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Old 09-13-2018, 08:45 AM
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Steering chatter noise on turns

I have searched the forums and all under the dash - there is a "chattering" noise coming from somewhere behind the driver side of the dash when turning (left or right) - it seems like it is somehow steering related but I can't replicate the sound trying to move the wheel/column myself, it only happens when driving and going around a corner. Suggestions?

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Old 09-13-2018, 02:34 PM   #2
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Shouldn't make a chattering sound. My gut says axle shaft ujoints or steering box. (assuming you don't have an automatic locker in the front) But it could be something else.

Need some more info. Year, model, mileage, tire size, any modifications? How long have you had it? Does it ever go offroad? Does it happen on every turn or only really sharp ones?

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There's this thread which speak of some clicking when turning. Not sure if this is what you're experience but some of the replies may help perhaps?

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/c...t-2330371.html
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Sorry for not including deets on the JK; 2009 JK with 112k miles. 3" lift with 33s. I have had the vehicle for about 3 years and it does some offroad, but nothing extreme. The sound happens on every turn - and definitely is coming from the area between the steering wheel and the firewall. Almost sounds like a chipmunk chattering.
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Sorry for not including deets on the JK; 2009 JK with 112k miles. 3" lift with 33s. I have had the vehicle for about 3 years and it does some offroad, but nothing extreme. The sound happens on every turn - and definitely is coming from the area between the steering wheel and the firewall. Almost sounds like a chipmunk chattering.
Just to clarify, it only clicks while moving? Not while parked with the jeep running?
Do you feel a vibration from the wheel? If so is it very soft or quite violent? Scale of one 1-10. 1 being electric tooth brush 10 being highway rumble strip.
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Just to clarify, it only clicks while moving? Only while turning/moving - not a clicking noise, more squeak-chatter.

Not while parked with the jeep running? Jeep is moving, not parked.

Do you feel a vibration from the wheel? No wheel vibration.

It's almost as if there is some kind of rubber on metal sound is going on - have tried to hit steering column behind dash with WD40 with no change.
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Another question:



Does the sound occur when you are turning the steering wheel, or once the steering wheel is turned & no longer rotating it?
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Another question:



Does the sound occur when you are turning the steering wheel, or once the steering wheel is turned & no longer rotating it?
What would it be if the steering wheel is turned and no longer turning or after straightening out and no longer turning it makes a subtle rumble like highway strip noise? Any ideas?
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From a troubleshooting background, my process goes along the lines of:


Well, that eliminates issues in the steering column, so let's consider the things that are moving:

Wheels: Stone in tread, out of balance, out of round. Mostly vibration felt through floor &/or steering wheel

Unit bearing: whine or vibration when moving. (Mine would whine & vibrate when I was going around left corners, only. The front right was stuffed.)

Uni-joint: bad bearings. clicking noise when cornering, vibration.

Differential: chipped tooth on ring or pinion.

Drive shaft uni joints: noise, vibration.


Based on your description, a subtle rumble like highway strip noise, I'd guess at a unit bearing or uni joint, since it sounds like it is happening faster than once per rotation of the tyre.

There could also be steering component issues that add to it, but they mostly cause other symptoms:

Ball joints, tie rod ends, drag link, track bar: Vague steering, shimmies, potentially DW.


Start with the easy things first. Check for stones. Jack up front & check for movement in unit bearing. Or remove wheel & try moving it. This worked for mine, but it was well & truly fscked.) Put you hand around the uni joint & try turning the hub. If the bearings in it are going, you will feel movement between the yokes. (Yes, mine is going there as well...)

Next up are 2 person jobs, (or one & a camera). On the ground, get someone to sit in the drivers seat & (engine off), just wiggle the steering wheel left/right. Feel for movement in the drag link & track bar joints. With the front wheel jacked up but still on, use something as a lever under the tyre, (a spade or shovel works well), to move it up/down. Check for movement in unit bearing & ball joints.

That's just the sort of process I would use to start tracking it down.
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It doesn't make the noise when you just turn the steering wheel - it seems to be greater/louder depending on the severity of the turn. It is not speed or wheel/tire rotation related.

Something in the column - is there a strap/bracket/bushing right behind the dash?
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Based on that, it sounds like what I have had. A vibration when turning, worse on tight corners. That one was a front uni joint.


Jack up front & remove the wheel. Put you hand around the uni joint & try turning the hub. If the bearings in the uni are going, you will feel movement between the yokes.
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Maybe this will help...


The more severe (speed) the turn, the worse the noise.
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Could it just be suspension creak? Every so often I have to spray the sway bar bushes with INOX or the like, because they start squeaking all the time.


Are you feeling anything through the steering wheel when those creaks occur?


Have you checked the 4 bolts at the top of the A pillars? When they get a bit loose, the sport cage flexes & you can get noises a bit like that when the body flexes while turning. (When I got my JKU 2nd hand with 70,000km on it, 3 were loose & the 4th was missing. It had fallen into the dash & was found later when I was working in behind there, running some wires...)
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Another possibility. A while ago I had a sound like you describe. A creaky chatter when turning, sounded between steering wheel and firewall. It was some plastic piece inside the steering column somewhere had cracked and was hitting a bolt or something. My Jeep was newer so covered under bumper to bumper.

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