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Old 02-23-2016, 10:26 PM
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Rockers That Attach to Tub

Sorry for another rock slider post. Trying to make a decision and looking at many different options. I want to keep it as light as possible. Jeep is a 2015 JKUR.

I'm looking at the Nemesis Billy Rockers and Poison Spyder Brawler Rockers. For those that have these or similar, what kind of issues would I expect to the paint with the piece that mounts on the side of the tub (tub armor)? Is there going to be some kind of wear that has to be addressed over time i.e. rust from paint being rubbed off? I saw how Teraflex uses a rubber strip between theirs and I really don't like that. Any other issues, pros, cons, etc.?

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I've been looking at them for awhile now myself. I like both the Nemesis and PS also....still have to decide between steel or aluminum. I plan on using a spray on 3M rubber undercoat on the backside of the the tub plate if I go this way.
Dissimilar metal corrosion is definitely something to think about if your going aluminum.

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Sorry for another rock slider post. Trying to make a decision and looking at many different options. I want to keep it as light as possible. Jeep is a 2015 JKUR.

I'm looking at the Nemesis Billy Rockers and Poison Spyder Brawler Rockers. For those that have these or similar, what kind of issues would I expect to the paint with the piece that mounts on the side of the tub (tub armor)? Is there going to be some kind of wear that has to be addressed over time i.e. rust from paint being rubbed off? I saw how Teraflex uses a rubber strip between theirs and I really don't like that. Any other issues, pros, cons, etc.?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Hey. I have the Teraflex. I honestly don't believe the intent could have possibly been for that rubber crap (it's crappy rubber) to prevent paint damage. Reason being...if it's screwed in tight to the nutserts, it's solidly firm enough not to move at all. I'm just guessing, but I think that's mostly there to keep stuff from going down into the main cavity from the top.

The sliders are great and solid (have had them on for several months now). I also like the others you mentioned, they all look good (that made it hard for me to decide lol).

I'd be super-careful on anything using nutserts for tub armor to silicone the nutserts, especially if I lived in a state where heavy road-salt is used. Maybe even consider putting a thin coat of bedliner just where the armor will contact the body panel.
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I've been looking at them for awhile now myself. I like both the Nemesis and PS also....still have to decide between steel or aluminum. I plan on using a spray on 3M rubber undercoat on the backside of the the tub plate if I go this way.
Dissimilar metal corrosion is definitely something to think about if your going aluminum.
The aluminum is hard to beat in terms of weight savings. That put it over the top for me when I chose.
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Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.

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I've been looking at them for awhile now myself. I like both the Nemesis and PS also....still have to decide between steel or aluminum. I plan on using a spray on 3M rubber undercoat on the backside of the the tub plate if I go this way.
Dissimilar metal corrosion is definitely something to think about if your going aluminum.
I've heard that should be a concern. Hopefully the rubber undercoat you've mentioned would take care of that.

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The aluminum is hard to beat in terms of weight savings. That put it over the top for me when I chose.
The aluminum option is why I'm considering the above. If Rock Hard made theirs as light weight I'd have already pulled the trigger. Still might. The thought of putting those nutserts through the tub makes me cringe, especially if something corrodes and I have to remove it all at some point.

Yup, I have a tendency to over-analyze.
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I've heard that should be a concern. Hopefully the rubber undercoat you've mentioned would take care of that.



The aluminum option is why I'm considering the above. If Rock Hard made theirs as light weight I'd have already pulled the trigger. Still might. The thought of putting those nutserts through the tub makes me cringe, especially if something corrodes and I have to remove it all at some point.

Yup, I have a tendency to over-analyze.
It'll be fine. Just use a generous daub of silicone on each nutsert right before you insert it

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Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated. I've heard that should be a concern. Hopefully the rubber undercoat you've mentioned would take care of that. The aluminum option is why I'm considering the above. If Rock Hard made theirs as light weight I'd have already pulled the trigger. Still might. The thought of putting those nutserts through the tub makes me cringe, especially if something corrodes and I have to remove it all at some point. Yup, I have a tendency to over-analyze.
Ha ha, you gotta commit to poke all those holes in your tub that's for sure !
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Anybody see the new RR boatsides? Ive never seen a body mounted slider like PS's mount to the same locations the stock rails mount, and not the body itself. Interesting to say the least.
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Anybody see the new RR boatsides? Ive never seen a body mounted slider like PS's mount to the same locations the stock rails mount, and not the body itself. Interesting to say the least.
Thanks! I haven't seen those. I do love the Rock Hard boatsides, if they weren't so heavy. I'm not sure how I feel about these. They look like they aren't as sturdy as the PS with basically the same drawback(?) of mounting against the tub, but minus the nutserts at least.
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Anybody see the new RR boatsides? Ive never seen a body mounted slider like PS's mount to the same locations the stock rails mount, and not the body itself. Interesting to say the least.
They look really slick installed almost OEM
Quality like most RR products.
I'm not so sure you wouldn't have some serious chaffing between the tub and the rocker plate though.....that's if their mounted to the frame.
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They look really slick installed almost OEM Quality like most RR products. I'm not so sure you wouldn't have some serious chaffing between the tub and the rocker plate though.....that's if their mounted to the frame.
Theres a rubber insulator i believe.
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Theres a rubber insulator i believe.
That would make sense.....I've always wondered if the boat side type sliders that attach to the tub and frame side of the body mounts would cause vibration transmissions especially during full flex since your essentially rigidly tying the the tub to the frame.
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That would make sense.....I've always wondered if the boat side type sliders that attach to the tub and frame side of the body mounts would cause vibration transmissions especially during full flex since your essentially rigidly tying the the tub to the frame.
The PSC sliders are a very solid no vibration or flex once installed no rash on tub. I'm talking the PSC Brawler Rockers boat side sliders. Now the PSC Rocker nockers had a reputation of flexing into tub do not know if they addressed that. I am super impressed with the Brawler Rockers in aluminum and they have faired well on the rocks
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The PSC sliders are a very solid no vibration or flex once installed no rash on tub. I'm talking the PSC Brawler Rockers boat side sliders. Now the PSC Rocker nockers had a reputation of flexing into tub do not know if they addressed that. I am super impressed with the Brawler Rockers in aluminum and they have faired well on the rocks
Thanks Smokinjoe. This is what I wanted to know- can they be trusted not to do damage to the tub. These type of sliders seem to be a lifetime mod (or very expensive mistake), so I want to do it right and not have to worry about damage down the road. Or at least until it's beat up enough to not care as much anymore, and then they become removeable if wanted.
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Thanks Smokinjoe. This is what I wanted to know- can they be trusted not to do damage to the tub. These type of sliders seem to be a lifetime mod (or very expensive mistake), so I want to do it right and not have to worry about damage down the road. Or at least until it's beat up enough to not care as much anymore, and then they become removeable if wanted.
Although a different brand, that was a concern of mine as well. But...you can simply get another set and just screw them right on. All the drilling and nutserting is already handled.
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It would be a very very long time before you would need to replace PSC Brawler Rockers Maybe never

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