Chrysler products equipped with the 3.6L engine. 10 years or 150,000 miles, which "might" apply here. Although the smart money is on they try to weasel out anyway. Now if the ticking is coming from the right side head the warranty wouldn't apply, and I think he'd be footing the bill.
__________________
1988 E-150 4.9L 5 Speed Stick
2008 Jeep Liberty Auto Trans
2016 JK Rubicon Hard Rock Auto Trans

God Bless Our Troops
demarpaint is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:18 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScaldedDog View Post
What's the definitive diagnostic test for either issue? Compression? Codes?
If the valve or valve guide is really failing you'll eventually lose compression and get a misfire code, but if all you have is ticking you're not at that point yet. A collapsed lifter or worn follower should be obvious by inspection so if I was doing the diagnosis I'd isolate the ticking cylinder and check these items. If a follower or lifter is clearly bad then bingo, I'd try replacing the affected parts and see if the problem is resolved. If all the parts are within spec then you may have a deeper issue.

Regarding the head problem, with a million or two Jeeps sold every year you will always have some failures of every kind, but largely the original problem has been solved (now rare instead of very common.) That doesn't mean that you don't need a new head, only that I would no longer jump to that conclusion without proper diagnosis.
demarpaint likes this.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:27 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,533
Quote:
Originally Posted by smiller1 View Post
If the valve or valve guide is really failing you'll eventually lose compression and get a misfire code, but if all you have is ticking you're not at that point yet. A collapsed lifter or worn follower should be obvious by inspection so if I was doing the diagnosis I'd isolate the ticking cylinder and check these items. If a follower or lifter is clearly bad then bingo, I'd try replacing the affected parts and see if the problem is resolved. If all the parts are within spec then you may have a deeper issue.

Regarding the head problem, with a million or two Jeeps sold every year you will always have some failures of every kind, but largely the original problem has been solved (now rare instead of very common.) That doesn't mean that you don't need a new head, only that I would no longer jump to that conclusion without proper diagnosis.
I'm not sure I agree with you about the head issue being largely resolved - my 14's was bad in 4000 miles, before I owned it - but your diagnostic procedure makes sense. Thanks.

I wonder if the guides are the source of the death rattle these things make at startup? I switched to 5w-30 and that seemed to shorten the duration a bit, but not eliminate it. Of the 5 other motors in our stable, from three different manufacturers, the 3.6 is the loudest at startup, by a lot.

Mark

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
__________________
14 JKU Rubicon X - Weekend go-to-the-mountains toy
88 4Runner on 4D's - Trailer queen for serious wheeling
01 PSD Excursion - The slave that drags the queen
ScaldedDog is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 08:34 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScaldedDog View Post
I wonder if the guides are the source of the death rattle these things make at startup?
Not sure what you mean, my 2014 (51k miles) makes no unusual noise at all at startup or any other time. Pretty quiet engine overall as far as I have experienced. I use 5W-20 FWIW.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 09:23 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,533
Yours doesn't make more noise, then quiet down after the first 2-3 seconds? It seems to be common with these, though that's just from reading. I've only had personal experience with my own.

Mark

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
__________________
14 JKU Rubicon X - Weekend go-to-the-mountains toy
88 4Runner on 4D's - Trailer queen for serious wheeling
01 PSD Excursion - The slave that drags the queen
ScaldedDog is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 09:48 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 219
Here is a sound I have in my right wheel well. Only after the engine is warmed up. No real ticking from above the engine. You only hear this next to the right front tire. Has done it since I bought my 2014 JKU at 26k and now has just over 47k on the clock. Per other members in a thread I started they say it sounds fairly normal. No codes. Not loving that sound but not too worried as of now.

SWTrailJKU is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 09:53 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScaldedDog View Post
Yours doesn't make more noise, then quiet down after the first 2-3 seconds? It seems to be common with these, though that's just from reading. I've only had personal experience with my own.
If you mean valvetrain noise, no, it really doesn't, or nothing that I can hear at least. I've read what you've read so I was curious enough to check and if I want to hear any valve noise at all I have to open the hood and remove the engine cover and then stick my ear over the engine, and then I can hear some slight general valvetrain clatter that is normal for these engines (the 3.2L Pentastar in my Cherokee, essentially the same engine with a smaller bore, sounds the same.) But without tearing things down any valvetrain noise is inaudible, even at startup. But like you I haven't listened carefully to others so I don't know what is truly normal I guess.
smiller1 is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 10:38 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 925
Quote:
Originally Posted by smiller1 View Post
Whatever it is you want it diagnosed properly because you sure don't want something as invasive as a head replacement done if all you really need to do is replace a collapsed lifter.
That is exactly the issue. It appears that most mechanics and dealerahips rather attribute the issue to a past cylinder head problem and gladly charge FCA for entire cylinder head replacements.

I also like to add, that in addition to all the misdiagnosis, poor quality repair, damage done during repair, fradulently billed never done repairs and other atrocities carried out by dealerships, the worse part is this type of "my mechanic said...", "the service advisor said..." HERESAY, that many helpless people are spreading on forums, which then later often becomes 'irrefutable' FORUM KNOWLEDGE.
Lost in the woods likes this.
Wrangleur is offline   Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 10:59 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West coast of Arizona
Posts: 306
Yes, a distinction should be made regarding a dealer replacing a head on a late-model JK and the head actually needing to be replaced. They unfortunately are not the same.
Yreka and Wrangleur like this.

smiller1 is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jeep dealer refuses appointment from Jeep Cares CFLJEEPER JK General Discussion Forum 122 12-03-2019 01:14 PM
Looking for info on Jeep Cares Jay2011JK JK General Discussion Forum 1 09-15-2018 11:35 PM
Who is Jeep Cares? GobiJk JK General Discussion Forum 16 05-18-2018 02:43 PM
If anyone cares... my Jeep build GordonSmith JK Build Forum 1 05-01-2016 09:40 AM
if anybody cares: nvr-enough YJ General Discussion Forum 8 07-16-2008 01:20 AM





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Gladiator, Mopar and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to FCA US LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with FCA US LLC.