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Old 02-19-2019, 09:43 AM
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Rhino Line or just sand and spray front bumper ?

This is probably beating a dead horse but I could not find an answer on here.

Iíve had this before offbrand steel bumper for about 2 1/2 years now and over the past month it started to chip and rust. I can only sum it up to a cheap powder coat.

When it happened in the Fall I just sanded the spot down and hit it with a Hammered Blk spray paint. I really donít care of the aesthetics but I do care about the steel. Iíll include pictures of the first rust spot then the one I found yesterday. I will probably wait for the New England winter to be over but Iíd like to set cash aside if I need to. Thanks !








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I like to use Rustoleum bed liner spray on my bumpers and side rails. Goes on nice and holds up well if the bumper is cleaned well before hand. That's the easy fix. Or, you can take it off and take it in to be re-powder coated. I have a good powder coater locally that has reasonable prices so that would be my option.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:20 PM
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Thanks. Taking it off would be a pain. Rust and red loctite. *challenge accepted. * rofl.

Iíll just spray with bedliner and decide once the weather breaks.


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I had a bumper rhino lined and it held up well and looked good.
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I like to use Rustoleum bed liner spray on my bumpers and side rails. Goes on nice and holds up well if the bumper is cleaned well before hand. That's the easy fix. Or, you can take it off and take it in to be re-powder coated. I have a good powder coater locally that has reasonable prices so that would be my option.


Is rust oleum the choice here on the forum? My family owns a hardware store here and Iím familiar with Rustoleum but not their bedliner.


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I had a bumper rhino lined and it held up well and looked good.


I bet. The problem is the local shop I called only does truck beds. But on the RL site they list the shop as a Tuffcoat dealer. Which must mean bedliner.


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I have this in stock. I might have their bed liner too, but Iím home now Lol.

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I use rustoleum too, but always opt for the ďprofessional gradeĒ rattle can, which I guess is a bit of an oxymoron. It has a more even and high-flow output, and the can sprays better off-angle, so its easy to touch up scratches and rust spots without removing parts.
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Is rust oleum the choice here on the forum? My family owns a hardware store here and Iím familiar with Rustoleum but not their bedliner.
I have used it in several places on other vehicles also. I got tired of having to keep repainting the lower spoiler on my Camaro, so I just masked it off and painted it with the bedliner. Held up a lot better and was way easier to touch up if it got scraped on something. Same with Jeep bumpers. Works good and is quick and easy to touch up when you need to.
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I plan on using monstaliner.com. I dig the results from my hardtop project and opting to do my front and rock rails this summer. It adheres real well and you just roll it on.
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Thanks guys.

I ordered a quart of Herculiner because it seems to be pretty decent. Iíll roll it on , 3-4 coats, once the weather gets warmah. I might use that RO undercoat on my rock sliders though.


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Another suggestion is UPOL Raptor bed liner if you want to go DIY with more professional looking results. You can buy kits for around $100 on Amazon that include the spray gun. Very easy to use and the results were fantastic on a 1971 Bronco tub that I sprayed.

Currently, both my AEV bumpers are coated in Rustoleum bed liner because the previous owner damaged the powder coat. The bumpers look pretty good for a rattle can paint job.
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I had the same bumper and after one NY winter it got very scruffy. I sanded it and repainted it with rustoleum and it rusted again. Replaced it with a Smittybilt and it seems to be holding up better. You could go with the Rhino or look into powder coating. I have had two sets of wheels done up and they are on their third winter and no corrosion or abrasion of the powder coat.
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I have the same bumper. The powder coat has peeled off around the d-rings and corners where I run into rocks and parking structures. I generally clean up the area that's rusting with a wire wheel, sand paper, scotch brites, acetone, and then I prime it with auto primer and paint with enamel. I sometimes use Rustoleum appliance epoxy which requires no primer. I already have to wire clean, prime, and paint the skids and control arms every couple years. It's no big deal to me. It's not the prettiest, but if I'm going to bounce off of stuff it's not going to be perfect.
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I ordered a quart of Herculiner because it seems to be pretty decent. Iíll roll it on , 3-4 coats, once the weather gets warmah. I might use that RO undercoat on my rock sliders though.
What I was going to suggest

In my TJ, I did the interior in two steps. Cargo bed first, waited a few weeks, the removed the front two seats and did the front. Went up about 6" from the sides. Sanded the paint, washed with acetone, then applied

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Herculiner worked great on my front bumper, very durable. It did fade with time from the sun so I sprayed some Rustoleum bedliner on top that had better UV properties. I think its a great combo
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I also forgot to ask.

Once I sand the bumper down to the steel, should I use flat blk primer before the Herculiner? I'm familiar with painting steel but I've never used bedliner before.
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Rhino Line or just sand and spray front bumper ?

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In my TJ, I did the interior in two steps. Cargo bed first, waited a few weeks, the removed the front two seats and did the front. Went up about 6" from the sides. Sanded the paint, washed with acetone, then applied



Stuff stinks forever, but is bullet proof


What stinks, RO or the Herculiner?



So the weather is slowly breaking so I'll start removing the rust soon with a rust stripper drill bit.



I wish I could just remove the bumper but red loctite and rusted nuts, yeah, NOPE. No more.






Hopefully the quart is enough but we'll see. Thanks for the replies everyone. It's just a bumper, as I keep telling myself. It's going to get hit and rusted. But that shitty powder coat is clawing me at the back of my mind.



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The driver side held up fine ... rofl

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I also forgot to ask.

Once I sand the bumper down to the steel, should I use flat blk primer before the Herculiner? I'm familiar with painting steel but I've never used bedliner before.
Yes on the primer.
Black, gray whatever you have.
Best to get some primer on bare metal before painting.
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Had a bad experience with Herculiner. Prepped everything to a tee on my 08’ Tundra bed, then the fading and peeling started about 2 months later. Not a good product in my opinion and you will see it fade when you run through the car wash after a couple of times.
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Didn't have problem with the Herculiner peeling with a good prep, I just sanded the crap out of the powdercoat, used metalprep to get it good and clean, and applied it. It did fade after awhile, I think due to UV, but a spray coat of rustoleum bedliner on top keeps it from getting dull.
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Didn't have problem with the Herculiner peeling with a good prep, I just sanded the crap out of the powdercoat, used metalprep to get it good and clean, and applied it. It did fade after awhile, I think due to UV, but a spray coat of rustoleum bedliner on top keeps it from getting dull.


Spray bedliner after itís cured or whenever you start seeing it fade ?


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After I saw it starting to fade, still holding up after a couple years
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And a quart is more than enough for bumper and I did a front skid plate
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This is probably beating a dead horse but I could not find an answer on here.

Iíve had this before offbrand steel bumper for about 2 1/2 years now and over the past month it started to chip and rust. I can only sum it up to a cheap powder coat.

When it happened in the Fall I just sanded the spot down and hit it with a Hammered Blk spray paint. I really donít care of the aesthetics but I do care about the steel. Iíll include pictures of the first rust spot then the one I found yesterday. I will probably wait for the New England winter to be over but Iíd like to set cash aside if I need to. Thanks !








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Remove it, strip it, and Rhino Line it!!!!
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Remove it, strip it, and Rhino Line it!!!!


I would. That would suck though. Plus Iíd be without a bumper for a few days.


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Update.

So I took the bumper off today at work just before it started raining. I only needed a breaker bar (shocked).

I couldnít get that shitty powder coat off with anything I had in stock. My rust remover drill attachment scuffed it up enough where Iíd feel comfortable priming it then lining it with Herculiner which I bought.

I would have it media blasted but I canít find anyone local. My dadsí friends who did it have passed on or just retired.

For a $200 bumper, I really donít care either. I care enough to remove the horrible coating and get rid of the rust thatís been an eyesore for me.

So , what would you do?

Taking that bumper off alone isnít too hard but Iím feeling it now. Awkward + heavy. Pics before and after I sanded the hell out of it for about an hour.










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Hope the Herculiner works better than Rustoleum bedliner. I had the same bumper and one NY winter was tough on it. Redid it with Rustoleum and it looked good until the following winter.
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Hope the Herculiner works better than Rustoleum bedliner. I had the same bumper and one NY winter was tough on it. Redid it with Rustoleum and it looked good until the following winter.

I have the same bumper. Same issues. Crappy finish, but then what should one expect from a $200 bumper.


I just wire brushed and rustoleum painted. It'll probably rust again soon though. I noticed a lot of tiny pock holes in most of the welds (amateur welding). You can't get a finish into them so they generate rust which starts flaking the rest of the finish off.


When I get tired of the repainting every year I'll start looking at aluminum bumpers I guess.

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