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Old 11-17-2019, 12:27 PM
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replace radio with navigation one

Just bought a 2010 jeep wrangler and i can't use my phone hands free. Can i replace the radio with a factory one with navigation? Is it just plug and play?It's been awhile since i did any stereo work on cars.

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The high end navigation my gig radio has built in uconnect for phones but you need to wire in the microphone

Also has to be interior high speed can bus as same year low speed can bus wonít even turn on in your wrangler


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The radio you're after is the 730N RER. (It will have RER in small print on the bottom right corner of the bezel).

As Digger84 points out, you'll need a radio with a high speed bus and a microphone. (All wranglers have the high speed bus but not all FCA vehicles do). Along with a microphone, https://www.justforjeeps.com/ucmikit.html You'll need a GPS antenna. https://www.infotainment.com/product...hr-gps-antenna
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IMHO, if I were going to replace the radio in my Jeep (which I have), I would go aftermarket instead of opting for a factory takeout.

I first went from a 130 (base radio w/o touchscreen) to a 730N. It was OK, but eventually upgraded to an Alpine i209. The Alpine is an expensive unit, but there are countless more affordable options available. Most provide Bluetooth with hands-free calling abilities like you are looking for and come with an external mic.

The units in both the Jeeps in my family (the other is a Pioneer) also support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. So though neither unit has built-in Nav like the factory radios, I have access to Google maps, Waze, or whatever Nav app I want to use from my phone with voice prompts through the Jeep speakers and the map on my head unit screen. I never have to worry about the maps being out of date or paying for a map update. I am also able to enter/change destinations with the vehicle in motion, unlike the factory units.

Both units also have backup cams attached and I didnít have to worry about flashing the radio to make the cameras work.

If you really want a factory unit, then the 430N and an external u-connect module or the 730N is what youíre looking for, but once you add in the cost of a mic kit and GPS antenna, you will definitely be over the cost of a nice aftermarket unit with the same capabilities and more.


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As stated above oem NAV is pretty crappy, go aftermarket
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I just installed a Kenwood Excelon DMX906S with forward and reverse cameras and it is awesome! Wireless or wired Apple CarPlay or Android car whatever. Really woke my sound system up also. You can go to Crutchfield and put in your make, model, year and they will tell you everything you need to make it work. If you go with them, you can pay $25 for them to marry all the wiring for you and its Almost completely plug and play.
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Crutchfield is your friend.. Cost was much less than I was anticipating to replace the head unit in my wife's Expedition, and they were spot on with advice and recommendations. FWIW the Kenwood I used is still going strong, and improved the sound from stock.

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Other option is add an external factory uconnect module to the current radio be it RES or REQ or non nav mygig

I think both the RES and REQ are solid reliable easy to operate control radios

The uconnect module is an easy add especially if you have an res or req with the uconnect buttons but you do need a dealer starscan TIPM update for module to work
The modules also have a usb external port

The local you pull it charges about $20 for a uconnect module


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If your current radio does not have nav, you'll also need a new antenna for the GPS.
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How for the dealer to make the uconnect module to work?
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how much for the dealer to make the uconnect module work?
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Too much because when you try to actually use the uconnect you'll learn how badly it works.
Go anything aftermarket for easily 1/2 the price and it will all work as it should.
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I'm partial to Pioneer. I have a 2300Nex. AA and Carplay.
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Never seen an aftermarket that has as well illuminated sensible controls for ease of use as res or req

Dealer charge varies but expect at lest $50

As for quality of hands free uconnect even the early 2004-2007 pci version used in minivans works great in my 98 TJ with a REV radio
Voice control dialing works fine too and number prominently displayed on radio

The early can bus unit I Put in my Miata with a RAQ radio also works great

Of course for both used uconnect mirror and for the can bus needed to wire in a pt cruiser cluster Mack on trunk to supply the can bus hub

Both oem uconnect work much better than the aftermarket hands free radio from crutchfield in the Subaru


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Best Hands Free Option in a Jeep

Turn phone off and put it in the glove box.
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Radio UCONNECT upgrade..
I have a base radio in my 2014 JK , and I have a RES radio with the phone button that I can put in, no NAV. I have a UCONNECT module.
I need the connector and the mike, then programming.
Can anyone guide me to a the wiring harness for the Uconnect and a mike so I can use the radio and module that I have?
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This should help

Go to this site

http://connectors.dcctools.com/home.htm

Put in year and vehicle
Then search for hands free and search for radio

The 10 pin on radio and 22 pin on hands free have the pinouts


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I just went through this exercise a year ago. It's going to cost you a small fortune to upgrade your radio to nav. The entire situation is problematic. Once you install your new head unit, you'll discover just how badly the stock speakers suck- the OEM head unit is programmed to compensate for the inadequacies of the factory speakers. You won't be able to tune your system with aftermarket head and stock speakers. Fortunately, you can get decent speakers for pretty cheap. Some of the aftermarket head units work with Maestro, so you can still use your steering wheel buttons. While I was at it, I sprung for a small Kenwood subwoofer that fit under my drivers seat and an Alpine amp that I stuffed under my glove box. The sound is fantastic! And it was still cheaper than doing to upgrade factory conversion.
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He just wants to add uconnect to the res radio
He needs the uconnect module from a high speed can bus vehicle
A rear view mirror with microphones from any Chrysler dodge Jeep vehicle
Wire it together
Get dealer activation


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Just bought a 2010 jeep wrangler and i can't use my phone hands free. Can i replace the radio with a factory one with navigation? Is it just plug and play?It's been awhile since i did any stereo work on cars.
A friend gave me a Jeep MyGig head with Nav when she upgraded hers to some ginormous expensive Alpine stereo / nav thing. All I did was pull out my old stock radio unit, plug in the MyGig head, position the GPS antenna that came with it (that took some trial & error) and calibrate the Nav using the on board instructions. Called Sirius and swapped over the Sat radio and done.

Now, all that said, the MyGig head sucks to use as a radio and the Nav isn't as good as the cheapo Garmin unit I had mounted on a Ram Mount. If I had to do it again I'd just stick with what I had. Sucky factory Nav is not unusual in the auto industry. The little Garmin units work better, are more flexible, easier to update and have trail info you can add very simply via chip. I was astounded to know Jeep never produced trail maps for the Nav in their vehicles, nor did they make it available to the aftermarket.
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I have one for sale that I took out of my Jeep ,
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Like others on here, I HIGHLY recommend an aftermarket one. It can be a PITA, but it's completely worth it. Skip the standalone navigation and get something with Android auto or apple carplay; you will save a lot of money and you will still have nav as long as your phone is attached. It will probably work better too. Here's a few tips from when I did mine:

- if you get Android auto, get one with a wireless phone connection. It will cost more but the USB cord is a pain and you will probably have to replace it a lot. Also usb-c doesn't hold very well so if you move the phone it will disconnect. I have the wired one and I hate it so much that I plan to replace it this Xmas

- like others have said, crutchfield is your friend. Even if you don't buy from them, they are the best place to start research. Pioneer and Kenwood both make excellent units and they update the software often crutchfield has open box and refurbished units that are also comparatively cheap.

- you will most likely have to cut some plastic directly above the radio, and remove a metal bracket. The plastic is easily cut with a Dremel but a sharp knife works too. The bracket does come out but you have to partially pull out one side( I think the left?), twist it, and then pull the rest out. It's like a puzzle but I swear it comes out without cutting or bending.

- don't use butt connectors or solder for wiring. Use posi-lock connectors. They're easy and fast and they stay very tight. I use them all over the Jeep.

- if you're looking for better sound, consider a subwoofer. There are a lot of options and even a weak one will make a dramatic difference. I fit a 150w sub under my passenger seat and it's amazing.

- make sure you give yourself enough time to complete the project. You can do it without experience but it will take all day and the Jeep will be undrivable while you are switching out the head units. Don't make any plans for the day you want to work on it

Good luck! If you need help or advice feel free to ask here or PM me.
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OP - if you are just after the U-Connect, that is fairly easy to do from the comments. You will also need the steering wheel buttons (left side spoke). If you want Nav as well, believe me, go after market. The charge for updating the maps is about $160. It is a PITA, so much so I traded my 2015 before I did it and have not even considered it on my 2017. There are also issues with some 430Ns that flake out and you get a dreaded hanging at "Guidance by Garmin" message. No matter how long you wait, it won't go past it. Sometimes you can reset.

My 2015 did that to me once while on a trip and in an unfamiliar town. I got totally lost. Stopped at a convenience store to get directions back to my motel. Came out started the Jeep and the nav came right up. Never trusted it again. I travel with my 9 year old Garmin 1390LMT in the center console. It has free quarterly map updates and has never failed me. When at home it stays in the TJ until I take a trip with the JKU.
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INSANE Audio. JK2001 model. Has off road GPS too. Can get a backup camera and a front rock cam. If you buy it at a show most of the time the show package has the cameras with it. Yes plug and play but very easy to set up. If you need it they have lifetime support and they are very fast at getting back and helping you through it.
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I have 2 of them. A JK1001 in my 2007 and a JK2001 in my 2012. Work great. I'm not a computer guru by a long shot so try to understand I don't know anything. I've downloaded NETFLIX and Pandora and stuff like that. I have an Android phone.

Just my opinion though.
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I just went through this exercise a year ago. It's going to cost you a small fortune to upgrade your radio to nav. The entire situation is problematic. Once you install your new head unit, you'll discover just how badly the stock speakers suck- the OEM head unit is programmed to compensate for the inadequacies of the factory speakers. You won't be able to tune your system with aftermarket head and stock speakers. Fortunately, you can get decent speakers for pretty cheap. Some of the aftermarket head units work with Maestro, so you can still use your steering wheel buttons. While I was at it, I sprung for a small Kenwood subwoofer that fit under my drivers seat and an Alpine amp that I stuffed under my glove box. The sound is fantastic! And it was still cheaper than doing to upgrade factory conversion.

You DO NOT NEED a Maestro to use steering wheel controls.
There are several smart harnesses that work perfectly fine with Maestro and non-Maestro compatible Decks at a fraction of the cost and zero programing headaches.
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Just go aftermarket with Android or Apple Car Play. It’ll use the GPS on your phone. Bada bing, bada bang.
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You DO NOT NEED a Maestro to use steering wheel controls.
There are several smart harnesses that work perfectly fine with Maestro and non-Maestro compatible Decks at a fraction of the cost and zero programing headaches.

No sense spending money on crappy can bus adapters if you get a maestro compatible head unit. Unlike the lesser adapters you can display engine data as well as tire pressure with maestro. It's well worth the increase in price. The tire pressure display is additionally nice because it continues to work even if you turn the jeep's tire pressure display off to kill the false alarms.
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Crutchfield is your friend.. Cost was much less than I was anticipating to replace the head unit in my wife's Expedition, and they were spot on with advice and recommendations. FWIW the Kenwood I used is still going strong, and improved the sound from stock.

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I have wondered about upgrading since my 11 JKUR has the base model of radio w/Sirius. My wife wishes I had Bluetooth but I try not to use my cell phone since I try to use it only for emergency calls. As far as the quality of speakers, I just play my old CD's or listen to the music in the air. One of these days I may need new ones, but not having them means I only need to listen to my DW when we are in the same room.

IF I upgrade the radio, I know now to go the secondary market. I have on 08 Dodge Ram with the Nav system and it is a PITA to use. The cost of upgrades means I never upgrade it, so I just use my cell phone or my GPS unit. The portable models are much easier to use and I can upgrade the maps with no cost. I have a small tablet so I can install all the updates I need and carry it with me. Members of my 4x4 club use tablets with all the trails in the southern half of NM posted into the files. We have plenty of trails marked, so we just need to avoid getting lost (always carry a hand-held magnetic compass so you can find your way home when the power is gone).
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